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T.S.A. Says Airport Security Officers Can Unionize
New York Times ^ | February 4, 2011 | ERIC LIPTON

Posted on 02/04/2011 11:59:49 AM PST by Second Amendment First

Seeking to end a debate that has brewed for nearly a decade, the director of the Transportation Security Administration announced on Friday that a union would be allowed to bargain over working conditions on behalf of the nation’s 45,000 airport security officers, although certain issues like pay will not be subject to negotiation.

The question of whether unions can negotiate on behalf of airport security workers has been a repeated topic of partisan debate on Capitol Hill, at times threatening to hold up major pieces of legislation or even the Senate confirmation of the agency’s director.

John S. Pistole, the former deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation who has served as head of the transportation agency since last June, announced Friday that he would used the power granted to him by Congress to authorize collective bargaining by airport security personnel on a limited set of topics, including rules governing who gets priorities for vacation time and shift assignments, how workplace transfers take place and how employees are recognized for commendable work. The negotiations will take place on a national level, not with state or local union affiliates.

The nation’s security officers are tentatively scheduled to vote in early March for one of two unions that have competed for the right to represent them, or not to have a union at all. But if they choose a union, they will not be able to turn to it to bargain on their behalf for such traditionally negotiated topics as pay, retirement benefits, job qualification rules, disciplinary standards or issues related to security procedures, like what security equipment they must use or when and where they are deployed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; dhs; tsa; tsapervs; union
BOHICA

The administration has to payback the unions for their support. Once in the door, the rules will gradually evolve until all aspects of compensation and work issues are covered.

1 posted on 02/04/2011 11:59:53 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

I guess we can expect more problems at the airport as well as more disasters.


2 posted on 02/04/2011 12:01:30 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Great, now that they’re free from worry over being fired they can really give the hinky a good yank.


3 posted on 02/04/2011 12:02:28 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Second Amendment First

And when they go on strike........?


4 posted on 02/04/2011 12:02:39 PM PST by paul in cape
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To: Second Amendment First

So....... da gropers will be in da union..... da union goes on strike.... da passengers can’t board da planes.

What could possibly go wrong?


5 posted on 02/04/2011 12:03:30 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Who didn’t see this s*** coming. The Barry regime is all about unions. The U.S. taxpayers get screwed over again.


6 posted on 02/04/2011 12:04:05 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare funds 16,000 new tax collectors but no new doctors. Now that's what I call "green" jobs.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I seem to remember when they first formed TSA and one of the big sticking points was unionization. They finally had to pass it without the unionization; but, now with Obama, they will simply do what the Congress decided not to do, by regulation instead of legislation.


7 posted on 02/04/2011 12:04:58 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Second Amendment First

W Bush’s creation of DHS-—the gift that keeps giving

here’s your handy “One-Stop Travelers’ Redress Process”

http://www.dhs.gov/files/programs/gc_1169673653081.shtm


8 posted on 02/04/2011 12:06:25 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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9 posted on 02/04/2011 12:07:16 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: skeeter

My Junk just became their Junk...


10 posted on 02/04/2011 12:07:45 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Second Amendment First

“unexpectedly”


11 posted on 02/04/2011 12:08:53 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 745 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Wow. A government created socialist voting bloc with police powers.

I'm sure the founders would OK with that.

12 posted on 02/04/2011 12:10:44 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (talk to the hand)
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To: Second Amendment First
And when MUSLIM TERRORISTs finally decide to show up the TSA for the incompetent reactionaries they truly are by handing a full-scale disaster to them right on their doorstep, we can rest assured that TSA will be protected through the 'collective bargaining' process. The traveling public? Well, that's just another story entirely.

If George W. ever ended up in Hell, it will be for creating DHS and TSA.

13 posted on 02/04/2011 12:10:52 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Second Amendment First
No doubt these folks will be getting automatic cost of living increases... don't be surprised in 20 years when there's newly retired TSA employees entitled to 6-figure/year pensions + free health care benies.

It will happen unless Congress and hopefully a conservative president in 2013 pushes back.

15 posted on 02/04/2011 12:14:00 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Second Amendment First

I always like to tell the story about a TSA “agent” I was talking to 30 days after 9/11. Two weeks earlier she was a hair stylist. They are, for the most part, typical government workers. Maybe they can transfer a bunch of postal workers to the TSA.


16 posted on 02/04/2011 12:19:28 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Second Amendment First

the Republicans need to put an end to these Federal Employees unionizing.They have No need for a union they are already protected by the civil service system.

The Next thing the Dem’s will try to unionize will be the military.


17 posted on 02/04/2011 12:34:54 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Second Amendment First
NEWSFLASH!: Foxes like hen houses!
18 posted on 02/04/2011 12:39:21 PM PST by The Duke
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“W Bush’s creation of DHS-—the gift that keeps giving”

Yep. But virtually all conservatives were OK with it at the time.

“If you are not doing anything wrong you will have nothing to be afraid of.”


19 posted on 02/04/2011 12:42:29 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Well, as they said right at the beginning of this whole thing, “If we want to professionalize, we must Federalize!”

Anyone who, back then, didn’t see this kind of thing in the cards was truly born yesterday, and is doubtless beyond all redemption.

CA....


20 posted on 02/04/2011 12:42:40 PM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: Second Amendment First

DEFUND THE TSA!


21 posted on 02/04/2011 12:43:05 PM PST by bvw
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To: Psalm 144

I knew the unionization push was coming from the time DHS was talked about being created...what better reason to grow gubbamint and great excuse to hide behind “it’s for the children” (like everything else is- “to keep us safe”)


22 posted on 02/04/2011 12:49:55 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: pointsal

Your daily pat down

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23 posted on 02/04/2011 12:51:08 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Second Amendment First
Oh For Flight's Sake...


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

24 posted on 02/04/2011 12:59:18 PM PST by The Comedian (It's 3am all over the planet, and nobody's been answering the phone since 2008.)
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To: The Comedian

Our FedGov is a joke where the punch line just keeps coming and it never gets to the funny bit.


25 posted on 02/04/2011 1:02:22 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: The Comedian

Thank God I will be taking a car everywhere I go from now on. Sorry, Europe, I can’t get to you by car.


26 posted on 02/04/2011 1:05:28 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
We could go half-n-half on a Stealth Hyper-sub. They'd never see us before it was too late.
27 posted on 02/04/2011 1:09:42 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Second Amendment First

Their new union will be called The muslim brohood


28 posted on 02/04/2011 1:10:05 PM PST by aces
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To: Second Amendment First

Not much chance of employees passing on this travesty.....


29 posted on 02/04/2011 1:12:15 PM PST by G Larry
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To: Dead Corpse
Stealth Hyper Subs don't do it for me.

I want the Uber Steath Ultra Wild OMG Hyper-Dyper Super Duper Mega Cool Sub.

30 posted on 02/04/2011 1:17:07 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Second Amendment First
. . . although certain issues like pay will not be subject to negotiation.

Oh, good, THAT's what I was worried about. Random and arbitrary harassment, threats to deny gate access, same sex child molestation, or the capture and distribution of revealing body scans. That stuff wasn't even on my radar.

31 posted on 02/04/2011 1:24:41 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Second Amendment First

Oh, ‘cause they’re not STANDIN’ AROUND WITH THEIR THUMBS UP THEIR BUTTS ENOUGH ALREADY?!?!?!?!

Sorry. Didn’t mean to yell.

Colonel, USAFR


32 posted on 02/04/2011 1:26:53 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Second Amendment First

Wonderful.

I was just thinking that we needed another lazy, overpaid government union. :)


33 posted on 02/04/2011 1:28:32 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Second Amendment First

So, they are going to be forced to join and pay dues to a union that is unable to negotiate pay raises for them?

Wow, I guess those TSA people really ARE that dumb!


34 posted on 02/04/2011 1:31:53 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jagusafr

“Oh, ‘cause they’re not STANDIN’ AROUND WITH THEIR THUMBS UP THEIR BUTTS ENOUGH ALREADY?!?!?!?!”

Look on the bright side ... now they can stand around with their thumbs up OUR butts.


35 posted on 02/04/2011 1:33:11 PM PST by jessduntno (When will we learn? Given enough ROP, they'll hang SOMEONE.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Another huge sector of our liberty dropped into the hands of worthless union goons. The only thing worse than the incompetent slugs in the TSA is a mob of TSA slugs wrapped in layers of union cronyism.

The first time these rats strike, We the People should club them right back into their holes.


36 posted on 02/04/2011 1:36:47 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Lazamataz
Fresh out of those.

How about an aircraft carrier?

37 posted on 02/04/2011 1:37:10 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: jessduntno

D’oh! Jeez, I hadn’t thought of that...


38 posted on 02/04/2011 1:45:01 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Gaffer

If George W. ever winds up in Hell, it will be for his blatant failure to secure our border with Mexico.


39 posted on 02/04/2011 2:46:07 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan......A Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: Psalm 144

Bush was the virus and Obama is the disease.


41 posted on 02/05/2011 8:08:07 AM PST by Luke21
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