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Al Gore’s snow job
Toronto Sun ^ | 2011-02-03 | Lorrie Goldstein

Posted on 02/04/2011 6:46:29 PM PST by Clive

Al Gore has whipped up another blizzard of controversy by arguing global warming — climate change, if you prefer — causes more snow.

Challenged by Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly to explain why southern New York (and, for that matter, large parts of North America and Europe) looks like “the tundra” this winter, Gore responded on his blog by quoting approvingly from a year-old column by the Chicago Tribune’s Clarence Page, commenting on last winter’s severe weather and heavy snowfall in parts of the United States.

To wit: “In fact, scientists have been warning for at least two decades that global warming could make snowstorms more severe. Snow has two simple ingredients: Cold and moisture. Warmer air collects moisture like a sponge until it hits a patch of cold air. When temperatures dip below freezing, a lot of moisture creates a lot of snow. A rise in global temperature can create all sorts of havoc, ranging from hotter dry spells to colder winters, along with increasingly violent storms, flooding, forest fires and loss of endangered species.”

The observation that higher temperatures can lead to more snow — and many other weather phenomena — is accurate.

Incorrect claims

But claiming one can determine whether any single weather event, or events — even over several seasons — are caused by global versus regional warming, cow farts versus car exhaust, or natural causes versus man-made ones, isn’t.

As for Gore, if, as he argues, climate scientists have predicted for decades that global warming would make “snowstorms more severe” and lead to “colder winters,” why was there no mention of this in his “documentary,” An Inconvenient Truth?

It portrayed global warming exclusively as a phenomenon of steadily rising temperatures, expanding deserts, retreating glaciers and deadly heat waves. (Ironically, severe cold has always posed the greater threat to human life.)

If climate scientists have long warned that global warming will lead to bigger snowstorms and colder winters, then Gore and his advisers clearly decided to sacrifice accuracy for the sake of dramatization — or, if you prefer, propaganda — in An Inconvenient Truth.

Perhaps they thought linking global warming to colder weather and more snow would confuse people.

The problem is when people now hear from Gore that virtually any weather phenomenon — cold snaps or heat waves, harsh or mild winters — is linked to global warming, many understandably become skeptical.

To be fair, O’Reilly’s premise — that one big snowstorm, or harsh winter, or a series of them, discredits the theory of man-made global warming, is inaccurate.

A common tactic employed by Fox News commentators and many Republicans, it comes from deliberately confusing weather with climate.

The real concern here is better explained by Page in the piece from which Gore selectively and approvingly quoted, perhaps without reading it to the end.

Healthy skepticism

To where Page wrote: “I don’t necessarily agree with all of the alarm that Gore has expressed on climate change. Nor do I disagree with all of the skeptics, who question how much climate change is caused by human activities … Public skepticism about climate change is healthy, if it is based on good scientific research.”

Page notes the real problem is that far too much of the debate about climate change today is based solely on people’s politics.

So true — on all sides.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: crazedsexpoodle; gorebullwarming; kook; manbearpig; manbearpoodle

1 posted on 02/04/2011 6:46:31 PM PST by Clive
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To: exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

Lorrie Goldstein ping.


2 posted on 02/04/2011 6:47:11 PM PST by Clive
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To: steelyourfaith

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3 posted on 02/04/2011 6:47:55 PM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

If we were having less snowfall and warmer weather, the Algorians would be attributing that to global warming too, and without the embarrassment that comes with claiming warmer temperatures means more snowfall. The bottom line is, no matter what the weather, to the Algorians it is caused by AGW.


4 posted on 02/04/2011 6:56:41 PM PST by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Clive

5 posted on 02/04/2011 7:02:19 PM PST by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: Clive

If we had some global warming.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUFTm6cJXM


6 posted on 02/04/2011 7:05:43 PM PST by tflabo
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To: Clive
arguing global warming — climate change, if you prefer — causes more snow.

If global cooling is happening right now, who would tell us?

7 posted on 02/04/2011 7:07:19 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Clive

Ah, the discredited sexual predator speaks!


8 posted on 02/04/2011 7:24:31 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: Clive

I have shoveled 250,000 pounds of global warming this winter out of my driveway. My car needs a periscope to back out into the street and safely get through intersections.


9 posted on 02/04/2011 7:26:52 PM PST by dancusa (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. W. Churchill)
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To: Clive

Around next Wed-Thur the upper and mid ms valley should be at or well below zero. Maybe Al can give us another tweet.


10 posted on 02/04/2011 7:28:06 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Clive

Wrong is right
Hot is cold
Down is up
Warming makes snow...

Al Gore is truly delusional, but he’s not alone.


11 posted on 02/04/2011 7:32:14 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Clive
As for Gore, if, as he argues ...

Algore (the Kook) doesn't 'argue' anything at all ... he pontificates, puts a finger in both ears, and then walks away singing "Laa-Laa-Laa-Laa-Laa" .....

Scary that this kook came to within a few hundred votes of becoming POTUS

12 posted on 02/04/2011 7:33:48 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Clive

January was a cold month globally, so there’s no way the bad snowstorms of the last few weeks can be linked to warming. See www.drroyspencer.com for the latest global temperature records.


13 posted on 02/04/2011 7:34:47 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Clive

Not only did Al Gore not make any mention of snow storms and cold waves in his movie he graphically showed that rising sea levels would soon inundate America’s coasts. However, Gore recently bought a seaside mansion in California. If you were a true believer in rising sea levels why would you buy a $9 million seaside mansion?


14 posted on 02/04/2011 7:36:31 PM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: eyedigress

Liberals are just plain stupid.


15 posted on 02/04/2011 7:37:47 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Clive
Now, Clarence Page is a renowned climate scientist.

Who knew?

16 posted on 02/04/2011 7:41:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Clive

Nice post. Thanks.


17 posted on 02/04/2011 7:43:55 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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To: Clive
Challenged by Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly to explain, - -snip - - Gore responded on his blog by quoting approvingly from a year-old column by the Chicago Tribune’s Clarence Page - -snip - -.

Never mind whether Mr. Page's sources might be credible or not (I'm not going to bother to try to look up Page's column), I think it's bizarre for Algore to cite Clarence Page as a reference for his (Gore's) junk science!

18 posted on 02/04/2011 7:47:05 PM PST by FairWitness (Everything is easy, once you've done it once)
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To: Clive
Even if we accept Gore's premise, what is the danger posed by Global Warming, errrr, "Climate Change"?

Before, they said the ice caps would melt, polar bears would drown, and anything with an elevation below Pike's Peak would be underwater.

If Global Warming, errrr, "Climate Change" causes MORE SNOW, then the ice caps and glaciers are safe and secure, and we don't have to worry about Manhattan being under water, at least until spring when the snow melts.
19 posted on 02/04/2011 8:03:11 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial. And Post-Partisan. Agent Of Hope And Change. EVER.)
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To: Clive

Snow is good. Makes it easier to track ManBearPig. His hoofprints stand out more.


20 posted on 02/04/2011 8:04:38 PM PST by hawkboy
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To: Clive; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
Thanx Clive !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

21 posted on 02/04/2011 8:08:46 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

More rain, snow and ice storms means global warming because snow is hot. No, wait. The rain, snow and ice cool the air and ground which means global cooling. But the carbon is a green house gas that makes it hot, but the heat makes it rain and snow and storm which makes it global cooling. But we have no global warming laws yet and it’s raining and snowing and ice storms which means it’s already cooling. So if we restrict carbon emissions now it will make global warming hotter - and - I... Error! ... Error! ... Does not compute! ... Does not compute! ... Help me - Will Robinson! ... Danger!

*head explodes


22 posted on 02/04/2011 8:25:31 PM PST by conservativeimage.com ("Uh, let me be clear. Uh." - President Barack Obama)
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To: Clive
A common tactic employed by Fox News commentators and many Republicans, it comes from deliberately confusing weather with climate.

Remember that in July.

23 posted on 02/04/2011 8:30:44 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Clive
Dear AL, next week the country will experience a major 4 day long Arctic Blast, according to GPS model forecasts. Almost the entire nation will have near Arctic temperatures next Thursday. Looks like a < -40 F is possible in the North Colorado Rocky Mountains. How is one entire week of Arctic temperature Blasts being caused by human generated CO2 ?

Video - If You Think This Week's Weather Was Bad, Wait Until Next Week

GPS Forecast + 108 Hours

We also have thousands currently without power in Brownsville due to freezing rain. How is that being caused by more human generated CO2 ?

24 posted on 02/04/2011 8:30:44 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Clive

After reading the article twice I am convinced Lorrie did not say anything worth reading.


25 posted on 02/04/2011 9:05:24 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Clive

I see a lot of Freepers mocking Al Bore as stupid.

He’s not.

This is a scam, one that’s paid off very handsomely for Al Bore. He’s just trying to keep the scam alive.

Now the idiot voters and those in the general populace who still believe in man caused global warming or climate change or whatever? They’re STUPID.


26 posted on 02/04/2011 9:21:28 PM PST by piytar (Obastard is a use of the term "bastard" in the literal sense -- Obama is hiding his daddy's identity)
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To: Our man in washington

“January was a cold month globally”

I can attest to that. I’ve lived in the Philippines for 4 years and this is without a doubt the coldest I’ve ever seen it here. This time of year is referred to as “cool and dry” season and usually it’s high 80s during the day and low 70s at night.

This past month, the night temps have been getting into the low 60s or even high 50s. Being from Minnesota, this doesn’t phase me, but many Filipinos are getting colds cause they don’t know how to deal with it.


27 posted on 02/04/2011 9:42:00 PM PST by lquist1
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To: Clive
POLARFLA
28 posted on 02/04/2011 10:16:21 PM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Clive

Latest Weather Channel headline:
GORE’S GLOBAL FLATULENCE NOW BLOWING SNOW!


29 posted on 02/04/2011 11:39:55 PM PST by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: Clive

NOW_HE’S_JUST_EMBARRASSING_HIMSELF_PING!


30 posted on 02/05/2011 1:29:05 AM PST by The Duke
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To: piytar; All
I see a lot of Freepers mocking Al Bore as stupid. He’s not. This is a scam, one that’s paid off very handsomely for Al Bore. He’s just trying to keep the scam alive.

Absolutely correct. Just like his scumbag father al sr did with a American communist (I think he was foreign born iirc) named Armand Hammer. Create a market (in this case, OIL) then exploit it.
31 posted on 02/05/2011 2:35:34 AM PST by notdownwidems (Vote Republican! We're 1/10 of 1% better than the other guys!)
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To: Clive

When the warmists first started blowing off about global warming more than two decades ago, none of them mentioned more snowstorms and cold snaps. In fact, they said the opposite; we’d be seeing less and less of them. They want it both ways.


32 posted on 02/05/2011 8:13:40 AM PST by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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