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Glenn Beck, Bill Kristol, and the Unholy Alliance of Radical Islam and the American Left
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | February 8, 2010 | David Horowitz

Posted on 02/08/2011 9:46:48 AM PST by HorowitzianConservative

Bill Kristol is entitled to his optimism about democratic revolutions in the Islamic world. Perhaps the elections in Egypt will turn out better than those in Gaza where Hamas now rules a terrorist state; Iraq, which has instituted an Islamic Republic; Lebanon, where Hezbollah now rules a terrorist state; and Afghanistan, which is a kleptocracy wooing the terrorist theocracy in Iran. What he should not be doing as a conservative leader is demonizing Glenn Beck, who has done more to educate Americans about the unholy alliance between the secular left and the Islamic jihadists than anyone else. Kristol needs to  apologize to Beck for comparing him -- outrageously -- to the conspiracist Robert Welch, and should be embarrassed by his own ignorance of the agendas of both American radicals and their jihadist allies. At this point in time, such ignorance is not only inexcusable but dangerous.

Here are some sources for Kristol to consult:

David Horowitz, Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left, 2004

Andrew McCarthy, The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America, 2010

"Radical Islam's Alliance with the Socialist Left" a section of DiscovertheNetworks.org


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KEYWORDS: billkristol; davidhorowitz; glennbeck; islam; radicalislam; theleft; unholyalliance
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There shouldn't be any question that Freepers have the moral clarity to recognize which side is right in this fight.
1 posted on 02/08/2011 9:46:52 AM PST by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative

bttt


2 posted on 02/08/2011 9:50:31 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
IMO its difficult to overestimate how wacked-out radical the left has become - they have the network, money, shock troops and are motivated.

Assuming the worst of intentions for them is the safest policy. I'm with Beck on this one.

3 posted on 02/08/2011 9:51:06 AM PST by skeeter
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Kristol is completely ignorant on this subject.

The question is, is it intentional.


4 posted on 02/08/2011 9:52:42 AM PST by Castigar
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Kristol’s squishy RINOism is the main reason I no longer subscribe to the WS...and if Sarah Palin is elected his head will explode.
5 posted on 02/08/2011 9:52:58 AM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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To: Castigar
Oops! I misspelled his name!




6 posted on 02/08/2011 9:54:23 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Posted this on another thread an hour ago..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2670021/posts?page=82#82

Bill Kristol, Rich Lowry and Joe Klein Gang Up on Glenn Beck

We all know there is an unholy alliance between the extreme left and anti-American extremists everywhere..but the Muslim Brotherhood did not..repeat..did not start the protests in Egypt...high prices, high unemployment and strong arm tactics cause them. That is not to say they wouldn't love to have a Caliphate or take over the protests. Which brings me to the problem I have with what Beck is doing right now...

Beck is giving too much credit and advertisement to a marginalized fraction of the population. Sorry..it's a dumb thing to do right now.

7 posted on 02/08/2011 9:55:04 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: JPG

“and if Sarah Palin is elected his head will explode.”

I think you need to revisit Kristol’s stance on Palin.


8 posted on 02/08/2011 9:55:36 AM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
I read David's great contribution on this some years back when it came out. As always, the media ignored sound research from the right.

Bill wants to be a TV contrarian like Krauthammer and can't heft he gravitas he is shooting for without missteps like this.

9 posted on 02/08/2011 9:56:37 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: HorowitzianConservative

The only “side” that is right is that we should never have gotten into this mess. To translate, that means that we should have NEVER extorted U.S. tax money and given to either Israel or the sadistic torturer welfare bum, Mubarak.


10 posted on 02/08/2011 9:57:13 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Bill Kristol only advanced Palin's name because he thought she would drag down the 2008 Republican ticket.

Kristol is a complete hack. A person cannot be that ignorant... he is a progressive.
11 posted on 02/08/2011 9:58:43 AM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Earthdweller
Realize why Beck is doing this: Glenn Beck believes he has discovered a global machine, which allows his mind to see the cogs of this machine in any disruption within a society, anywhere ont he planet. He might be onto something, but the problem is we won't know until the 'hopey dopey change has already happened. If he is correct, however, there is a domino effect and this gives time to see the pattern. If Egypt goes radical Is slam sharia then we can be sure Glenn was on the right track in his perception.
12 posted on 02/08/2011 9:58:53 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Earthdweller
I don't have time to read that entire thread.

Did anyone offer an explanation for the involvement of various leftist entities such as Code Pink, Bill Ayers, George Soros, GOOGLE (for crying out loud), etc. in the recent Egyptian unrest?

13 posted on 02/08/2011 9:59:56 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Eyes Unclouded
The stance of Kristol’s magazine is decidedly anti-Palin and he is the editor. His personal, half-stepping, kinda-sorta approval of Sarah is not impressive to me.
14 posted on 02/08/2011 10:00:31 AM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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To: MHGinTN

So we should believe that that muslim brotherhood is akin to the boy scouts and then when the middle east is observing Sharia law we’ll say to ourselves.......gee, Beck was right?


15 posted on 02/08/2011 10:02:11 AM PST by Carley (ARAB STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN AMERICA'S LEFT)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Democracy is Mob Rule.. by mobsters..
Egypt has always had Mob Rule.. and will continue have..
Sharia Law is democracy.. they want Mob Rule..
And the socialist left is also Mob Rule..
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Democracy is the road to socialism. -Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. -V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism .-Karl Marx

16 posted on 02/08/2011 10:02:26 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Showing the limits of the neo-com vision. Their secularism is a blind spot. As Mark Stein pointed out yesterday, the culture in the Middle East has become visibly more Islamic than it was thirty years ago. The PLO, originally secular in character, inviting even Christians into leadership positions,became more religious in Arafat’s last years. Hamas is just a louder version of the Muslim Brotherhood. Ditto Hizbollah. Syria is more openly an ally of Iran. Afghanistan is a lost cause, and even Iraq has become a fiery furnace for a Christian community that goes back to apostolic times. The Jews of Bagdad are all gone:soon it was be the Christians who are gone. How long will the Bagdad government remain friendly to the United States? Forget the technicality of the Caliphate. The Muslim world is reverting to what it was in the 17th century, reasserting itself against a weakening “Christian” world.


17 posted on 02/08/2011 10:03:38 AM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: skeeter
Of course they did...our own Kristinn was one of the authors.

Beck has taken what we all have known for years (like he has done for the past two plus years without ever mentioning this website BTW) and announced it like it's all a sudden an epiphany of his own and is acting all freaked out about it...giving aid and advertisement to a fanning of the flames across the ME.

It's all very reckless...our state dept (which I'm sure is way to liberal for my taste) must be wondering what the h@ck is he thinking injecting himself into the situation like this....

18 posted on 02/08/2011 10:11:30 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: hosepipe

Pure democracy is the road to chaos! Democray only works with-in a framework of strict limits.!


19 posted on 02/08/2011 10:12:07 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: Castigar

Yes. He is a Globalist. One Worlder. Beck is not. Kristol is a Bilderberger member if that gives anyone a clue. He is working to help form the Amero Zone eventually. USA, Canada, and Mexico. The NWO is trying to form up the Arab zone starting with Egypt. They think the Euro Zone is such a good thing.


20 posted on 02/08/2011 10:13:10 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Earthdweller
Sounds like your problem with Beck is more his lack of footnoting.

Personally, I think more information vetted by as wide an audience as possible is always good.

21 posted on 02/08/2011 10:20:32 AM PST by skeeter
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To: timetostand
[ Pure democracy is the road to chaos! Democracy only works with-in a framework of strict limits.! ]

America is NOT a democracy.. because of the electoral college.. pure or partial..
The States and local politics may be... but not the federal government..

22 posted on 02/08/2011 10:20:48 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

I had to laugh last night when Beck was Talking about how lil’ Billy Kristol was clueless, and the next commercial was for the Weekly Standard, LOL.


23 posted on 02/08/2011 10:24:13 AM PST by GraceG
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To: screaminsunshine

Beck is very much a globalist. He wants us to lead a world and empire which will intervene in every nook and cranny of the planet when the mood strikes him. The anti-globalist solution for the Middle East is to get the hell out, cut off aid to all sides, including the sadistic torturer Mubarak. Beck (at least when he is coherent on taking a clear stand) rejects the anti-globablist view on that issu.


24 posted on 02/08/2011 10:24:54 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

All you need to know about Beck is that he is attacked personally by his enemies - his theories and facts are always left unchallenged. Unfortunately, there is a segment of American society that is dedicated to the idea that all religions are equal and that Islam is just another one of these, hijacked by a lunatic fringe. Some of them are even Republicans.


25 posted on 02/08/2011 10:26:29 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: Captain Kirk

He does? I thought otherwise. How do you know?


26 posted on 02/08/2011 10:26:36 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

That’s not even the half of it. I watch an interview with a RETIRED FBI guy, supposedly involved in investigations of MB. If his attitude is representative of the thinking in the FBI.....WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

He praised the MB “social” programs. Even said he respected some of their leaders in U.S.
I wonder if he would express the same warm and fuzzies for Militia Orgs?/s

This may be the problem in U.S., the FBI doesn’t see the MB as a problem.


27 posted on 02/08/2011 10:28:44 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Carley

Beck misses the key issue. Mubarak quashed all secular opposition (and tortured many of them in horribly sadisitic ways) but DID NOT similarly crack down on the Brotherhood. The end result was to empower the Brotherhood as the only well-organized opposition force. NONE of this would have been possible had we stayed out of the region by, for example, propping up our “friend” Mubarak. The solution now is to give more money to a confirmed welfare bum and eveil torturer but cut off aid to all sides. Again, Beck misses this.


28 posted on 02/08/2011 10:29:03 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Earthdweller

So your theory is that Beck should shut up until the MB in U.S. starts demanding shriah law. (they have already started the process)

No way. people sat around and laughed at those crazy Commie/Marxist/Socialist/Progressive. Now we are in a fight for the Constitution.

Beck is the only one with the GUTS to stand up and tell the truth.


29 posted on 02/08/2011 10:33:39 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: skeeter

Beck has been a conduit of the people on the domestic side, I was one of his first cheerleaders when people didn’t watch him at all. But he is scr@wing up big-time on this. Somebody needs to tell him about loose-lips and to stop screaming fire in the theatre. Geez Lousie...


30 posted on 02/08/2011 10:33:39 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Marty62
I am eternally grateful there are finally alternative sources for information that aren't left wing reactionary.

Some folks will b*tch about anything.

31 posted on 02/08/2011 10:39:11 AM PST by skeeter
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To: screaminsunshine

How does one “know” anything about Beck. One day he is for TARP, for example, one day he is against it. One day is an apologist for the Iraq War, the next day he isn’t. One day he seems to be for the right to build the Manhattan mosque and the next he seems to be against it. He is a master at implying positions but not stating them.

On this issue, he has spent virtually all of his time pointing out the evils of the MB and NONE of his time stressing the significant fact that Mubarak empowered the MB as the only effective opposition by tolerating them on the one hand and brutally suppressing secularist opposition on the other. This empowerment of the MB, however, would NOT have been possible without our aid to Mubarak. Instead of focusing on this, Beck leaves the impression is the Mubarak deserves support because he is the “alternative” to the MB. Of course, Beck only leaves an impression, as is his typical style.


32 posted on 02/08/2011 10:39:22 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Captain Kirk

He is going through the shock of becoming “aware”.


33 posted on 02/08/2011 10:41:51 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: skeeter

“Did anyone offer an explanation for the involvement of various leftist entities such as Code Pink, Bill Ayers, George Soros, GOOGLE (for crying out loud), etc. in the recent Egyptian unrest?”

Michael Savage did here: http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/files/filesSavage/Savage-ObamaGivingMiddleEastToIslamistRadicals-Rev03.pdf

I sum it up as a lynch mob inspired and steered by killer Muslims, Iran’s tyrants and the International Communists.


34 posted on 02/08/2011 10:42:18 AM PST by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Marty62
. Beck is the only one with the GUTS to stand up and tell the truth.

If he truly had "GUTS" he'd stress that Mubarak empowered the MB by tolerating it even while he brutally suppressed through torture secularist opposition. IF Beck truly had "GUTS' he'd note that none of this empowerment could have occured had we not given massive aid to Mubarak. Beck is a fear monger and warmonger who only tells part of the story. If he wanted to do something constructive, he'd call for ending the policy that started this mess: U.S. efforts to play favorites in the Middle East in the last few decades.

35 posted on 02/08/2011 10:44:06 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

“and if Sarah Palin is elected his head will explode.”

I think you need to revisit Kristol’s stance on Palin.

Funny, I’ve never heard Kristol say a kind thing about Palin in any context. Very much like Krauthammer. From the elitist republican class, if you aren’t part of the establishment, he’s not worthy...


36 posted on 02/08/2011 10:45:01 AM PST by Robbin (If Sarah isn’t welcome, I’m not welcome, it’s just that simple…)
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To: screaminsunshine

I’ve listened to him for years. Few talk show hosts are more driven by ratings than he is or more clever in finding ways to pump them up.


37 posted on 02/08/2011 10:45:55 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: hosepipe

no kidding! It is a democratic republic


38 posted on 02/08/2011 10:47:45 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: Robbin
"Funny, I’ve never heard Kristol say a kind thing about Palin in any context. ..."

I have. Actually for years I didn't get a good feeling about Kristol (nauseating)..he came across like an elitist jerk/snob type. But he amazed me in the last few years with a softer style that started when he was one of the few on FOX who never failed to endorse and/or say positive things about Palin. I've rather taken a liking to him..as well as Beck.

39 posted on 02/08/2011 10:56:23 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Obviously you don’t watch Beck his focus is on the U.S.

Mubarak knows where ALL the U.S. skeletons are buried.
ANY PREZ that tries to force him to do anything he doesn’t want to do, will be the target of selective leaks.
Why do you think Zero is backing off.

The Only ones in the U.S. that “started” this mess are the Zero agents Ayers, Dorn, Hoyers, Moran and Code pink that have been active in Egypt for the past year. Even using Egypt as a staging ground for thier attacks on Israel.

Becks interest in Egypt is secondary to the ties between the Marxist/Fascist Islamist and the American Left.

Do you think Beck is going to turn on Israel, like YOU want, I think you will be disappointed.
Your apparent willingness to sacrifice Israel for some Mulin Theocracy with Shariah Law is...well...interesting.


40 posted on 02/08/2011 10:59:51 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Carley

Did I say anything like the crap you tried to put in my post? Anything to do with Mooselimb is from the demonic side of the universe. The MB is a militant, ‘annihilate Isarel and destroy America’ org, but only one of a looong list of such demon spawn. Our ‘friends’ the Saudis have been exporting their hate using our petro dollars for deacdes, in what are euphemistically called religious school, madrassas, institutions designed for one thing, to teach hate of anything not under Sahria law. Yes, our ‘friends’ the Saudis.


41 posted on 02/08/2011 11:00:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: timetostand
[ no kidding! It is a democratic republic ]

It's a Constitutional Republic..
The constitution has 3 words not present anywhere in it..
1) democratic..
2) democracy...
3) democrat...

Its was on purpose it was not an over sight..
The founders knew those words and steered clear of them ON PURPOSE...

Democracy is a BAD WORD.. a nasty word..
Most America has been brain washed with it by progressive teacher administrations..
It has become a HOLY Word to secular progressives..

Anything relating to democracy has become political PORN..

42 posted on 02/08/2011 11:03:57 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: screaminsunshine
"He is going through the shock of becoming “aware”.

True..I'll never forget how I felt...it was a freggin' emergency.

We all have to keep in mind..he spent part of his time at the Communist News Network....where they drop commie propaganda like a gumball machine to the kiddies. He was in the dark..

43 posted on 02/08/2011 11:05:01 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Maybe they don’t like the idea that Mubarak was going after the Islmofascist murderers.:

Jan 01, 2011
Government officials in Alexandria, Egypt, increased security around places of worship following an explosion that killed at least 21 people at a church in the region, the governor told state media Saturday.

“We are stressing now on guarding churches,” Adil Labib, the governor of Alexandria, told state-run Nile TV.

Evidence indicates that a suicide bomber caused the blast, the country’s interior ministry said.

Even though the scene of the explosion was blocked off, protesters carrying crosses gathered near the scene, Nile TV reported.

Authorities believe the bomber was killed in the blast, the interior ministry said in a statement. Forensic testing confirmed that the explosive device used was homemade and contained nails and ball-bearings, according to the statement.

Egypt’s health ministry said 79 people were wounded in the attack in Alexandria, the country’s official Middle East News Agency (MENA) reported. Four of them were police officers posted outside the church to protect the Christians worshipping inside, the interior ministry said.

“We heard a thunderous sound of explosion. I fell on the ground. I saw a car burning. You cannot imagine what we have seen there. ... It was a horrible scene,” said Nermin Nabil, who was crossing a street near the church when the blast went off.

Nile TV showed firefighters battling a blaze at the scene.

“This terrorism act has shocked us, hurt hearts of the Egyptians, Muslims and Coptics,” said Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, who addressed the nation hours after the bombing. “I would say with confidence, that we will chase the people who planned and committed this terrorism act, and we will chase the people involved with them.”


44 posted on 02/08/2011 11:12:22 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: hosepipe
Hosepipe said,

"Sharia Law is democracy"

you have an interesting prospective. I never thought of a Theocracy (Sharia Law) as a democracy. I don't really understand how creating a Caliphate and ruled by one man is a democracy or mob rule.

45 posted on 02/08/2011 11:26:54 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
[ you have an interesting prospective. I never thought of a Theocracy (Sharia Law) as a democracy. I don't really understand how creating a Caliphate and ruled by one man is a democracy or mob rule. ]

Monarchy is also MOb Rule by mobsters..
No democracy ever existed that was democratic..
Democracy is a lie.. an elite always rules.. always..

As in the Soviet Union an elite ruled.. Communism is Mob Rule..

46 posted on 02/08/2011 11:32:22 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

You do realize I agree with you, right!???!


47 posted on 02/08/2011 11:40:28 AM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: MHGinTN

OBL has been trying to over run Saudi Arabia for a long time.

Sometimes we deal with the devil because the alternative is unacceptable.

That’s the real world.


48 posted on 02/08/2011 12:01:47 PM PST by Carley (ARAB STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN AMERICA'S LEFT)
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To: Captain Kirk

muslim brotherhood was jailed in Egypt. When the prisoners were released the mb scum was freed.

Where did you get the idea that the mb were not in Mubarak’s crosshairs?


49 posted on 02/08/2011 12:03:35 PM PST by Carley (ARAB STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN AMERICA'S LEFT)
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To: MHGinTN
I will support Glenn Beck at all opportunities.

Kristol, Klein and Lowry remind me of fags, like Chris Matthews.

Our children and grandchildren will ask one day why we didn't deal with Islam while we still could.

50 posted on 02/08/2011 12:04:46 PM PST by blam
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