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Two Kinds of Atheists
Townhall.com ^ | February 7, 2011 | Mike Adams

Posted on 02/07/2011 4:00:33 AM PST by Kaslin

An atheist reader has asked that I devote a column to explaining what he sees as my contempt for atheists. In past columns, I have exhibited a careless tendency to lump atheists together into a single homogeneous category. In my experience, there are two distinct categories of atheists – the unbelieving atheist and the evangelistic atheist. Only the latter category is deserving of contempt.

There are a number of reasons why a person might identify himself as an unbelieving atheist. I believe very firmly that one can be reasonably mistaken in one’s unbelief. While I think atheists are uniformly wrong, I do not consider them to be uniformly unreasonable.

It may well be the case that the unbeliever was raised by atheist parents in a home without religious instruction. I know of atheists who were raised in homes without a copy of the Bible. Each had to rely upon second hand accounts of what the Bible says on a variety of issues. Most of them never got around to reading it firsthand.

Those who lack religious influence in the home and religious instruction at an early age are at a disadvantage in 21st century America. Long before President Obama declared that we are no longer a Christian nation, our courts and schools began to lay the foundation for post-Christian America.

There is no mistaking the fact that our public school system has become secularized to the point of relinquishing any claims of neutrality. Most schools have reached the point of being overtly anti-religious. Kids who have no firm foundation in Judeo-Christian ethics are likely to become highly resistant to conversion at a later age. You can thank our public schools for that. We all pay for public education in more ways than one.

The unbelieving atheist often sets a high standard of proof when confronted with Christian apologetics. That is what his culture teaches. He is also taught that religion and logic are incompatible. I recently heard someone say, “One can’t put the words logic and religion in the same sentence.” Of course, that statement contains a serious flaw: It uses the words logic and religion in the same sentence.

Regardless of what others say, we are commanded as Christians to provide a ready defense for our beliefs. And that calls for the use of logic and reason and evidence. We are obligated to polish our arguments. It is a part of our obligation to hold out a candle and light up the world.

But holding out a candle cannot help others to see the sun. If things have become dark enough for them our candle might even obscure their view of the stars. At some point they must be willing to look beyond isolated arguments. They must open their eyes and contemplate their surroundings. And they must look beyond concepts like “luck” and “random variation” to find a more complex and refined view of the universe.

I love my unbelieving atheist friends and I enjoy the conversations we have on many weighty issues. Even when they seem stubborn, they seldom seem unreasonable. The fact that many of them are politically conservative gives me great hope.

But the evangelistic atheist is a different breed altogether. One atheist evangelist sits in his office with piles of anti-religious books as he prepares his next lecture for his Sociology of Religion class. He curses more than he uses words like “a” and “the.” And he posts the headlines of the latest church scandal on his office door. He takes more pride in the failure of others than in his own personal achievements.

Another evangelistic atheist writes books distorting the history of Christianity and the life and words of Jesus – all the while calling it scholarship. He develops courses on “Atheism and Unbelief.” He even posts “Godless!” (Compete with the exclamation point!) in the “religious views” portion of his Facebook profile. Yet he claims emotional detachment on issues of faith and religion.

In short, the evangelistic atheist is characterized less by the absence of belief than by a zeal for destroying the beliefs of others. He is seldom politically conservative and almost always “very liberal.” Just take a few minutes to examine his Facebook profile.

The politically conservative unbelieving atheist must wake up and connect the dots between religion and politics and between social and fiscal conservatism. He must realize that the evangelistic atheist is on a political rather than religious crusade. His evangelism targets religion because he seeks to destroy the family. And he seeks to destroy the family because he seeks to replace it with the welfare state.

Our individual liberties are in jeopardy. But they may only be taken away by men if it is presumed that they are granted by men. We need fair-minded unbelieving atheists to reconsider the underpinnings of their beliefs. A godless conservatism is only one election away from extinction.


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1 posted on 02/07/2011 4:00:37 AM PST by Kaslin
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2 posted on 02/07/2011 4:02:08 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

For those who are what I call, “exttreme” atheists, faith and state must be kept miles apart from each other no matter the costs. But it is set up for epic fail indeed.


3 posted on 02/07/2011 4:17:59 AM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve run into evangelistic atheists, about all one can do is pray for them. They are indeed very much like liberals in their zeal, whether they are liberal politically or not. They want and hope to convince others to non believe the way they do. They seem to be seeking confirmation.

They form their own groups, which they are perfectly free to do in our society, that too is to reassure each other.

My group (Church) is formed to worship the living God as a family of believers.


4 posted on 02/07/2011 4:26:16 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country. The thing is, Sarah loves mine.)
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To: Kaslin

Evangelical atheists=angry atheists. The most obnoxious people on the planet.And yes, typically left wing.


5 posted on 02/07/2011 4:26:26 AM PST by chuckee
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To: Kaslin

We are not endowed by chance with unalienable rights which is why an atheist philosophy inevitably leads to political slavery.


6 posted on 02/07/2011 4:29:51 AM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: chuckee

Evangelical atheists=angry atheists. The most obnoxious people on the planet.And yes, typically left wing.

Except for those Christians like the Westboro Baptist Church...there are obnoxious Christian Evangelists.


7 posted on 02/07/2011 5:35:41 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: chuckee

Re: Evangelical atheists=angry atheists. The most obnoxious people on the planet.And yes, typically left wing

They are “antithiests: They know God exists and fight Him.


8 posted on 02/07/2011 5:41:06 AM PST by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: Biggirl

Ironically, keeping “faith and state” “separated” invariably leads to the state BECOMING god.

Especially if you mix in hardcore relativism - under relativism, what is true and right is determined by who gets the power to enforce their truth and morality.

With the objective standard of morality, and the agreement to defer to it regardless of our own opinion, it doesn’t matter so much who has power.


9 posted on 02/07/2011 5:44:09 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: Graybeard58
They want and hope to convince others to non believe the way they do. They seem to be seeking confirmation.
The alcoholic at the family reunion...
10 posted on 02/07/2011 5:48:22 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t believe in atheists; really I don’t.

You have people who reject God for one reason or another. The ones that are angry about it, make that rejection a production. Not unlike adult chidlren who revel in showing their parents that they can do anything that they want to (generally the worse the better). They profess not to care what their parents think, yet they can’t stopping talking about how much they “don’t care”.

The action refutes the assertion.


11 posted on 02/07/2011 5:50:39 AM PST by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: MrB

You got it. Said it better then I could. :)


12 posted on 02/07/2011 5:52:39 AM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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To: Tribune7

Ayn Rand does a good job refuting that.


13 posted on 02/07/2011 5:55:51 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Biggirl

I’ve met those kind of people. Frankly, they come across as having a “kill the Jews” mentality in regards to religion.


14 posted on 02/07/2011 5:59:16 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Kaslin

I believe I’m the former, and I don’t have a whole lot of respect for the latter myself.

I’m content not to believe in God and leave it at that, but I also have Christian parents and many Christian friends and mentors and I have no interest in seeing them cursed or belittled simply for being religious. I know I’m going against Ayn Rand on this and I’m a big supporter of hers, but I do believe it is possible to believe in God and still be a wise, kind and successful person.


15 posted on 02/07/2011 6:02:42 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Dudoight
"Evangelical atheists=angry atheists."

I call them "militant secularists."

16 posted on 02/07/2011 6:03:15 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Kaslin

There’s a guy who posts reviews on Amazon, going by the name “lucifer”. He likes to find religiously oriented books, then post biting, sarcastic reviews and give them five starts so that they are right there among the other reviewers who actually did like the book.

My first thought was, gee, this guy has time to spare....


17 posted on 02/07/2011 6:04:36 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: oprahstheantichrist

The only difference between a secular humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he’s working for.


18 posted on 02/07/2011 6:06:55 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my about page. Click my handle.)
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To: Dudoight
Except for those Christians like the Westboro Baptist Church...there are obnoxious Christian Evangelists.

They are not Christian at all. Not one iota. Christ will have nothing to do with them and they will be sent to the lake of fire with more guilt on them than an athiest. They are actively destroying lives by lying about their beliefs.

19 posted on 02/07/2011 6:21:58 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: RWB Patriot

Your post puts into words my take on this subject. It matter not to me what a persons beliefs are. I judge by their actions.


20 posted on 02/07/2011 6:24:10 AM PST by refermech
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