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Women in the Cairo Street Scenes: a Troubling Photo Essay
inn ^ | 2/6/11 | Prof. Phyllis Chesler

Posted on 02/06/2011 9:17:58 AM PST by Nachum

For days now, the mainstream and leftstream media have been telling us that the Muslim Brotherhood is not dangerous, not radically Islamist—but that even if they are Islamist that they are popular amongst the people. Western leftists view the Brothers as engaged in a Hamas-like form of soup kitchen social work/theocratic totalitarianism, but who nevertheless have earned the right to be democratically voted into power by the people. They have been invited to join the negotiations with Mubarak's regime.

Short-sightedly, they claim that if we are serious about standing for democracy and the vote, that we have no choice but to support what may turn out to be an even worse tyranny than that of Mubarak’s.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cairo; islam; oppression; scenes; street; women
A world gone mad
1 posted on 02/06/2011 9:18:01 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

excellent if chilling article.

What amazing me is one would think media of all groups would rush to point out how women are treated under sharia.
but not a peep by any USA or western media

That should disturb us all.
and no one mentions what sharia law dictates for homosexuals.

There are plenty of cries of hatred for any who think marriage is between and man and a woman
and now cries against sharia which calls for gays to be killed.
stunning really


2 posted on 02/06/2011 9:24:56 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: Nachum

Very telling indeed. We’re not heading in a good direction.


3 posted on 02/06/2011 9:25:38 AM PST by onona (Fullly aware that I may be totally)
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To: Nachum

The photo essay is excellent.


4 posted on 02/06/2011 9:26:13 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Nachum
Western leftists view the Brothers as engaged in a Hamas-like form of soup kitchen social work/theocratic totalitarianism, but who nevertheless have earned the right to be democratically voted into power by the people.

Sadly, we have to support the lesser evil here. Right now, that's Mubarak.

Unless: a figure emerges, who currently is firm and ruthless, but will eventually step aside for truly free elections in a couple of years. This figure probably would be Christian. Fat chance.

That figure has not emerged. Mubarak is the lesser of the evils, the devil you know.

5 posted on 02/06/2011 9:26:48 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: RWGinger
What amazing me is one would think media of all groups would rush to point out how women are treated under sharia.

The leftists who preach "tolerance" would have us tolerate those who DO-NOT-TOLERATE anything but strict Sharia based Islamic society.

And they think living with a truly tolerant Christian in their midst makes them uncomfortable?

They will not like an Islamified world.

Tolerance, reason, and true equality will be a thing of the past.

6 posted on 02/06/2011 9:31:38 AM PST by SteamShovel ("Does the noise in my head bother you?")
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To: Nachum

This will end the same a Russia did with the Bolshivicks (a radical minority) running things, and Iran did with Mullahs.


7 posted on 02/06/2011 9:32:42 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

I am not so sure that it will. The US is occupied in two wars and the only leverage they have is the threat of cutting off aid. Egypt is stalling for time. They are killing off fringe players. Israel supports Mubarak.

If Mubarak plays rope a dope for a while, Obama is going to be hampered by his reelection campaign and other crisis. I think he is in a very weak position.


8 posted on 02/06/2011 9:36:01 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: SandRat
Soon coming to Turkey. They'll be like Iran in a couple of years. It is kind of funny since over 50% of the population is considered secular. But the minority (30%+) is insisting on Turkey switching to Sharia.

I'm curious to see whether the Turkish Army steps in to prevent Sharia from being enacted or are they already corrupted by Islamists (just like Pakistan).

9 posted on 02/06/2011 9:37:19 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Nachum

saw this exact same thing in Iran..1979.


10 posted on 02/06/2011 9:39:28 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Nachum

Another reminder that freedom is not free...


11 posted on 02/06/2011 9:40:03 AM PST by alecqss
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To: Nachum

That’s one of the main reasons that Democrats picked Charlotte to host the convention in ‘12. As it stands right now, President Obama does not have a chance of winning a single Southern state and thus may lose the reelection narrowly (think of Gore’s defeat back in ‘00).


12 posted on 02/06/2011 9:40:09 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Nachum
Towards the end:

My reading of these photos suggests that Egyptian women have already been Islamified. Whether they have done so to please their loving (or abusive) families or a favorite mullah, whether it was peer pressure from girlhood on that did it; or whether it was the teachings of the Muslim Brotherhood being preached in every mosque, on every media channel, and in school that did it, the fact is:

It is done. Women are veiled. Such women—and their fathers, brothers, husbands, and sons, will vote for the Muslim Brotherhood to run their country.

She might have a point. It would be interesting to look through a more extensive set of pictures of the rallies to see if most of the women were indeed covered in Islamic garb.

13 posted on 02/06/2011 9:41:25 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: SteamShovel

Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing.


14 posted on 02/06/2011 9:45:05 AM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: SteamShovel

“They will not like an Islamified world.”

No they won’t but how can they not realize it NOW and report on it?
if all the western world’s media reported honestly on this it could perhaps slow sharia down in otherwise free countries.

If they are not reporting the truth because they are afraid of being targeted what on earth do they think would happen if muslims gain control?


15 posted on 02/06/2011 9:46:55 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: rrrod

A lot of the events that occurring in Egypt are the same that played out in Iran from August 1978 through April 1979. I just wonder how many mercenaries are there that are an active part of the demonstrations. Also, they are there to perform executions as necessary just like they did in Iran.


16 posted on 02/06/2011 9:48:34 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: Nachum
I think it will end poorly by the end of this year. The Muslim Brotherhood after Mubarack is out, will like the Bolsheviks overthrow the the majority (Menschavicks). Egypt will have lost everything.
17 posted on 02/06/2011 9:50:47 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Yardstick

Well, you gotta figure that even if they were not so inclined to don the full coverings; trying to go about your business while whacked out jihadies are roaming around ready to beat anyone or anything that tics them off; you might want to make yourself less of a target by wearing one anyway.

But I suspect such women out there are probably the exception, and not the rule.


18 posted on 02/06/2011 9:56:50 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Nachum
The US is occupied in two wars...

Not true. Don't buy the media line. We are engaged in ONE war against radical Islamists. In this war, we stand largely, though not entirely alone. And by "we" in this context, I mean Americans on the political Right.

19 posted on 02/06/2011 9:57:11 AM PST by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Just like in the Russian revolution. The radical Bolsheviks overthrew the elected majority secular-libitarian Menschavicks.


20 posted on 02/06/2011 9:58:06 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

My friend from Turkey — a Christian, lives here in California — says, “Turkey is NO PLACE for a Christian.” She thinks it is very bad there, only a matter of time til the Islamists take over.


21 posted on 02/06/2011 9:59:13 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: MinorityRepublican

IMHO, we are too myopically looking for the cause of this madness in typical objects of our worldly faith.

IMHO, while Obama might influence alot, he isn’t the AntiChrist, nor by any stretch any type of Messiah, and our adversaries don’t look up to him for authority or leadership.

He nevertheless is pursuing an agenda, which our adversaries complicitly condone, and may have been advancing far before Obama has manifest any cognizance of their preparation.

In the past, I perceived these players to be part of an n-party game with multiple groups playing, complicated by players changing groups without clear order. Additionally, very few players know much of what other players know, so many are simply either working at what’s right in their own minds, or seeking power plays within their own sphere of influence to advance their personal agendas.

Political parties at one time were organized and ordered, with their most powerful and prominent players rising to the top. There is a tendency for the layman to assume this is the power structure by which Obama came to power, but his behavior and that of other players in worldly structure manifest a differing order of the players and their groups.

Sometimes the simplest obvious answers are the truth, especially in a world where such incompetent arrogance reigns.

The angels must truly marvel.


22 posted on 02/06/2011 10:01:20 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Nachum

Dr. Chesler is absolutely right. When you see the relaxed, free looking women of the 1970s photos and compare them to the shrouded bags of laundry of the 2000’s, you can see how far Islamicization has progressed, particularly in the last few years. They will most certainly vote in the MB, and then there will be no escape.


23 posted on 02/06/2011 10:03:40 AM PST by livius
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To: Nachum

Islamist elections:

One man, one vote, one time. Once they’re in, no more open elections’ll be held.


24 posted on 02/06/2011 10:04:22 AM PST by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: AFreeBird

Yeah, that’s probably a good point too. I know a lady who was a leftist in Iran back in 1979. She was in the streets demonstrating against the Shah along with the Islamists. She said everything was fine at first, but that as it became clear that the Shah was going to fall, the Islamists started to feel their oats and started to demand that the leftist young women, who were thoroughly secular, cover themselves. She said it got pretty scary when they beat up some of the girls. So yeah, I could imagine there being a similar kind of pressure in Egypt to cover up.


25 posted on 02/06/2011 10:08:32 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
I see women in my area of Houston every day who are wearing Muslim type scarves. It makes me angry and I would like to jerk their scarves off and give the women a good talking to. “You dumb butt, resist this kind of treatment. You are in the USA, you don't have to do this” But, of course, I don't do anything but sneer at them.

My husband needed a home nurse a couple of years ago. She was a muslim about 30 years old, single, supporting her self and she wore a scarf completely covering her hair. I wanted to ask her why she did that, but I didn't so I am not about to confront a stranger on the street. The muslim nurse was as nice and kind and gentle as any I have ever met. She also was doctoring a man who was not her husband. Go figure.

26 posted on 02/06/2011 10:59:49 AM PST by Ditter
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To: NY Attitude

I was in Iran in 1978 and spent 6 years in Egypt. You are 100% correct.


27 posted on 02/06/2011 11:46:27 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Ditter
When I was in college a fully covered arabic woman came up to the place I worked on campus. I asked her why she wore that since she was in the USA and could were anything she liked. Her reply was, “When you believe in something, and believe that Allah has set rules down for you to live by you live by them. I wear it because I want to please Allah.”

I replied that it's a good thing that she is in a country that freedom of religion. She looked at me strangely and walked away.

28 posted on 02/06/2011 12:05:07 PM PST by armordog99
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To: Nachum
niqabgroupphoto

niqabschoolphoto

29 posted on 02/06/2011 1:28:34 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Yardstick

” My reading of these photos suggests that Egyptian women have already been Islamified. Whether they have done so to please their loving (or abusive) families or a favorite mullah, “
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Phyllis Chesler is always on top of this subject. Even the U.N.’s own statistics, show unusually high rates of FGM in Egypt... totally Islamified, in most of Egypt.

...Years from now, when our children ask why we didn’t do something to stop this, when it was still possible, no one can say because we didn’t know. ...Phyllis has been telling us for years...


30 posted on 02/06/2011 6:38:25 PM PST by Elendur
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To: Nachum; mountn man

thanks for posting. The key section I take away from her research is this paragraph:

“Fifty nine percent said they back Islamists. Only 27% said they back modernizers. Half of Egyptians support Hamas. Thirty percent support Hizbullah and 20% support al Qaida. Moreover, 95% of them would welcome Islamic influence over their politics….Eighty two percent of Egyptians support executing adulterers by stoning, 77% support whipping and cutting the hands off thieves. 84% support executing any Muslim who changes his religion…When this preference is translated into actual government policy, it is clear that the Islam they support is the al Qaida Salafist version.”


31 posted on 02/07/2011 7:30:21 AM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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