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Refudiating “Does Sarah Palin Support Gay Rights?”
The New Civil Rights Movement ^ | February 9, 2011 | David Badash

Posted on 02/09/2011 8:35:02 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a dangerous meme making its way across the Internets: “Does Sarah Palin support gay rights?” thanks to her almost-Libertarian response to gay GOP group GOProud’s attendance at this weekend’s CPAC. The Alaska Dispatch, writing at Huffington Post, reports Palin “told the Christian Broadcasting Network that it was a ‘scheduling conflict’ that prevented her appearance, not GOProud’s presence at the convention. And she went one step further, telling CBN that conference attendees should not so quickly dismiss the opportunity to provide a full spectrum of conservatism. News website POLITICO reports Palin alluded to the controversy that GOProud’s inclusion at the conference had caused for conservatives.”

“‘Should the GOP, should conservatives not reach out to others, not participate in events and forums that… maybe we don’t personally agree with? And I say no… I look at participation in an event like CPAC or any other event in that same vein as the more information that people have the better,’ Palin told CBN.”

But then they write, “Palin has mostly left her support or opposition to gay rights ‘open to interpretation.’ Last month, Palin re-tweeted a gay conservative’s post that was critical of the GOP’s ardent opposition to the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,’ calling it ‘hypocrisy.’”

And so let’s stop right here and “refudiate” yet another example of journalistic malpractice.

It’s called “Google,” people, and you can use it to do something many journalists evidently have forgotten is in their job description: research.

(Or, you can just spend all your time here at The New Civil Rights Movement, where we do the research so you don’t have to.)

After the whole Palin retweet of Tammy Bruce’s DADT comment fiasco, I did a fair amount of research and wrote, “So, Where DOES Sarah Palin Stand On Gay Rights?” Here are a few highlights:

So, here you go. Sarah Palin’s positions on gay rights:

Sarah Palin is against same-sex marriage:

■Palin has said, “I am pro-life and I believe that marriage should only be between and man and a woman.” (Campaign website, www.palinforgovernor.com, “Issues” Nov 7, 2006) ■“Ms. Palin said she supported Alaska’s decision to amend its Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. But she used her first veto as governor to block a bill that would have prohibited the state from granting health benefits to same-sex partners of public employees.” (New York Times) ■“Here’s what Sarah Palin has to say about same-sex marriage. Palin said she’s not out to judge anyone and has good friends who are gay, but that she supported the 1998 constitutional amendment.” “Elected officials can’t defy the court when it comes to how rights are applied, she said, but she would support a ballot question that would deny benefits to homosexual couples. “I believe that honoring the family structure is that important,” Palin said. She said she doesn’t know if people choose to be gay.” (Anchorage Daily News, viaOnTheIssues) Sarah Palin is against spousal benefits for same-sex couples:

Q: Do you support the Alaska Supreme Court’s ruling that spousal benefits for state employees should be given to same-sex couples?

A: No, I believe spousal benefits are reserved for married citizens as defined in our constitution.

Q: In relationship to families, what are your top three priorities if elected governor?

A: 1. Creating an atmosphere where parents feel welcome to choose the venues of education for their children. 2. Preserving the definition of “marriage” as defined in our constitution. 3. Cracking down on the things that harm family life: gangs, drug use, and infringement of our liberties including attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights. (Eagle Forum 2006 Gubernatorial Candidate Questionnaire Jul 31, 2006)

Sarah Palin is on the record against “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” repeal:

For the record, Palin came out last year against repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” although she suggested her first concern about repeal was the timing — “I don’t think so right now… And I say that because there are other things to be worried about right now with the military. I think that kind of on the back burner, is sufficient for now.”

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Palin is not on the record as for or against ENDA, but given all her other positions, I would bet she’s against that, too.

Bottom line, Sarah Palin is not the blank slate the media assumes. She’s made her positions very clear. She is anti-gay, and is on the record as being so.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dadt; dontaskdonttell; enda; freepressforpalin; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; palin; sarahpalin; wherespissant
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1 posted on 02/09/2011 8:35:07 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you!


2 posted on 02/09/2011 8:39:29 AM PST by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would say more anti-gay agenda than anti-gay.


3 posted on 02/09/2011 8:39:48 AM PST by unseen1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why didn’t she just say that when asked in the interview with CBN?

It should have been easy. Why do others have to look up what should have been an easy answer to a question?


4 posted on 02/09/2011 8:40:09 AM PST by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Palin is anti-gay.”


5 posted on 02/09/2011 8:41:57 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks be to God.


6 posted on 02/09/2011 8:43:18 AM PST by altura
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To: indylindy

Why are you whining?

All Americans have rights.

Even gay Americans have the basic rights guaranteed under the constitution even the right to free speech and opinions.

If she said anything different from that I don’t know what it was.


7 posted on 02/09/2011 8:45:22 AM PST by altura
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Does Sarah Palin Support Gay Rights?”

A lot probably depends on how one defines "gay rights." Are we talking equal rights or special rights?

8 posted on 02/09/2011 8:47:57 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

You get a gold star for perspicacity.


9 posted on 02/09/2011 8:50:25 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
THe factual information from the post is useful, but i wouldn't be taking "lessons" in what Sarah Palin believes about something from the web site you have gotten this information from.

Just saying that I wouldn't necessarily trust the judgment of a blogger who previously posted the blog entry Like a rug, Sarah Palin is a Liar.

The pro-gay blogs have a reason to want to paint Sarah Palin in the worst possible light. I wouldn't give them the rope to hang her with, by pretending they are a useful source of opinion on her views.

Much better to just let her explain her position. I have a feeling she is not nearly as "anti-gay" as some of her supporters are. You don't have to be against gays to be against gays in the military, or be for traditional marriage. But until she makes it clear, I don't think we'll know one way or another.

10 posted on 02/09/2011 8:50:47 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: indylindy

The message is obvious. Why didn’t she say it? Because that would give the enemedia something to spin and smear with for the next two years.

Palin hates gays! Palin is intolerant! Etc., etc.

No, Palin doesn’t hate gays. As a good Christian, she wishes them well. In fact, she wishes them better.

What she will not support is gay rights ACTIVISTS, especially those pretending to be conservatives while busy kidnapping CPAC (which, I am afraid, is all too eager to go along with it).


11 posted on 02/09/2011 8:50:53 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin’s first concern about DADT is timing, not the policy itself.

I’m not impressed with her punting the issue off into the future.


12 posted on 02/09/2011 8:52:10 AM PST by Padams
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

REFUDIATE = a combination of refute and repudiate? To do so especially DEFINITIVELY? Good word! Hehe.


13 posted on 02/09/2011 8:52:46 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: MEGoody
A lot probably depends on how one defines "gay rights." Are we talking equal rights or special rights?
Really? You really had to ask that?
14 posted on 02/09/2011 8:54:46 AM PST by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 1_Rain_Drop; 4woodenboats; 6323cd; Abbeville Conservative; abigail2; ...
SARAH PALIN'S PING LIST

15 posted on 02/09/2011 8:54:46 AM PST by Clyde5445 (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Depends how one defines “gay rights”.

If that means the right to be left alone and live their lives free of harassment, then yes, a whole lot of Conservatives would support gay rights.

If it means doing damage to the culture through things like “gay marriage” and adoption rights, then we do not.


16 posted on 02/09/2011 8:55:05 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: altura
What a totally ignorant response.

Did I say any person does not have rights? Let me go look......Nope, you must be worried or something.

If she said anything different from that I don’t know what it was.

You and me both. And apparently many others didn't have a clue what it was or else there would be no need for someone to look it up.

17 posted on 02/09/2011 8:55:13 AM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy

Maybe it is because she has made her position so clear in the past, and that she did not recognize the effort by democrats and RINO’s to smear her as pro gay.
GOPride’s only purpose is to cause trouble in the conservative ranks. It is a democrat Trojan Horse.


18 posted on 02/09/2011 8:56:14 AM PST by MCF
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To: Cicero

If that is what she thinks, she had the opportunity to say it then when asked the question.

Taking a stand show character. She will be asked this again and you know it. Only difference is the questioner may not be friendly.


19 posted on 02/09/2011 8:58:30 AM PST by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RE: GAY “RIGHTS”

I’ve never understood the need for more “RIGHTS” for homosexuals. What rights do they not have that all Americans have?


20 posted on 02/09/2011 9:00:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: MCF

I would not consider CBN trying to smear her as being pro gay. She is buddies with Tammy Bruce. She has been unclear on DADT repeal.

I don’t think she would be for gay marriage. The other stuff is cloudy as usual.


21 posted on 02/09/2011 9:02:01 AM PST by dforest
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To: 2harddrive

It is a good word.

So good it was named the new word of the year by the New Oxford American Dictionary.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/11/sarah-palin-refudiate.html


22 posted on 02/09/2011 9:04:23 AM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hate to see conservative writers surrender to the homosexual agenda by using the word “gay” to mean homosexual.


23 posted on 02/09/2011 9:04:31 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

homos dont have rights. where is my right to use gay? [happy] to use fag? [cigarette]


24 posted on 02/09/2011 9:04:36 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: Monterrosa-24

Yep, I refuse to cater to the language bastardization of the left.

Homosexual bums living in a jungle or a swamp are not
“gays” living in a “rain forest” or a “wetlands”.


25 posted on 02/09/2011 9:06:38 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

oops, left out one

Homosexual bums living in a jungle or a swamp are not
“gay” “homeless people” living in a “rain forest” or a “wetlands”.


26 posted on 02/09/2011 9:07:15 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"No, I believe spousal benefits are reserved for married citizens as defined in our constitution."

Sarah Palin is against spousal benefits for same-sex couples

But she used her first veto as governor to block a bill that would have prohibited the state from granting health benefits to same-sex partners of public employees.”

So which is it?

27 posted on 02/09/2011 9:08:27 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: indylindy

Well, that’s nice. Thanks for posting.


28 posted on 02/09/2011 9:11:31 AM PST by altura
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, Sarah Palin does Support Gay Rights.

1) The right to own a firearm for self defense
2) The right to trial by jury
3) The right to free speech
4) The right to worship in the religion of their choice
5) The right to free assembly

The homosexuals have the same rights as the rest of us.

What the homosexuals want are special privileges.


29 posted on 02/09/2011 9:12:02 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Palin on GOProud:

“Well, I’ve never attended a CPAC conference ever so I was a little taken aback this go around when I couldn’t make it to this one either and then there was a speculation well I either agree or disagree with some of the groups or issues that CPAC is discussing. It really is a matter of time for me. But when it comes to and David, perhaps what it is that you’re suggesting in the question is should the GOP, should conservatives not reach out to others, not participate in events or forums that perhaps are rising within those forums are issues that maybe we don’t personally agree with? And I say no, it’s like you being on a panel shoot, with a bunch of the liberal folks whom you have been on and you provide good information and balance, and you allow for healthy debate, which is needed in order for people to gather information and make up their own minds about issues. I look at participation in an event like CPAC or any other event, along, or kind of in that same vein as the more information that people have the better.”

Conservatives can find someone more principled with better judgment that is more electable than Palin. Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain and Jim DeMint to name a few come to mind.

30 posted on 02/09/2011 9:13:11 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see anything here that says she is anti-gay. She doesn’t support their agenda but that doesn’t mean she is against gay people.


31 posted on 02/09/2011 9:14:34 AM PST by misterrob (Thug Life....now showing at a White House near you....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Athough I agree Palin is probably against gay marriage, I think she’s being a bit coy here and playing both sides of the gay rights thingy. I’m not going to get down on her on this as every politician does this to some degree on certain issues. I’m convinced her sincere political stance is the Christian conservative one until I see strong evidence to the contrary. I don’t think that’s going to happen.


32 posted on 02/09/2011 9:19:28 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Cicero
As a good Christian, she wishes them well. In fact, she wishes them better.

By supporting their infiltration of CPAC and the conservative movement?

Nothing good comes from allowing a group like GOProud, whose sole objective is promote a homosexual political agenda, in the conservative tent. Palin, unwisely, supports them being allowed in the tent.

33 posted on 02/09/2011 9:19:49 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: indylindy; 2ndDivisionVet
Why do others have to look up what should have been an easy answer to a question?

You make an excellent point.

Why should it even be necessary to dig around with Google and do "research" and parse together old quotes to try to figure out Palin's positions on such front-and-center issues as "gay marriage", taxpayer-funded "spousal" benefits for same sex "unions", and DADT? It is troublesome, to say the least.

34 posted on 02/09/2011 9:21:15 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Vice Presidential debate against Sen. Joe Biden Oct 2, 2008

Q: Do you support, as they do in Alaska, granting same-sex benefits to couples?

BIDEN: Absolutely positively. Absolutely no distinction from a legal standpoint between a same-sex and a heterosexual couple. That’s only fair.

Q: Would you support expanding that beyond Alaska to the rest of the nation?

PALIN: Well, not if it goes closer and closer towards redefining the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. And unfortunately that’s sometimes where those steps lead. I don’t support defining marriage as anything but between one man and one woman, and I think through nuances we can go round and round about what that actually means. I’m being as straight up with Americans as I can in my non- support for anything but a traditional definition of marriage.

Q: Let’s try to avoid nuance. Do you support gay marriage?

BIDEN: No. We do not support that. That is a decision to be able to be left to faiths.
PALIN: My answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.

from Tammy Bruce Retweet Or Not, PROOF Sarah Palin Is Anti-Gay

35 posted on 02/09/2011 9:22:46 AM PST by McGruff (If you tell a lie enough times some people will come to believe it.)
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To: circlecity
Do you think the "Christian conservative" stance is an electoral winner?

If so, why should Palin hide her light under a bushel?

If not, should she dissemble about her views in order to be elected?

36 posted on 02/09/2011 9:25:01 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Lancey Howard

Palin’s official, stated position on same-sex marriage is effectively the same as Barack Obama’s.


37 posted on 02/09/2011 9:27:03 AM PST by Notary Sojac (We have had three central banks in America's history: two of them failed and so will this one....)
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To: Notary Sojac
"Do you think the "Christian conservative" stance is an electoral winner?"

That depends entirely on the person taking such a stance. No I don't think any politician should dissemble about their views but every single politician clearly thinks it's necessary to do at times. The political process corrupts every one who enters the ring to some degree and I hope the effect is minimal with Sarah.

38 posted on 02/09/2011 9:31:26 AM PST by circlecity
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To: CharlesWayneCT

agreed. she is a consititutional conservative.


39 posted on 02/09/2011 9:49:30 AM PST by unseen1
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To: Notary Sojac
Palin’s official, stated position on same-sex marriage is effectively the same as Barack Obama’s.

But Ubama's position was stated only for campaign purposes, and everybody - - including the sodomites - - knew it was a lie. That's why the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms and the sodomites winked and shrugged it off during the 2008 campaign.

40 posted on 02/09/2011 9:50:21 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah is an evangelical Christian and I’m pretty sure that she is on God’s side in this matter, despite what some of FR’s in-house PDS’ers desperately want people to believe.

As for GOProud, I’m equally sure that it was not even on her radar screen until certain troublemakers decided to put it there this past weekend.


41 posted on 02/09/2011 9:52:20 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Ol' Sparky
Nothing good comes from allowing a group like GOProud, whose sole objective is promote a homosexual political agenda, in the conservative tent.

I agree with you there, which is why I'm disappointed that both Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain are featured speakers at CPAC. Jim DeMint has taken an unambigous stand against CPAC, which I appreciate him for having done. However, I'm disappointed that Jim DeMint came out publicly this week saying that Jeb Bush would make a great president.

Palin, DeMint and Bachmann are (for now) my three preferred candidates. The lesson here is that the perfect is the enemy of the good. All three of them have said or done things that have disappointed me, none of them are perfect. But any one of them is better than Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich, Giuliani, or others who have made noises about running.

42 posted on 02/09/2011 9:53:23 AM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: Lancey Howard
the veto was in response to a court order. You know like the ones that Obama is disregarding and being held in contempt of court over. Palin said if AK wanted to deny same-sex couples the court said they would have to pass an amendment. She urged the AK state house to do just that and vetoed the bill on the grounds of it being unconstitutional as defined by the court.
43 posted on 02/09/2011 9:55:37 AM PST by unseen1
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To: unseen1

Hmph.. I prefer a governor who has the guts to recognize co-equal branches of government and does not necessarily cede the top of the food chain to small panels of unelected men in black (”the courts”).


44 posted on 02/09/2011 10:15:59 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ROFLMAO


45 posted on 02/09/2011 10:38:08 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Padams
I’m not impressed with her punting the issue off into the future.

Surprise... Surprise

46 posted on 02/09/2011 10:38:45 AM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just think its funny to see all the attempts to contort Palin’s statements into either an anti-gay or pro-gay message. All I can say is that either a large group of Christian Conservative Palin supporters or a large group of Libertarian Palin supporters are going to end up very disappointed.

While this is just speculation, my hunch is that she has a Reagan-like position on gays. Oppose laws that actively discriminate against them (such as laws that criminalize homosexual conduct) but is not willing to give gays special rights. She probably hasn’t thought out how that would apply to various laws and policies too deeply.


47 posted on 02/09/2011 10:50:44 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/2010/12/dont-ask-dont-tell-where-do-potential-2012-candidates-stand-on-gays-in-the-military/#

I like Sarah, but she - and others - was AWOL on the repeal of DADT when it could have a difference.


48 posted on 02/09/2011 10:56:28 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: lewislynn
Really? You really had to ask that?

Oh, no. I knew the answer. In my head, I was saying it with a snort, if you know what I mean.

49 posted on 02/09/2011 11:14:00 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Cicero
Because that would give the enemedia something to spin and smear with for the next two years.

EXACTLY!! Unless it comes out of her mouth, I don't believe it. They will spin even her own words - and she knows it and we know it. Some still don't get that!
50 posted on 02/09/2011 11:17:18 AM PST by presently no screen name
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