Skip to comments.McCain Supports Obama on Wasteful Spending (McCain wants to give Obama line-item veto power)
Posted on 02/09/2011 5:02:27 AM PST by rabscuttle385
WASHINGTON - Wasteful spending has been a big topic of discussion in Washington for years, and on Wednesday morning, the Arizona senator who ran against President Barack Obama is trying to help him fight it.
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His sharp right turn during the campaign has now been totally flushed down the toilet. What a POS!
SCOTUS has struck down the line item veto.
So tell us again how granting the President line-item veto power via proper Constitutional channels is a bad thing. The next GOP president would have it as well, and it would go a long ways to being able to curtail nonsense if used well.
people really are stupid.
How could anyone have voted this idiot back in is beyond me.
It’s amazing how many actually think those elected tell the truth when trying to get elected, truly amazes me how stupoid people are.
We are going to live in regret for the likes of this stupid old progressive being given another term.
Shame on those that supported him.
Actually McCain’s reaction is perfectly inline with a Progressive. If Obama has line item veto then he can preserve all this progressive legislation. McCain and Obama are on the same page with that one.
Hey John, just go ahead and make your announcement already. We know you’re dying to cross over and become a RAT, so just get it over with. You and Arlen Sphincter are peas in a pod anyhow.
McCain posturing as rising above partisanship to win the plaudits of the elites who then can more easily deride Republicans who stand on principle. McCain is becoming an accessory to the destruction of America by this radical left administration. I suspect he wants Obama to win in 2012.
It looks like they are taking another approach, still not sure if this would pass SCOTUS muster, as it creates a de facto way for the President to introduce legislation, which is not an executive power, and that rationale is what led SCOTUS to shoot down the line-item veto during the Clinton years:
The administration supports the Senate version, an official said. It would require a president to send Congress proposed rescissions within 45 calendar days after signing an appropriations measure sooner than the 45 Congressional business days that Mr. Obama proposed as a deadline. Congress would have to consider the presidents rescissions proposal immediately and the House and Senate could not amend it.
About the only thing that could pass SCOTUS muster, IMO, would be a Constitutional Amendment.
The main way the GOP can block Obama's agenda is by the House refusing to fund federal actions such as implementation of health care reform.
You can't line-item veto what isn't there.
It’s more than senile...McCain has been invaded by the body snatchers. He’s one of the pod people now.
Oh, sure, when Bush proposed it, he was practically laughed out of the building, but for Obama, it’s okay. I’m so ****ing sick of the hypocrisy!
McCainiac is nothing but a brown stain on the under clothing of responsible Conservatives.
Remember. This is likely McCain’s last term (he’ll be 80 in 2016).
So, with no worry about being re-elected, his mission over the next six years will be to undermine the conservative wing of the party and get back in the good graces of his base (the leftwing media).
Watch for TIME and Newsweek covers pumping up, “McCain’s Back.” Bank on it.
And why would the Reps go along with giving Obama more power? Obama could use the threat of line item vetos to push his agenda. Stupid given who occupies the WH.
Maybe because that power could later belong to a GOP president? The GOP gave Clinton line-item veto power (that eventually got overturned by SCOTUS).
A line item veto on budget items should be a good thing to conservatives.
>> McCainiac is nothing but a brown stain on the under clothing of responsible Conservatives.
Yeah, and he *itches* like the devil, too.
But he can line item any attempt to repeal...like they just tried.
Agreed on the house comment...that is a tool for the GOP to currently use but we don’t need to give Obama any more power.
McCain is proving what a retard he is. The line item veto was ruled unconstitutional over ten years ago.
And second, from what I have read of the line-item veto proposal, it is limited to appropriations. And since spending originates in the House, the GOP already has good control over what is appropriated and what is not.
IMO it will take a Constitutional Amendment to grant the president this power.
Obama could also be reelected. Doing it now is stupid given who is in the WH, i.e., the most radical Leftist ever to occupy the office of President. The last thing we want to give him is more power.
The real question...do you really want anymore power given to Obama?
We'll just have to agree to disagree here.
“McCain wants to give Obama line-item veto power”
Why, Juan, so that the Kenyan Fraud can veto the part of the budget bill that defunds ObamaDeathCare?
Who is in the White House should be secondary to that question.
During the Reagan years, Republicans routinely called for the line item veto for Reagan because democraps would lard up bills or put items in bills that did not belong. They liked the idea so much the Republicans passed law giving Klinton line item veto power in the 90's.
However, the line item veto was struck down by the Supreme Court, due to the work of hard core leftists who liked larding up bills and sneaking in legislation under the umbrella of other names.
Now, now, don’t go injecting history and logic into one of rab’s rants.
Right now I think the GOP should be 100% focused on making our current situation a dismal failure. We need to take the hit because this BS mode our country has been in for 20+ years just isn’t working out.
I think that's asinine. The situation is plenty bad enough without the GOP trying to deliberately let it get worse. Voters will judge the GOP harshly in 2012, IMO, if the GOP fails to try and improve matters.
It is asinine that you don’t understand just how bad things really are and where this ends up. We either derail what is happening now or we go to global war...seems you think that this is just another bump in the road of the wonderfully politically elite in this country.
History is clear on this and we are in the 1930’s again right now and you would be listening to Neville Chamberlain.
It is about time this country had a major dose of truth.
If the GOP doesn't take care of at least some of the issues that they campaigned on, guess what? The Dems are back in charge 2013. And if you think things are bad now, wait for that to go down.
I still think things can be turned around or at least mitigated. There was the same sense of gloom late in the Carter years, and it turned around after that.
So you don’t believe this ends in global conflict...ok I get your point. When you finally realize where this goes let’s check back and see if you think this ping pong game of one progressive running against another progressive is actually going to get us anywhere.
Look at this insanity:
How can the DOJ be involved with this?
The Republic is dead, we are no longer a nation of laws.
by the way, did I neglect to mention...NICE JOB, ARIZONA! /sarc
Funny, we got a lot of non-progressives elected this time around. I don't share your sense of gloom, sorry. I think things can be turned around - but waiting two more years is time we don't have.
Gee, let's see - could it be because the Dems controlled the House for two years and refused to excercise oversight, which has led to the DOJ feeling it can get away with anything?
But there is a new sheriff in town now. That's what I mean - you act like nothing changed last November, but it did in a big way.
McLiar pimped Hussein throughout the campaign so nothing has changed.
The Dems controlled the house ALL because the GOP was so corrupt that America threw them out and somehow you think the GOP has really changed???
They haven’t and you keep thinking...ok I know the GOP will get it right this time...
You are right we don’t have anymore time and that is exactly why the GOP should be doing everything in its power to shut everything down. Don’t fall for the too big too fail scam. It will be ok if the gov’t budgets are shut down - it will force them to make tough choices and the pain will be great but it will for a short duration.
Just like the depression during Coolidge, it was far worse then 1929 but it only lasted for 18 months and then we had the roaring 20’s. This patch crap that both the Dems and the GOP engage in only extend the misery.
Time for Americans to be bold.
Frankly, I think the executive branch has too much power. Executive orders and the executive branch bureauracry with its many czars who rule by fiat have usurped the powers of the legislative branch. We don’t need a king.
The patch crap is all out there now. It will take GOP action to undo at least part of it, such as getting rid of the 1099 provision in Obamacare.
Unfortunately dumping the 1099 requirement doesn’t even being to scratch the surface.
How about eliminating every single progressive program ever created for the last 100 years?
The discussion America needs to have now is: Can man govern themselves?
That is what the founders intended, that is the American Experiment.
Once we have that discussion and the lines are drawn who we want to be elected becomes quite clear and it really isn’t anyone running today (couple of exceptions).
It is going to take a huge change like to make a difference we have to stop rationalizing and continue to be willing to accept what is offered by the elite few - they are counting on us to remain apathetic and just accept what they serve up.
This is happening on our watch, our kids are watching us. They will ask us in the future...why did we let this happen?
The bottom line: We can no longer co-exist with progressives - we need to remove them from power and eliminate their ability to screw over the rest of us. They represent evil and nothing good. Their agenda is a complete and total scam.
So, then, tell us how that happens in real-time. Putting the bell on that cat is a great idea, grasshopper.
How about this - we follow the normal political approach of making progress each election and doing what can be done within each cycle?
Your approach sounds great in principle, but you have utterly no realistic way of doing it the way you envision.
following the normal political process...
How’s that worked out so far? Take a good look around at our country, the world?
The normal political process is exactly why we are where we are. As Reagan said Government is the problem.
Politics is the problem.
In the last 100 years we have had two decent presidents - Coolidge and Reagan. The political process is corrupt and broken and the only “political” group that stands for anything right now is the Tea Party and your beloved GOP has already started to marginalize them.
If we continue our current course this is not going to end well. So we have a choice, be bold and do the right thing based on principles and values or...continue the “normal” political approach where we have to compromise our principles, ignore our values and accepts lies. How has that become the “norm”.
Everyone has just become way too comfortable with evil and apathy and now we even call repugnant things “normal”.
And you know it isn’t even about being bold...the American voter just need to find the courage to do the right thing and actually decide they want to stand for something.
In the last election, we made a lot of headway. You might have grounds to complain if the country voted for more of the same last year.
Instead, you are screaming at the GOP to basically let the problems fester and get worse. There are actions the GOP can take now - cut spending, de-fund Obamacare, get rid of the 1099 requirements - that will be a good starting point.