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Social Security’s Trust Fund Headed For Bust In 2035
IBD's Capital Hill ^ | 2/8/2011 | Jed Graham

Posted on 02/09/2011 7:29:34 AM PST by Slyscribe

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To: Slyscribe

The promissory notes are a promise to confiscate the needed funds from the unwilling at gunpoint until 2035.

...at which point they will decide that the “at gunpoint” method of fundraising was rather effective, and continue doing so indefinitely.


21 posted on 02/09/2011 8:11:17 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: evad; lurk; bert; Las Vegas Dave; neoconservative; Pontiac; proudmilitarymrs; kristinn; HiJinx
They busted into the SS system in the mid 60s, and took it to the general fund, IIRC.

We ought to take all those bastards out and shoot them.

Wait, most of them are already dead.

never mind.............

22 posted on 02/09/2011 8:22:34 AM PST by North Coast Conservative (If this be treason, make the most of it. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Vaduz
Indeed new retirement age will be 90 by the time congress gets done with SS.

Excellent.

With the new life expectancy at 65, that should work out perfectly.

23 posted on 02/09/2011 8:23:21 AM PST by evad (Every time a RINO is defeated, a liberal cries)
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To: screaminsunshine

True but I remember stories during Bubba admin of children being certified by teachers for SSDI en masse. Hardly disabled workers.


24 posted on 02/09/2011 8:24:02 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: North Coast Conservative
Wait, most of them are already dead. never mind.............

Dig em up...shoot em anyway.

They can serve as an example.

25 posted on 02/09/2011 8:24:57 AM PST by evad (Every time a RINO is defeated, a liberal cries)
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To: screaminsunshine
Grab your wallet and head for the hills.

Haven't we been doing that? And, won't we be doing that at an accelerated pace? Maybe it should be grab your gun and head for the hills or a ship loaded with tea!

26 posted on 02/09/2011 8:25:54 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: bassmaner
"Seriously, if anyone in DC had any stones.."

BIG "IF".

They don't exist.

27 posted on 02/09/2011 8:26:46 AM PST by evad (Every time a RINO is defeated, a liberal cries)
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To: evad
actually.....that should be the new formula for SS

1--compute the average life expectancy
2--add 1 year to it
3--this becomes the new SS eligibility age

28 posted on 02/09/2011 8:29:32 AM PST by evad (Every time a RINO is defeated, a liberal cries)
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To: North Coast Conservative

“They busted into the SS system in the mid 60s, and took it to the general fund, IIRC.”

Yep. The “Great Society” cost a lot of money that LBJ didn’t have, so he took it from wherever he could and printed the rest (hence the double-digit inflation that didn’t get under control until a REAL president was elected to office in 1980).


29 posted on 02/09/2011 8:33:22 AM PST by DrC
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To: Slyscribe
Harry Ried stated the other day that the SS trust fund will support SS through 2050. The interviewer stated, the arithmetic works out? And Harry Reid responded yes!

Well Harry, your math is correct, but you economics are abominable!

In short, the "Trust" fund's only investment are US Treasuries. This is the equivalent of an individual with a large 401(k), but the only investment is loans to himself. Mathematically, his 4019(k) has a lot of money, but economically, he isn't retiring.

Doubly worse for the US economy is that as the SSA cashes in its bonds, the composition of US public debt will become more and more be held by private creditors rather than public creditors. This is because the US is not running annual budget surplus to buy the SSA bonds. The US government must "refinance" these bonds. This will put a huge strain on the credit markets and jeopardize the US credit rating.

So if an individual can't retire under these circumstances, neither can the promised recipients of social security. This means higher retirement age, means testing, reduced or zero COLA's.

30 posted on 02/09/2011 8:46:47 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: evad

In the early days of Social Security the “1 year” you have in Step 2 was more like 4 or 5 years.

Life expectancy around 60, retirement age 65.


31 posted on 02/09/2011 8:47:24 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Slyscribe

WE own millions of acres and other property but not a word is uttered about disposing of some of it to appovered buyers/leasers.


32 posted on 02/09/2011 8:52:58 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: bassmaner

One has a better chance with the lottery than with SS.


33 posted on 02/09/2011 9:03:44 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: evad

Agree I think it’s the plan keep the tax payer working until they drop dead on the job so they don’t have to pay out any healthcare.


34 posted on 02/09/2011 9:06:18 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Slyscribe

Get ready for the FICA tax to be extended to every last penny of income. It will happen, I’m convinced of it. The public will to do anything else just does not seem to be out there.


35 posted on 02/09/2011 9:12:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Marathoner
If I make $10,000, I get $200 extra. If I make $20,000, I get $400. But if I'm actually on SS, I get "0" cost of living increase even though ALL my costs have gone up.
36 posted on 02/09/2011 9:15:03 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Marty62

I agree SS is a scam. But age groups do NOT decline post BB’ers. They stay the same.

See

http://www.census.gov/population/www/projections/files/SummaryTabB1.pdf


37 posted on 02/09/2011 9:17:46 AM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: biggerten

What am I missing? Seems by 2030 the younger age groups drop drastically.

363,584,435

.Under 5 years
24,271,894

.5 to 13 years
42,626,829

.14 to 17 years
18,808,574
.
18 to 24 years
32,532,779

.25 to 44 years
91,610,717

45 to 64 years
82,280,171
.
65 years and over
71,453,471


38 posted on 02/09/2011 9:47:07 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Marty62

All those are bigger than now, I see no drop.


39 posted on 02/09/2011 10:31:11 AM PST by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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