Singapore's Lee Kwan Yew: 'we can integrate all religions and races except Islam'

American Thinker ^ | 02/05/2011 | Thomas Lifson

[SeekAndFind]

Lee Kuan Yew ranks as one of the most successful statesmen of the 20th century, having led Singapore to independence, and built a thriving prosperous mini-state with a world class economy, out of an ethnically diverse population. He retired as the world's longest serving prime minister, and at 87 years of age, has little to lose in speaking his mind.

Thus, his candor in discussing the assimilation of Muslims is perhaps understandable, but stil startling in a world of political correctness and compulsory sensitivity to Muslims, who are never expected to reciprocate. Singapore has a substantial Muslim minority, mostly Malays but also some Indian Muslims. Throughout its history, Singapore has striven to keep ethnic tensions minimized among its diverse population (ethnic Chinese being the largest group [74%], followed by Malays[13%], Indians, and others -- including many westerners). At one point in the 1960s, Lee spearheaded a merger with majority-Muslim Malaysia, but it quickly fell apart.

Now, Lee has published a book on Singapore's future, and he is speaking his mind:

In the book, Mr Lee, when asked to assess the progress of multiracialism in Singapore, said: "I have to speak candidly to be of value, but I do not wish to offend the Muslim community.

"I think we were progressing very nicely until the surge of Islam came, and if you asked me for my observations, the other communities have easier integration - friends, intermarriages and so on, Indians with Chinese, Chinese with Indians - than Muslims. That's the result of the surge from the Arab states."

He added: "I would say today, we can integrate all religions and races except Islam."

He also said: "I think the Muslims socially do not cause any trouble, but they are distinct and separate."

Mr lee then went on to speak of how his own generation of politicians who worked with him had integrated well, including sitting down and eating together. He said: "But now, you go to schools with Malay and Chinese, there's a halal and non-halal segment and so too, the universities. And they tend to sit separately so as not to be contaminated. All that becomes a social divide."

He added that the result was a "veil" across peoples. Asked what Muslims in Singapore needed to do to integrate, he replied: "Be less strict on Islamic observances and say ‘Okay, I'll eat with you.'"

Hat tip: Andrew Bolt

[SeekAndFind]

I’m not sure what Prime Minister Lee exactly means by integration.

If by that, he means tolerance for each other’s religion ( by tolerance, I mean you believe the other person is wrong, but nevertheless, allow him the freedom to believe what he does ), then, Christianity has to be the most tolerant religion in the world.

I don’t see how Buddhism or Hinduism does not have that tolerant tradition as well.

If by integration, he simply refers to races ( i.e., an Indian marrying a Chinese ), Christians ought to have no problems with that as well ( as long as they share the same faith ).

But if by integration, he refers to intermarriage between people who have different religious beliefs, then I am afraid Lee does not understand the teachings of each particular religion.

Biblical Christianity does teach friendship with all people, but it frowns upon marriage with non-believers ( Being unequally yoked ).

So, the key is trying to understand what Lee meant when he refers to “integration”. He seems to mix racial and religious integration up in his statement.

[Quix]

1. LEE KWAN YEW has been a member of the globalist elite for a long time. He's not at all ignorant of their plans, schemes etc.

2. He may well be talking about

A) The Vatican Alice In Wonderland School Of Theology, Reality Mangling, Chronic Professional Blaming, Wailing and Whining Institute.

AND

B) The also very compromised watered down pretend 'Christian' groups of other labels.

.

CERTAINLY the globalists are keenly aware that

A) PENTECOSTALS
B) SOUTHERN BAPTISTS
C) CHARISMATICS OF ALL LABELS
D) CHRISTIANS WHO BELIEVE IN THE 2ND COMING OF CHRIST--PARTICULARLY IN OUR ERA

.

ARE NOT going to be amenable, compliant, cooperative, tolerant of the NEW WORLD ORDER's ONE WORLD RELIGION nor government.

Therefore, they have been slated for extermination.

Interestingly, they don't seem to have any problem at all with REPLACEMENTARIANS, PRETERISTS et al and likely even have hired many as their agents.

[Quix]

I don’t recall which of these links . . . one of them asserts that the globalists are going to totally exterminate all ISLAM.

I believe they will do it or come close but before then, they will use Islam to destroy as much of Christianity and Western culture as they can.

[Quix]

OOOPS FORGOT THE LINKS:

Walter Veith of AMAZING DISCOVERIES

http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/123/211-232K/

John Moore’s series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Ieca5utqo

I don’t recall which of these links . . . one of them asserts that the globalists are going to totally exterminate all ISLAM.

I believe they will do it or come close but before then, they will use Islam to destroy as much of Christianity and Western culture as they can.

[Islander7]

How does one integrate Buddha and hinduism into the saving grace of Christ alone???

He's talking about integrating into society, not combining religions. I had to read it twice to figure it out. Kinda confusing.

[Daveinyork]

Anyone who canes vandals for spray painting cars is OK by me.

[livius]

Who’s integrating them?

Christian doctrine has always said that God is knowable through reason, although the truths of Christianity are knowable only through revelation and faith. But Christianity has always accepted the virtuous pagan, that is, the person who never had Christianity preached to him or had it preached in such a way that he could not understand it, and instead relied on the flakes of truth in his own religion. It is up to us Christians to bring these people to the fullness of the truth.

My point is that Islam is entirely different. It is an Arab superiority cult that is actively hostile to Christianity.

[The Comedian]

one of them asserts that the globalists are going to totally exterminate all ISLAM.

In that case, sign me up for the Illuminati Infantry.

Let's get that first job done, then we can start fragging officers...

Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

[livius]

That’s right, the first problems did arise in places like Dearbonistan.

But now big problems are cropping up in New York and more local problems (installation of mega-mosques) are appearing even in places that have virtually no Muslims, such as rural areas in the South and Midwest. This is because Muslims, thanks to Obama, feel that they have been given the keys to the kingdom and it all belongs to them now.

[livius]

Thank you, St Peter! The vision that St Peter had in Joppa of the sheet being lowered with all the animals in it may sound a little off the wall to modern folk (”what God has made clean, you must not call profane”), but it did mean that faith and practice no longer revolved around taboo foods.

The bizarre thing is that Islam took the Jewish taboos and made them absolute foundations of its cult. But of course Islam still won’t acknowledge the roots of these taboos...

[Aevery_Freeman]

Thanks for that information - I need that kind of ammunition.

It is obviously antithetical for America to accept Muslims. Being an American means adherence to a belief set that includes, among other things, FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

Does it appear Muslims are willing to accept that belief set? I think not, they will never be true American citizens. No immigration of any Muslims. The Somali's here in Minnesota are a criminal pain in the A$$.

[investigateworld]

Thanks folks forget about the Masonic P2 Lodge in Italy.

[Aevery_Freeman]

As a money-saving idea, how about Mandatory Masturbatory Martyrdom?

[Quix]

I understand the sentiments.

However, I wouldn’t even hint at favoring one sub-atomic particle of the illuminati groups.

[Quix]

It would be great if you’d post a summary of your convictions on that.

[denydenydeny]

Lee Kwan Yew is on any serious list of the twentieth century’s greatest political figures along with Churchill, Thatcher, Reagan, Adenauer, etc.

[James C. Bennett]

The bizarre thing is that Islam took the Jewish taboos and made them absolute foundations of its cult. But of course Islam still won’t acknowledge the roots of these taboos...

They kind of acknowledge the Jews to be the "chosen people" but who later went astray. They even consider the Arabs to be the descendants of the other son of Abraham. Many back this up by claiming that the rituals were more or less observed even before Islam - such as circumcision.

Here's an online discussion on a Muslim board that reveals what they think of non-Muslims. It's disturbing, and frightening, considering how Muslims have been let into non-Muslim countries without giving even a fraction of a forethought on what a HUGE problem they are going to be, within these non-Muslim societies:

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Assalamu alaykum brothers and sisters

My understanding of Jihad is that it can be done for the following reasons:

1) defending yourself

2) help oppressed people and i think also helping an ally

3) spreading the rule of islamic sharia on earth. This is not the same as forcing our religion onto people, because this of course is forbidden.

The third option is a last resort, which muslims take only after they do the following:

1) Invite the non muslims to revert to islam. If they don't accept that then

2) Ask them to live under islamic rule as non muslim citizens of the islamic state ( with freedom of worship), they will of course have to pay jizya . If they dont accept that then

3)If all fails then wage war on them until you conquer them and implement sharia upon them. Once you have done this you must let them live in peace(and give them freedom of worship) under islamic rule. And of course as non muslim citizens they will have to pay the Jizya.

Note: i'm pretty sure the muslims are supposed to put a lot of effort into the first 2 options. If these 2 options are not accepted by the non muslims then war must be waged as the last resort. Also while the non muslims pay Jizya the muslims must pay zakat, so it is not unjust as the devious kuffar claim.



I used to believe that the 3rd type of Jihad was wrong. But as i studied the reason for it i came to accept it. Basically the reason for spreading islamic rule on the earth is for the benefit of the human race for the following reasons:

1) Laws of Allah(sharia) are based on wisdom and his justice, and therefore they are beneficial to mankind.

2) sharia law allows the muslims to enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, is there something wrong with this, of course not. This would create a pure society without the immorality and corruptness of the non muslim world. Such a society would be beneficial to mankind(Quran surah 3 verse 110)

3) Living in an islamic system will bring many of mankind into the fold of islam. For example when muslims ruled from spain to china many non muslims reverted to Islam out of their own free will. All these reverts in such a short span of time (within first 100 years of islam) would not have happened without this sort of jihad. Even honest non muslim historians admit that these people were not forced.

Also this type of Jihad is no different to what Allah himself does? think about it. I once said to a christian that "Your God also spreads his religion in a similar way to the muslims" . The christian couldn't reply because he knew i was telling the truth. If you need me to explain this further then just ask.

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Since no one has asked me to explain this, i'll do it anyway. God according to the christians, jews and muslims sends prophets to invite people to his religion. If the people accept, then great, but if the people don't accept and reject the messenger, then guess what happens?.Yes that's right God destroys them just like he destroyed all those other nations for rejecting his messengers. So basically christians, jews and muslims all believe God destroys nations for not accepting his prophets or religion, and for carrying on with their evil ways. This is very similar to what muslims do. Muslims first invite non muslims to convert to Islam or live under islamic rule, if the non muslims accept any of these options then that's great, but if they reject our proposals, then we conquer them and destroy the system they were living under and implement islamic sharia instead. These conquered non muslims will then live under islamic law in peace and security, with freedom of worship. Christians and jews should ask themselves, is this so different from what God has been doing for thousands of years, if they are honest they will say "no". Remember, the christians condemn the muslims by saying " your forcing your way of life onto people by force". They also say "your giving non muslims the ultimatum of either accepting your options or going to war, and this is wrong". Well then, if it is wrong what do the christians think of God. Do they think their God is wrong or immoral for giving the disbelievers (of the past) the ultimatum " accept my prophet or be destroyed".  . And also will they condemn their God for destroying all those nations that rejected God's message, of course they won't, but if muslims do anything similar to this they object and call it barbaric, violent and giving people horrible ultimatums  .

That's my view of this whole issue. It is a bit like the christians saying how barbaric the muslims are for stoning adulterers or cutting of the hands of thieves. There is a more harsher punishment than all this, and it is the punishment of God. God according to christians (and muslims) will burn disbelievers in hell for eternity, that's a lot more painfull than stoning or cutting hands, which of course is temporary. Will the christians now condemn God as truly barbaric. The christians don't seem to realise that by condemning muslims for such acts, they also inadvertently condemn their own God.

 

Last edited by Gajibur; 24-05-2007 at 04:29 PM.

 

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?22018-Surah-9-29-fight-those-who-dont-believe-until-they-pay-the-Jizya/page2&s=da826eb032820153c81ac6c2d0c5a1dc

[Quix]

Have you read any of Joel Rosenberg?

Or any of the converted Muslim books?

Or lived with a muslim as a roommate for over a year?

[investigateworld]

The NWO, which includes all the Bush Family, loves Chaos. What quicker way to bring that about than by bringing in Third World savages?

[James C. Bennett]

Books I have read, but I doubt there will be a day when I’ll have to live with a Muslim.