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EDITORIAL: The next Mideast war--Obama policies are pushing volatile region to the brink
The Washington Times ^ | February 4, 2011 | Editorial

Posted on 02/04/2011 3:55:09 PM PST by jazusamo

The Obama administration is pressing a reset button to return the Middle East to the bad old days of open Arab-Israeli warfare. The White House is requiring participation of the Muslim Brotherhood in any prospective new Egyptian government, while the brothers themselves are telling their countrymen to “prepare for war.” The current crisis in Egypt and the Obama administration’s maladroit response are forcing strategists to consider conflict scenarios that had been mothballed since the 1970s.

The Camp David Accords have formed the bedrock of U.S. security policy in the Mideast region since they were signed in 1978. The strategic logic behind the accords was that no coalition of Arab states could have a chance of waging a successful conventional conflict against Israel without including powerful Egypt. Subtracting Cairo from the equation would mean no new Arab-Israeli wars.

The possibility now looms that Egypt could be back on the bad side of the ledger. Rather than reaching out to progressive, secular, Western-oriented dissident groups, who are more sympathetic to the United States and not virulently anti-Israel, President Obama is inexplicably placing his weight behind “important non-secular actors” such as the America-hating Muslim Brotherhood. A new government dominated by these Islamic extremists would almost certainly seek another round of conflict. The brothers have not only threatened war against Israel but also have a long term objective of “eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated...

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Mr. Obama is in over his head with this crisis and may end up helping dismantle the only positive and lasting achievement of Jimmy Carter’s administration. The Obama team could not have better orchestrated a looming existential crisis for Israel and the Mideast if they had tried.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: egypt; egyptcrisis; foreignpolicy; israel; middleeast; mubarak; muslimbrotherhood; obama
Obama is insane.
1 posted on 02/04/2011 3:55:13 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
"while the brothers themselves are telling their countrymen to “prepare for war.”"

Does the Egyptian military want to lose much of their inventory of hardware in a preemptive stike or block the MB?

2 posted on 02/04/2011 3:58:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: jazusamo

Interesting to see the Washington Times praising the Camp David Accords.


3 posted on 02/04/2011 4:01:32 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: jazusamo
The Obama team could not have better orchestrated a looming existential crisis for Israel and the Mideast if they had tried.

Who says they haven't been trying?

4 posted on 02/04/2011 4:02:25 PM PST by Argus
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To: Argus

Yes, Obama has be working long and hard at it.


5 posted on 02/04/2011 4:09:29 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Paladin2

Egypt is a tough country to defend and if they were to attack Israel, their air force would be destroyed in 24 hours and US allies would control the Suez, Alex within a week and Cairo in a week.


6 posted on 02/04/2011 4:09:31 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Paladin2

Obama needs a war to distract the masses.


7 posted on 02/04/2011 4:14:22 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: trumandogz

Yes, I was a little surprised too but it’s a good point.


8 posted on 02/04/2011 4:14:49 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: trumandogz

Then what would we do with it. It would be as bad as taking over Haiti.


9 posted on 02/04/2011 4:15:39 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: jazusamo

I hope Israel talks to Russia or China. They are no friends of the muzzies. Israel will get no help from this admin.


10 posted on 02/04/2011 4:16:38 PM PST by Pit1 (Fed/State government should only meet for max 6 months a year. AND TERM LIMIT.)
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To: jazusamo
"Obama is insane."

Maybe, but, alternatively, this may be just what Obama and his coreligionists want. Obama's long assault on the status of the US in the world, his diminishment of Western allies, and his tilting of the US toward the Muslim world, may be about to bear deadly fruit.

11 posted on 02/04/2011 4:19:23 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Pit1

You couldn’t be more right and what a shame, impeachment is in order but it won’t happen.


12 posted on 02/04/2011 4:20:10 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
I don't know what we'd do without Barry Hussein Obama forcing Islamofascists into power.


13 posted on 02/04/2011 4:21:33 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Only two things come from Texas and I see you're wearing an "I Heart Austin" t-shirt)
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To: screaminsunshine

Egypt is nothing like Haiti as they have a large professional class and industry.

And if it got really bad, you simply seize Alex and the Suez and let them fight among themselves in Cairo.

It would not be cheap nor pretty but as it is now, we throw them a couple billion a year.


14 posted on 02/04/2011 4:25:14 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: jazusamo
Obama is insane.

Yes. And, worse, he's way out of his depth.

15 posted on 02/04/2011 4:25:47 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Pit1

“I hope Israel talks to Russia or China. They are no friends of the muzzies. Israel will get no help from this admin.”

All Israel has to do is threaten Iran’s capacity to pull oil out of the ground and get in onto ships, and this is over.

If you think Iran can close the straights, imagine what Israel could do.


16 posted on 02/04/2011 4:28:20 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ( Happy Freeping New Year)
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To: trumandogz

Not with Obama as CIC.


17 posted on 02/04/2011 4:30:18 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: screaminsunshine

It is long-standing American policy and he would have no choice, but to defend Israel and control the Suez.

As it is now, it does not seem that he has a problem waging war.


18 posted on 02/04/2011 4:34:06 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: jazusamo
Obama is insane.

No, he's not. He wishes for the destruction of Israel. And he's doing everything he can to assure it.

As much as I'd prefer to think otherwise, this is not a "mistake" -- it's a carefully planned venture.

19 posted on 02/04/2011 4:46:51 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: screaminsunshine

“Obama needs a war to distract the masses.” In order to put his marxist regime in place and declare himself king.

There, fixed it.


20 posted on 02/04/2011 4:47:21 PM PST by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: r9etb

Yes, he is out of his depth on most every issue.


21 posted on 02/04/2011 4:56:49 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
The Obama team could not have better orchestrated a looming existential crisis for Israel and the Mideast if they had tried.

I've got news for the Washington Times -- they trying.

And they're getting what they wanted...

22 posted on 02/04/2011 4:57:26 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01
I agree it's a carefully planned venture that he desires to destruction of Israel, but he is insane as was a certain German leader last century.
23 posted on 02/04/2011 5:02:03 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

If Obama participated in fomenting these protests and the Egyptian military is in on regime change, there is no backing down. No backing down for the Egyptian military and no backing down for Obama. They can only go forward and continue to push Mubarack. They just tried to whack Mubarack’s new number two, who will otherwise track down every conspirator. Again, no backing down.


24 posted on 02/04/2011 5:22:34 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: jazusamo
We can argue about the definition of "insanity".

But it might be simply "evil".

25 posted on 02/04/2011 5:26:18 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: jazusamo

The Times must have fogotten that Obama was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize!/s


26 posted on 02/04/2011 5:30:25 PM PST by jch10 (Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war...)
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To: okie01
But it might be simply "evil".

I agree completely, well said.

27 posted on 02/04/2011 5:34:26 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

If Mubarack remains, the Egyptian VP (see below) will track down Obama’s cospirators, no matter what happens Obama and the Egyptian military can only now proceed to remove Mubarack.

Breaking News: Failed Assassination Attempt on Egyptian VP Kills Two Bodyguards
Fox News | Feb 4, 2011


28 posted on 02/04/2011 5:42:06 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

Yes, there’s a thread about the attempted assassinaton and a link to an interesting article about the new VP at post #5.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2668821/posts?page=5#5


29 posted on 02/04/2011 5:42:24 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Fitzy_888

LOL! We’re on the same track. :)


30 posted on 02/04/2011 5:43:57 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: trumandogz

I do not think Israel cares to have Cairo or Egypts other many problems.


31 posted on 02/04/2011 5:52:53 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: jazusamo
foreign policy, domestic policy, energy policy....you name it. The guy is completely incompetent and out of his league. Frickin community organizer turned president. What a joke.
32 posted on 02/04/2011 6:58:32 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: jazusamo
Obama is insane.

It's insane to suggest that Obama even has a policy on the Mideast other than to hope to ride the wave to wherever it takes him.

33 posted on 02/04/2011 7:03:16 PM PST by stevem
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To: jazusamo
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34 posted on 02/04/2011 10:11:51 PM PST by MtnMan101 (THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISUM IS THAT YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY)
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To: jazusamo
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35 posted on 02/04/2011 10:13:34 PM PST by MtnMan101 (THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISUM IS THAT YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY)
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To: Argus; jazusamo

“Who says they haven’t been trying?”
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Good question, I am just a backwoods boy from the middle of nowhere but I think by now it should be obvious to all that they are accomplishing exactly what they set out to accomplish.


36 posted on 02/05/2011 6:46:01 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: jazusamo

The original legal meaning of insane is to NOT be capable of distinguishing right from wrong and conforming one’s behavior accordingly. Do you consider him insane by that definition? I’m just asking, not trying to argue the point either way.

It certainly seems to me that Hitler fit that description.


37 posted on 02/05/2011 6:52:19 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Thanks jazusamo.
The White House is requiring participation of the Muslim Brotherhood in any prospective new Egyptian government, while the brothers themselves are telling their countrymen to "prepare for war."
Gee, I wonder why Zero would do such a thing? /s


38 posted on 02/05/2011 7:06:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: jazusamo
President Obama is inexplicably placing his weight behind “important non-secular actors” such as the America-hating Muslim Brotherhood.

It's perfectly explicable to anyone not wearing blinders as to the nature, psychology, and history (such as it is) of the Mystery-in-Chief.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

39 posted on 02/05/2011 8:01:04 AM PST by The Comedian (There are no unbiased media outlets. Journalists ARE combatants.)
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To: jazusamo
President Obama is inexplicably placing his weight behind...

'inexplicably'? Oh boy.

40 posted on 02/05/2011 8:06:17 AM PST by Crawdad
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To: RipSawyer
That's a fair question and being we can't get in his head we must go by his actions.

In the article linked below regarding the mess in the middle east some say he knows exactly what he's doing while others contend he's clueless. If indeed he does know exactly what he's doing I would call that insane because siding with the Muslim Brotherhood will be perilous to both us and Israel.

I personally think he's also insane if he doesn't have a clue because of his actions and the lives involved but I guess that wouldn't make him clinically insane.

Obama Well Knows What Chaos He Has Unleashed

41 posted on 02/05/2011 10:30:46 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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