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NC Bill Would Ban Cell Phones While Driving, Even Hands Free
WNCN ^ | 2/7/11 | Jackie Faye

Posted on 02/07/2011 8:10:43 AM PST by AT7Saluki

On Monday, a bill banning talking on the phone while driving will be introduced in the North Carolina Senate. The bill would ban using hands free devices while driving as well.

Highway Patrol Trooper Beckley Vaughn said it boils down to being distracted while driving. Vaughn said at only 55 mph, a driver goes about 88 feet per second. He said the average reaction time is only .75 of a second.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: bill; carolina; cell; donutwatch; lowiq; mathskills; nannystate; phone
Obligatory list of "what about's" ...
Eating while driving, reading while driving, applying makeup while driving, GPS while driving, ...
1 posted on 02/07/2011 8:10:46 AM PST by AT7Saluki
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To: AT7Saluki

Oh please..how stupid


2 posted on 02/07/2011 8:12:45 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: AT7Saluki

Utter bull****. Cops have been doing it for years. So have truck drivers.

I hope Nikki Haley vetoes it if it passes.


3 posted on 02/07/2011 8:13:24 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: AT7Saluki

I have a hands-free system in my car and all the controls are right on the steering wheel. Talking on it is no more distracting than to a passenger or listening to the radio. So if they are going to ban hands-free, they might as well ban speaking to passengers and listening to radios as well!


4 posted on 02/07/2011 8:14:05 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 33 days from outliving Vince Foster)
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To: AT7Saluki

I am able to talk on the phone and drive at the same time and it is far less of a distraction to have the phone to my ear than fumbling for hands free buttons.

...but, there are people out there that simply don’t have a clue. I saw one guy stopped at a right turn that had no stop. He was talking on the phone. Others drive gradually slow down and they get more into their phone call.

If you can’t drive and talk on the phone at the same time, don’t! You are ruining it for the rest of us that can.


5 posted on 02/07/2011 8:14:18 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: JaneNC

Why don’t they just ban passengers from riding in the car? Or, maybe they can implement some sort of ordinance against talking to one another while the car is in motion? Why don’t we outlaw radios, while we’re at it?


6 posted on 02/07/2011 8:14:56 AM PST by cartervt2k (...and they cling to their abortions and their global warming religion)
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To: AT7Saluki

These bills are ridiculous. There are already laws against distracted driving. Enforce them.


7 posted on 02/07/2011 8:14:56 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: SamAdams76
Talking on it is no more distracting than to a passenger or listening to the radio.

If there are passengers in the car, they should be the only ones allowed to talk and listen to the radio. The driver should not be able to talk to passengers or listen to the radio.

8 posted on 02/07/2011 8:16:48 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: AT7Saluki

This bill is aimed at revenue generation not public saftey.


9 posted on 02/07/2011 8:16:57 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SoFloFreeper
I hope Nikki Haley vetoes it if it passes.

Unfortunately, she won't get a chance to, as she is SOUTH Carolina's governour, not North Carolina's. If this bill passes, it will go to Beverly "Sweet as Sugah, Honey Chil'" Perdue's desk, and she'll sign it. She's never met an idiot bill she didn't just love.

That being said, I WISH Nikki Haley was our governour...

10 posted on 02/07/2011 8:18:21 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: AT7Saluki

The bottom line is this. A lot of productive people have to drive a lot during the working day. Having to stop every time one needs to make or take a call is a productivity killer. This is an anti-economy bill.

Note the justification for the law - at 55 mph you travel so far in a second, blah, blah. Pitiful. That’s the best they have?

There is no statistical evidence to support such bills.


11 posted on 02/07/2011 8:18:24 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: AT7Saluki
God Lord! Have any of these fools seen the dashboard of newer cars? It's a friggin’ computer, complete with pull up keyboards! So many gadgets and they're worried about “hands-free” usage of a cell phone?!!!
12 posted on 02/07/2011 8:20:07 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wrong state. Our governor up here is Bev “Sugar Dumplin’” Perdue, a Democrat. Both houses of the General Assembly are run by Republicans for the first time since Reconstruction, though, so let’s hope they don’t get behind this bill and are smart enough to block it. Perdue, I expect, will sign it if it gets to her, as she’s all about the nanny state.

}:-)4


13 posted on 02/07/2011 8:20:41 AM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: AT7Saluki

Based upon their logic, they should ban radios, eating, conversations with a passenger, children,....


14 posted on 02/07/2011 8:21:07 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: AT7Saluki

I’ve made the choice to not talk on the phone when driving, except in very unique circumstances. I do find it distracting. I don’t necessarily support legislation against it, but I do support legislation against horrific driving (which is frequently accomplished by a driver on a phone).


15 posted on 02/07/2011 8:23:23 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wrong Carolina. :)


16 posted on 02/07/2011 8:23:52 AM PST by Cailleach
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To: AT7Saluki
I freely admit; I suck at driving and talking on a cell, so I DON'T!

Don't we already have enough rules and laws on the books to take care of pretty much any incident involving motor vehicles already?
It's fairly simple, you plow into someone else, you are responsible for taking care of the damages the other property owner incurs.

This "cell phone" law smells of a revenue making scheme by the state.

17 posted on 02/07/2011 8:26:25 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: SoFloFreeper
I hope Nikki Haley vetoes it if it passes.

Lot of good that would do.

18 posted on 02/07/2011 8:28:59 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: AT7Saluki
Obligatory list of "what about's" ... Eating while driving, reading while driving, applying makeup while driving, GPS while driving, ...

You left out watching TV while driving:

AUGUSTA, Maine Maine state police say a Kentucky motorist had an excuse when she was stopped because she watching a TV show while driving on I-95. Spokesman Steve McCausland says the motorist told a trooper that she was tired and was watching the “Gilmore Girls” on her laptop computer to stay awake.

Trooper Tim Marks was stationed at the Gardiner toll plaza making sure drivers were were wearing seat belts when he saw the motorist pass through with her laptop open over the Fourth of July weekend.

The motorist, who was not identified, did not receive a citation for her actions. Maine law prohibits motorists from watching television while driving, but the statute is vague when it comes to other electronic components like a computer.

19 posted on 02/07/2011 8:30:49 AM PST by abbyg55
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To: All
Ban Mobile-Data Terminals and two-way radio usage as well.... because we don't need distracted drivers behind the wheels of emergency vehicles driving at high rates of speed while operating flashing lights and sirens.
20 posted on 02/07/2011 8:32:01 AM PST by Klemper
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To: Klemper

How about using funds from the Stimulus package to pay for signs that say “No Talking!”? Police can use Big Ear Listening Devices to make sure our lips are sealed.


21 posted on 02/07/2011 8:36:51 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: AT7Saluki
They can already fine you for not wearing a seat belt and the danger in not wearing one is to yourself. Seats and belts for children is one thing but I don't see the difference between a fine for an adult not wearing a belt and a fine for an adult using the phone. If they can say you risking your own butt is a hazard they say you on a cellphone is a hazard as well. I've always worn my seat belt but I hate ending up in a line waiting for half an hour while they're passing out tickets for no belt especially when almost every car has only the driver in it.

Just sayin’, you give them an inch don't bitch when they think they're ruler.

22 posted on 02/07/2011 8:40:43 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: BigBobber
“Having to stop every time one needs to make or take a call is a productivity killer”

Yep, but worse, how many people will get killed sitting on the side of the interstate on the phone?

23 posted on 02/07/2011 8:58:41 AM PST by ryan71 (Dear spell check - No, I will not capitalize the "m" in moslem!)
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To: JaneNC

hows about closing the gap on illegals voting without picture ids....or getting state aid, food stamps and free health care without documentation...and on and on FIRST!


24 posted on 02/07/2011 9:04:17 AM PST by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: circlecity

I think it’s more sinister than that. How can a cop know whether you are talking on a cell phone hands free? In other words, what constitutes probable cause? Your lips are moving? You’re gesturing? You”look” like you’re deep in conversation?

If this passes, you can be stopped for anything. It’s one of those “dragnet” laws designed to put all citizens under the cops’ watchful eye.


25 posted on 02/07/2011 9:14:05 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: AT7Saluki
I have wondered how many of the 'holier-than-thou, my-poop-don't-stink, no talking on cell phone do-gooders' have GPS systems in their cars.
26 posted on 02/07/2011 9:22:21 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: AT7Saluki
Gee, guess there are a lot of activities which NC will need to address.

Distracted drivers pose safety hazard, according to new UNC study

The study found that drivers were most often distracted by something outside their vehicle (29.4 percent) followed by adjusting a radio or CD player (11.4 percent). Other specific distractions included talking with other occupants (10.9 percent), adjusting vehicle or climate controls (2.8 percent), eating or drinking (1.7 percent), cell-phone use (1.5 percent) and smoking (0.9 percent).

http://www.aaafoundation.org/multimedia/index.cfm?button=disdrv

27 posted on 02/07/2011 9:30:19 AM PST by Lockbox (`)
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To: AT7Saluki
By far, the greatest driver-distraction is the radio. The same logic applied to hands-free cellphone use would put an end to drive-through fast food and inevitably lead to someone getting a ticket for talking on a cell-phone when they were actually praying, or singing.

Will this same law apply to law enforcement? Would it ban the use of two-way radios, as well?

No. Unless the legislature is willing to try banning these other distractions first this one needs a lot more explanation.

Instead of the nanny "because we said so" argument they will need to cite the studies showing a very real hypnotic state appears to exist among drivers when talking on a cellphone while driving.

The legislature will need to explore less baby & bathwater measures, such as limiting hands-free calls while driving to thirty seconds, or something similar.

This bill, as it stands, amounts to a ban on cellphones in general, or a ban on their use, and smacks of creating probable cause for officer intervention where no other exists.

28 posted on 02/07/2011 9:33:03 AM PST by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: AT7Saluki

The Mythbusters did some experiments with this and found that carrying on a phone conversation caused as much driver impairment as driving drunk. Of course there is a difference in real life so that a person carrying on a conversation while driving would most likely stop talking and paying attention to the phone if conditions required rapt attention to driving. But it did show that being distracted by a conversation causes unsafe drivers.


29 posted on 02/07/2011 9:48:37 AM PST by OK
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To: AT7Saluki
Driver: "It's one of those cheap hearing aids, officer."

Cop: "OK, sir. Have a nice day. Sorry to inconvenience you."

30 posted on 02/07/2011 9:53:44 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: SamAdams76
...they might as well ban speaking to passengers and listening to radios as well!

I think they should every time I get behind someone engaged in conversation with their passenger while looking at them, gesticulating, and ignoring the traffic.

31 posted on 02/07/2011 9:55:05 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: gunsequalfreedom
I am able to talk on the phone and drive at the same time and it is far less of a distraction to have the phone to my ear than fumbling for hands free buttons.

Hands' free is much less distracting for me. It leaves me with both hands on the wheel and you are not distracted with 'talking into the phone' which tends to isolate you from external events.

32 posted on 02/07/2011 10:02:10 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: IronJack
I think it’s more sinister than that. How can a cop know whether you are talking on a cell phone hands free? In other words, what constitutes probable cause? Your lips are moving? You’re gesturing? You”look” like you’re deep in conversation?

If you are in an accident and are sued, they can get your cell-phone records to see if you were talking at the time of the accident.

33 posted on 02/07/2011 10:07:55 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Prospero
The legislature will need to explore less baby & bathwater measures, such as limiting hands-free calls while driving to thirty seconds, or something similar.

I can see where that would become license for the state to monitor everyone's cell phone usage and fine everyone for 31 second calls which pass from one tower to another.

There are laws against distracted driving already. Most of them include harsh penalties for causing an accident, plus penalties for infractions caused by distraction. Enforce the existing laws, says I.

34 posted on 02/07/2011 10:12:43 AM PST by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: AT7Saluki

give how smartphones now require letter entry to call a specific name, technology has already outpaced the law.

This sounds like a nanny state politician who was pissed off at someone. I bet there is an exclusion for these “special” people.


35 posted on 02/07/2011 10:19:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AT7Saluki

As a motorcycle rider who has had near death expierences from idiots talking on their phones I say ban the damn things while driving.

I also agree to ban eating, makup, shaving, reading, watching tv, etc while driving. When you are driving you should be just driving not a bunch of other stuff.

I don’t want to die because you feel it is time to say hello to grandma.


36 posted on 02/07/2011 10:19:53 AM PST by RickB444 (Beat your sword into plowshares, but wind up plowing the fields of someone who kept their sword.)
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To: BigBobber

...or the goal is to keep pushing the cattle car white elephant train systems.

Remember, the government wants us to use tains along government sanctioned courses.


37 posted on 02/07/2011 10:40:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JaneNC

But, but, Gov workers will be exempt. And maybe a couple union vehicles.


38 posted on 02/07/2011 10:42:44 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: RickB444

Yay, more Government control because we cannot take care of ourselves.


39 posted on 02/07/2011 10:47:10 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: AT7Saluki
Vaughn said at only 55 mph, a driver goes about 88 feet per second.

Cop math fail. 55 mph = 80.67 ft/sec

40 posted on 02/07/2011 10:56:15 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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To: AT7Saluki

What about posting messages on FR threads, eating a hot dog, searching for a good afternoon radio talk show and cleaning out earwax all at the same time while driving on a crowded Interstate? It can be done, y’know...


41 posted on 02/07/2011 11:06:20 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
I have wondered how many of the 'holier-than-thou, my-poop-don't-stink, no talking on cell phone do-gooders' have GPS systems in their cars.

Actually, these people think their poop smells particularly fine!

CA....

42 posted on 02/07/2011 11:06:53 AM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: longtermmemmory
Remember, the government wants us to use tains

I hate the idea of using tains. They're mainly a pain with no gain.

43 posted on 02/07/2011 11:08:14 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: OK

mythbusters skews their tests to favor the PC solution.

essentially, the nanny solution prevails.


44 posted on 02/07/2011 11:11:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SeeSac

Yeah, they can do all that AFTER the fact. But where’s the probable cause for the stop?


45 posted on 02/07/2011 12:01:48 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: AT7Saluki

Yes, no doubt they’re planning to restrict listening to the radio while driving and chewing gum while driving, as well.

One waits in astonished anticipation for The Government to restrict scratching one’s b*lls while driving.

The Nanny State never sleeps.


46 posted on 02/07/2011 12:13:43 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: AT7Saluki

cops first ??? but surely theyre trained to click the mike while flyin thru city streets w/o ‘distractions’...


47 posted on 02/07/2011 12:21:10 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: MaxMax

Hey, it’s not that we can’t take care of ourselves, but until I get the right to shoot assholes who almost kill me weekly while I’m riding my bike on roads I share with them then I say we need to tell people they don’t have a right to drive and talk on the phone.

You don’t have a right to drive. It is a privilege. And as such it is controlled by a government agency already.

Too many dumb idiots think they have a right to drive and talk on the phone. They don’t. Studies have been done that show it is equal to driving drunk. I’ve had too many close calls with you guys on your phones driving like you were lost or drunk and almost killing me when I am in the lane next to you all because you can’t see around your phone.

If you think you have the right to drive and talk on the phone then you pass to me the right to pull out my 1911 and pop your head like a zit for attempted murder with your car.


48 posted on 02/07/2011 1:17:03 PM PST by RickB444 (Beat your sword into plowshares, but wind up plowing the fields of someone who kept their sword.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

sorry. my bad.


49 posted on 02/08/2011 6:18:25 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: AT7Saluki

As long as it applies to law enforcement, ambulances, and fire...

Oh, they only want this for the little people.


50 posted on 02/08/2011 10:12:06 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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