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Refudiating “Does Sarah Palin Support Gay Rights?”
The New Civil Rights Movement ^ | February 9, 2011 | David Badash

Posted on 02/09/2011 8:35:02 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a dangerous meme making its way across the Internets: “Does Sarah Palin support gay rights?” thanks to her almost-Libertarian response to gay GOP group GOProud’s attendance at this weekend’s CPAC. The Alaska Dispatch, writing at Huffington Post, reports Palin “told the Christian Broadcasting Network that it was a ‘scheduling conflict’ that prevented her appearance, not GOProud’s presence at the convention. And she went one step further, telling CBN that conference attendees should not so quickly dismiss the opportunity to provide a full spectrum of conservatism. News website POLITICO reports Palin alluded to the controversy that GOProud’s inclusion at the conference had caused for conservatives.”

“‘Should the GOP, should conservatives not reach out to others, not participate in events and forums that… maybe we don’t personally agree with? And I say no… I look at participation in an event like CPAC or any other event in that same vein as the more information that people have the better,’ Palin told CBN.”

But then they write, “Palin has mostly left her support or opposition to gay rights ‘open to interpretation.’ Last month, Palin re-tweeted a gay conservative’s post that was critical of the GOP’s ardent opposition to the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,’ calling it ‘hypocrisy.’”

And so let’s stop right here and “refudiate” yet another example of journalistic malpractice.

It’s called “Google,” people, and you can use it to do something many journalists evidently have forgotten is in their job description: research.

(Or, you can just spend all your time here at The New Civil Rights Movement, where we do the research so you don’t have to.)

After the whole Palin retweet of Tammy Bruce’s DADT comment fiasco, I did a fair amount of research and wrote, “So, Where DOES Sarah Palin Stand On Gay Rights?” Here are a few highlights:

So, here you go. Sarah Palin’s positions on gay rights:

Sarah Palin is against same-sex marriage:

■Palin has said, “I am pro-life and I believe that marriage should only be between and man and a woman.” (Campaign website, www.palinforgovernor.com, “Issues” Nov 7, 2006) ■“Ms. Palin said she supported Alaska’s decision to amend its Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. But she used her first veto as governor to block a bill that would have prohibited the state from granting health benefits to same-sex partners of public employees.” (New York Times) ■“Here’s what Sarah Palin has to say about same-sex marriage. Palin said she’s not out to judge anyone and has good friends who are gay, but that she supported the 1998 constitutional amendment.” “Elected officials can’t defy the court when it comes to how rights are applied, she said, but she would support a ballot question that would deny benefits to homosexual couples. “I believe that honoring the family structure is that important,” Palin said. She said she doesn’t know if people choose to be gay.” (Anchorage Daily News, viaOnTheIssues) Sarah Palin is against spousal benefits for same-sex couples:

Q: Do you support the Alaska Supreme Court’s ruling that spousal benefits for state employees should be given to same-sex couples?

A: No, I believe spousal benefits are reserved for married citizens as defined in our constitution.

Q: In relationship to families, what are your top three priorities if elected governor?

A: 1. Creating an atmosphere where parents feel welcome to choose the venues of education for their children. 2. Preserving the definition of “marriage” as defined in our constitution. 3. Cracking down on the things that harm family life: gangs, drug use, and infringement of our liberties including attacks on our 2nd Amendment rights. (Eagle Forum 2006 Gubernatorial Candidate Questionnaire Jul 31, 2006)

Sarah Palin is on the record against “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” repeal:

For the record, Palin came out last year against repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” although she suggested her first concern about repeal was the timing — “I don’t think so right now… And I say that because there are other things to be worried about right now with the military. I think that kind of on the back burner, is sufficient for now.”

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Palin is not on the record as for or against ENDA, but given all her other positions, I would bet she’s against that, too.

Bottom line, Sarah Palin is not the blank slate the media assumes. She’s made her positions very clear. She is anti-gay, and is on the record as being so.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dadt; dontaskdonttell; enda; freepressforpalin; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; palin; sarahpalin; wherespissant
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To: Monterrosa-24

The writers here consider homosexual “rights” to be the New Civil Rights Movement, hence the name of their site. I doubt if they’re conservative in any sense that you and I would use that word.


51 posted on 02/09/2011 12:03:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can NAMBLA participate in FudgePAC if they espouse fiscal conservatism? Come on, we need the full spectrum...


52 posted on 02/09/2011 12:04:44 PM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Watch your back, 'Vet. It is no longer kosher on FR, apparently, to defend Sarah Palin. I was dogpiled on another thread yesterday for defending her on this issue.

The media's drumbeat against Palin has power, even here on FR. Many so-called conservatives will throw her under the bus in a heartbeat if they detect her supporting liberty for all.

53 posted on 02/09/2011 12:41:12 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Lancey Howard

“But she used her first veto as governor to block a bill that would have prohibited the state from granting health benefits to same-sex partners of public employees.”

The AK Supreme Court had ruled an equivalent law to be unconstitutional, so she was following her sworn constitutional duty. I like to see a chief executive follow the Constitution when it conflicts with his/her own personal beliefs.


54 posted on 02/09/2011 1:29:33 PM PST by 17ks
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To: wtc911

Have you read her books or listened to her talk on this subject at all? She is NOT “anti-gay”. She IS against gays being “more equal than others” or to call their romantic relationships marriage in order to use the legal system to force them into healthcare, benefits, etc.


55 posted on 02/09/2011 1:33:49 PM PST by jdsteel (I like the way the words "Palin for President" drive progressives absolutely crazy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She gave the same answer as Moot Romney on DADT. That is very discouraging.


56 posted on 02/09/2011 1:41:33 PM PST by Antoninus (Fair warning: If Romney's the GOP nominee in 2012, I'm looking for a new party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Perhaps she is running for President...I sure hope and pray.

Sarah Palin is a true Christian! True Christians KNOW that Homosexuality is a sin, I know
it, most of you know it, and Sarah knows it.

Would some want her to run on a hell fire and brimstone platform? Hell is a reality, but she wont be elected if she says people that do not share her faith are going to burn in hell.

She would and will get my vote, but I do not think it is the way to become President.

I think some are just trying to cause trouble.

I think her record speaks for itself, she is pro life/pro family and she Loves God/Christ.

57 posted on 02/09/2011 1:42:17 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2012 or bust)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Sorry, I thought it was obvious. As a Christian Sarah wishes them well—and truly wishing them well means that she wishes they will change their ways and stop doing all that perverted sex.

They may or may not be able to seek counseling and change their orientation, but any decent Christian should hope that they would try to stop sinning and destroying themselves.

I thought the meaning was evident.


58 posted on 02/09/2011 2:17:54 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Friendofgeorge
Homosexuality is not the only sin in the world. Greed, avarice, hate, covetousness, murder, licentiousness and on and on. Why do we focus only on one sin and it's practitioners?
59 posted on 02/09/2011 2:27:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Lincoln)
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To: jdsteel

Did you read the article? I was quoting the author (that’s why I used “). The article finished with Palin is anti-gay. Take it up with the writer or the one who posted it.


60 posted on 02/09/2011 2:57:49 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

yep, but missed your point. Sorry!


61 posted on 02/09/2011 3:47:26 PM PST by jdsteel (I like the way the words "Palin for President" drive progressives absolutely crazy.)
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To: Cicero
As a Christian Sarah wishes them well—and truly wishing them well means that she wishes they will change their ways and stop doing all that perverted sex.

How is supporting homosexuals infiltrating CPAC and the conservative movement accomplishing that?

62 posted on 02/09/2011 3:47:45 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: 17ks

“Equivalent”, huh?
Sarah Palin knew better than the entire Alaska legislature what was “Constitutional” or not? Horse manure. No sale. She could have signed it and let the homos test it in court.


63 posted on 02/09/2011 4:54:10 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Homosexuality is not the only sin in the world. Greed, avarice, hate, covetousness, murder, licentiousness and on and on. Why do we focus only on one sin and it's practitioners?

Because the homos have brought the battle to us. If you can show me groups who advocate special status for - - and encourage elementary school children to be supportive of - - greed, avarice, hate, covetousness, murder, and licentiousness, then we can "focus" on those sins and their practitioners, too.

64 posted on 02/09/2011 4:58:59 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
hmmmm.

you do know that those small panels of unelected men in black are a CO-EQUAL branch of government right? and that it's main duty is to make sure the other two branches follow the Constitution? Which is why they are not elected so they can be immune from politics and follow the letter of the law irregardless of the winds of which political party is in power.

So you are fine with Obama disregarding the courts ruling that Obamacare is unconstitutional? And him disregarding the courts ruling on offshore drilling? Maybe you like Obama's "guts" to not cede the top of the food-chain to the judges. Damn the Constitution and the rule of law.

65 posted on 02/09/2011 5:29:09 PM PST by unseen1
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To: Ol' Sparky

You seem determined to misunderstand. Palin is NOT supporting GOProud. She was invited to give the keynote speach at CPAC but declined to do so.


66 posted on 02/09/2011 5:30:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; stephenjohnbanker; pissant; calcowgirl; DoughtyOne; indylindy; OldDeckHand; LMAO; ..
RE :” Here endeth the lesson.

Here's another lesson:

HOW TO ANSWER A QUESTION IF YOU WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND ON IT:

CBN Question :” Do you think conservative groups should boycott conventions where homosexuals are invited to trot out their homosexual agenda on stage?

Right Answer: “Some will boycott out of moral principles and that is perfectly acceptable to do. Others may still want to go to convince others of our conservative views; but they must make it absolutely clear that the homosexual agenda is ANTI-CONSERVATIVE and ANTI-FAMILY and that they (conservatives) will not sit and listen to those liberal views getting the spotlight on stage.

Wrong Answer :”What we ‘shouldn't’do is ‘not’ reach out to homosexuals by ‘not’ participating events where they trot out their homosexual agenda. I hope the double negative keeps some of you from following my answer so I can have a big tent and both sides will like me.

A Palinista clears it up today: ” Gov. Palin is an attractive candidate and she will attract lesbian and gay support as well. She has advocates in both communities and probably will make every effort to make all voters comfortable with her....ref #26

Attractive to homosexuals?? Comfortable?? I am glad I don't live on Planet-Palinista.

67 posted on 02/09/2011 6:37:28 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: unseen1
Which is why they are not elected so they can be immune from politics and follow the letter of the law irregardless of the winds of which political party is in power.

LMAO! You're a joke, right?

68 posted on 02/09/2011 6:56:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Laugh if you want but that is the reason they are unelected.

Does it work? at times....more so then if they had to run for office.


69 posted on 02/09/2011 7:24:48 PM PST by unseen1
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To: unseen1
...it's main duty is to make sure the other two branches follow the Constitution?

Then why do so many scoff at the Constitution, and belittle and ignore that outdated old piece of parchment? Why do they consider it a "living document" which is (therefore) essentially meaningless and can be rewritten on a whim based on the chic political correctness of the day?

Which is why they are not elected so they can be immune from politics and follow the letter of the law irregardless of the winds of which political party is in power.

If they are so concerned with the "letter of the law", then why are there so many 5 - 4 decisions?

You go ahead and worship the judges and the courts if you wish. As for me, I will continue to admire elected leaders who follow the "letter of the law" and the Constitution as written and intended by the founders, and who tell the leftist scum whose primary objective is to destroy the Constitution and everything it stands for to go play in the street. And I will continue to piss on elected officials who bow down before the courts like lessers.

FRegards,
LH

70 posted on 02/09/2011 7:40:07 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Clyde5445
Excellent research. As Ronald Reagan said, "facts are stupid things!"


71 posted on 02/09/2011 8:19:12 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Lancey Howard
Why because they are humans and humans are fallen. No one is a saint.

And it is why the founders made the other two branches to counter act an out of control supreme court. If they don't like a ruling they can pass an amendment to overrule the court. Which is exactly what Gov Palin told the AK house to do. It's called checks and balances. Two elected branches one unelected but confirmed branch. Each with equal but separate powers to cancel each others over reach.

Is it perfect? No but it has worked pretty good for a couple hundred years. Notice the power of the court has increased as the attempts to pass amendments have decreased?

As far as worshiping judges? I just understand unlike you that the court system is a needed branch in a Republic.

So you should be voting for Obama since he refuses to bow down to the courts. The strong dictator seems to be your preferred leader type...

72 posted on 02/09/2011 8:35:07 PM PST by unseen1
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To: unseen1
So you should be voting for Obama since he refuses to bow down to the courts.

Well, as much as I do respect Ubama for not automatically caving to judges, I certainly have no intention of ever voting for that communist piece of sh!+. Why would you even make such an idiotic suggestion?

73 posted on 02/09/2011 8:59:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Why? because the if you want a person to disregard an entire branch of government then you want a a person like Obama.

A constitutional conservative would never disrespect the document like that even when it goes against them....

74 posted on 02/09/2011 9:14:49 PM PST by unseen1
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To: Cicero

Excellent. Palin needs to hire you for her PR department. At the rate her words are picked apart and distorted, she needs a whole army of PR people.


75 posted on 02/10/2011 11:19:34 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Cicero; indylindy; Bigg Red; calcowgirl
RE :”No, Palin doesn’t hate gays. As a good Christian, she wishes them well. In fact, she wishes them better.

Yep, and a little more than many here assumed. It's looking like she wants to have her cake AND eat it too.

Here's a course she needs to take :HOW TO ANSWER A QUESTION IF YOU WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND ON IT:#67

76 posted on 02/10/2011 12:40:07 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: pissant; sickoflibs

Excuse #??

I lost track......... ;-)


77 posted on 02/10/2011 3:27:21 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: sickoflibs; pissant; calcowgirl; DoughtyOne; indylindy; OldDeckHand

” Attractive to homosexuals?? Comfortable?? I am glad I don’t live on Planet-Palinista. “

Planet Palin....

Home to

1) “registration” amnesty

2) Carbon credits

3)Law Of The Sea Treaty


78 posted on 02/10/2011 3:36:44 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hangs head...

Yes, I know.

Shakes lowered head back and forth.


79 posted on 02/10/2011 3:41:01 PM PST by DoughtyOne (There once was a man named Barack, whose pediatrition refused to talk...)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

...and carte blanch to the McCain agenda.

Well, she helped get him back to D. C. for another six years. Nothing more to be said IMO.


80 posted on 02/10/2011 3:42:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (There once was a man named Barack, whose pediatrition refused to talk...)
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To: Lancey Howard

I think that’s a good response. It certainly works for me.


81 posted on 02/10/2011 3:45:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (There once was a man named Barack, whose pediatrition refused to talk...)
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To: sickoflibs
"Gov. Palin is an attractive candidate and she will attract lesbian and gay support as well.
She has advocates in both communities and probably will make every effort to make all voters comfortable with her...."

ROFL. That is some logic!

Just think how many voters she could attract if she started touting Marxism! Another winning strategy. /s

82 posted on 02/10/2011 5:09:01 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: calcowgirl
RE:”ROFL. That is some logic! Just think how many voters she could attract if she started touting Marxism! Another winning strategy. /s

This is getting MORE and more entertaining. The excuses are better than the statements. Will we see a ‘gay Republicans for Palin PAC’ next based on these comments here???

83 posted on 02/10/2011 6:32:40 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: DoughtyOne

” ...and carte blanch to the McCain agenda.

Well, she helped get him back to D. C. for another six years. Nothing more to be said IMO. “

Nope, nothing more.


84 posted on 02/14/2011 6:10:54 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yeah, not good.


85 posted on 02/14/2011 10:31:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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