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Efforts to verify workers continues to rankle in Minnesota
pioneer press ^ | 2-6-11 | julie forster

Posted on 02/09/2011 2:20:44 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB

Not being able to spare a slowdown if federal agents came combing for illegal workers, Ryt-way Industries signed onto a partnership with the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to ensure that the company's 1,000 workers — 40 percent of whom don't speak English — are legal. The program includes using E-verify, a centralized federal database to check whether documents produced by job candidates are legitimate. At first many documents came up as suspect. It happened, said Bolton, who is vice president of human resources, "quite often." It has improved and, as word spread among immigrant communities about the company's careful checking, Bolton says fewer false documents turn up.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; everify; hiring; illegal; illegals; jobs; mn; verify

1 posted on 02/09/2011 2:20:49 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I’m not seeing a problem here.


2 posted on 02/09/2011 2:26:20 PM PST by MeganC (Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Does this mean they are getting better at making the false documents?


3 posted on 02/09/2011 2:27:01 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: WOBBLY BOB
company's 1,000 workers — 40 percent of whom don't speak English

Swedish?

4 posted on 02/09/2011 2:28:23 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 750 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

No matter how the majority of US voters feel about this issue..the Federal and most State Govt’s are simply refusing to enforce the law and deport illegal workers and their families. They continue to play a pea and shell game with the public in the attempt to “appear” to be getting more effective.


5 posted on 02/09/2011 2:30:27 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“This approach involves penalizing or even prosecuting employers that knowingly hire and retain illegal workers and limiting the deportation of workers mainly to those who are deemed criminals”

Aren’t illegal immigrants by definition criminals?


6 posted on 02/09/2011 2:40:41 PM PST by Castigar
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To: WOBBLY BOB; null and void

Yah... vee aree sveedish

lol


7 posted on 02/09/2011 2:40:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: GeronL

Doncha know?


8 posted on 02/09/2011 2:43:02 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 750 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: NEMDF

Sad to say it probably means they use the false documents they originally submitted to get legitimate docs from the govt. After all,why turn is fakes if you have had real all along?


9 posted on 02/09/2011 2:45:40 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Who is being rankled? The illegals? If that's who is being rankled, tough. I think she gives herself away: "Enforcing the law is a process that remains enmeshed in controversy."
10 posted on 02/09/2011 2:46:43 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Wonder if a FReeper statistician can tell us the odds of a non-English speaking individual 16 years or older being a legal resident?

My off the top is less than 2 out of 10 (political asylum, State Dept programs, etc.).

The article - which ends with a sob story about an illegal entrant and her foreign born children - talks about firing "illegal workers" (no word about illegal entrants or aliens) and mentions none but the criminals are deported.

Talk about backdoor amnesty, the joke is on us.

11 posted on 02/09/2011 2:48:18 PM PST by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“Chipotle, with 1,200 employees at 50 outlets in Minnesota, fired hundreds of illegal immigrant workers here starting in December as a result of an audit. The Service Employees International Union Local 26, which has emerged as an advocate for the workers even though they aren’t union members, estimates that 700 workers lost their jobs. Although Chipotle disputes that estimate, it hasn’t provided its own number.”
SEIU gets to act as an advocate for those here illegally. Is 10% or 50% of that union comprised of illegals? Further it mentions 1200 of their members being fired some who had been stealing Americans jobs for 10 years. Its a joke they have any voice politically. Its tantamount to allowing Mexico to influence our elections.


12 posted on 02/09/2011 2:54:52 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: frog in a pot

They also mention they go ‘down the street’ for another job. Not all into the underground economy. So they get fired because they used fake documents and then use them again to find work at another firm. Does that pass the ‘criminal’ threshold? Does sending their children to our schools as non legal residents which depending on the state runs a cost of $10,000-$20,000 per year? Any social programs? What exactly does it take to quantify those actions as criminal?


13 posted on 02/09/2011 2:59:47 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
BooHoo Minnesotan scam rip-off anti-American companies.

Go cry to AL Franken

14 posted on 02/09/2011 3:04:03 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: NEMDF
Does this mean they are getting better at making the false documents?

Funny. That was my first thought as well.

15 posted on 02/09/2011 3:06:37 PM PST by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: wiggen

You raise a good point. We learn on another post a few minutes ago that an Ohio Mom was jailed after lying about her residency to get her daughters into a better school district. One can certainly distinguish the facts but the essence of the crime is the same.

There is something going on with giving illegal entrants a pass that us little people are not entitled to know about. It most likely has to do with money and corruption in high places.


16 posted on 02/09/2011 3:45:27 PM PST by frog in a pot (We need a working definition of "domestic enemies" if the oath of office is to have meaning.)
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To: GeronL

Vee are not all Sveedish. Some hjier are Njorveegin.


17 posted on 02/09/2011 4:51:31 PM PST by Qout
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To: Qout

lol


18 posted on 02/09/2011 6:17:18 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Oldexpat

One Business Filed 37,375 Bad W-2 Forms — and Is Getting Away With It

A single employer filed 37,375 W-2 forms in tax year 2005 on which the Social Security Number and the name did not match. These “no-match” W-2 forms often — but not always — represent an illegal-alien worker fraudulently using someone else’s Social Security number or a fake number.

An employer who files 37,375 no-match W-2s in one year is almost certainly employing many thousands of illegal aliens — and knows it.

Yet there is no indication our federal government has taken any action to stop this employer from continuing to employ mass numbers of illegal aliens.

The unemployment rate was 7.7 percent when President Barack Obama was inaugurated. It is now 9.5 percent.

The fact that a single employer filed 37,375 no-match W2s in 2005 was revealed in a virtually unnoticed Dec. 15, 2008, audit report from the inspector general of the Social Security Administration (SSA).

The purpose of this report was to examine the effectiveness of the so-called “Educational Correspondence” (EDCOR) that SSA sends out each year to all employers who file more than 10 no-match W-2s if those no-match W-2s also amount to at least one-half of one percent of the total number of W-2s filed by that employer.

These “no-match letters” list the Social Security numbers that were on the no-match W-2s the employer filed — but only to a maximum of 500 Social Security numbers. Thus, if an employer files 37,375 bad W-2s, the letter it receives from SSA lists only the first 500 bad Social Security Numbers, not the other 36,875.

According to the inspector general, there were about 1,650 employers that filed more than 500 no-match W-2s in 2005. In fact, these 1,650 employers filed a total of about 2.6 million no-match W-2s in 2005, meaning they filed an average of 1,576 per employer.

The champion was the employer that filed 37,375.

To those unfamiliar with this issue, this might seem like an astounding number. If you care to double-check it, go to the Website of the inspector general of the Social Security Administration and look up the December 2008 audit report titled, “Effectiveness of Educational Correspondence to Employers.” The number for the report is A-03-07-17105.

If President Obama cares to read the report, I would point him especially to page 7. “Our review found that about 1,650 employers with over 500 name/SSN no-matches had reported about 2.6 million no-matches to SSA,” it says. “They received EDCOR letters that included 907,000 of the no-matches. Consequently, they were not informed of about 1.7 million no-matches. These employers had reported no-matches that ranged from 501 to 37,375, and about 44 percent of the employers had reported SSA (sic) 1,000 or more no-matches to SSA.”

If recent history is a guide, it is not unprecedented for an employer to file tens of thousands of no-match W-2s in a single year. In October 2004, the SSA inspector general filed an audit report analyzing the 100 employers that had filed the largest number of bad W-2s in the five years from 1997-2001. The inspector general did not name these “Top 100” bad W-2 filers but did cite the states in which they were located.

America’s No. 1 filer of bad W-2s was an Illinois-based company that filed 131,991 no-match W-2s from 1997-2001, for an average of 26,398 per year. The No. 2 filer of bad W-2s was a Texas-based company that filed 108,302 no-match W-2s from 1997-2001, for an average of 21,600 per year.

The Illinois employer, according to the inspector general, paid $5.4 billion in wages to employees whose Social Security numbers did not match their names.

The employer could have been paying that money to Americans and permanent legal residents entitled to work in the U.S. who have valid Social Security numbers and are quite happy to give them to their employers.

SSA will not give the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) the names of the employers who file massive numbers of no-match W-2s because they say that is protected tax information under Section 6103 of the Internal Revenue Code. Under the George W. Bush administration, DHS promulgated a regulation that instructed employers in how they could find “safe harbor” from having SSA’s no-match letters used against them as evidence that they had knowingly hired illegal aliens. But a federal court in California suspended this regulation in 2008, and Secretary Napolitano rescinded it last year.

Rep. Steve King, the Iowa Republican, has introduced the New IDEA Act (HR 3580) that would make two key changes in federal tax law: It would prevent businesses from deducting from their taxable income the wages and benefits they pay illegal aliens, and it would make the IRS share information with DHS for enforcing immigration laws.

Congress should pass Steve King’s bill instead.

http://townhall.com/columnists/TerryJeffrey/2010/07/07/one_business_filed_37,375_bad_w-2_forms_—_and_is_getting_away_with_it


America’s No. 1 filer of bad W-2s was an Illinois-based company......

Geez.. what a shock.


19 posted on 02/10/2011 5:50:13 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


20 posted on 02/10/2011 8:17:25 AM PST by HiJinx (What new decade?)
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To: null and void

how about Somali?


21 posted on 02/10/2011 8:19:25 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: bert

Already have some, thanks...


22 posted on 02/10/2011 8:21:50 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 751 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: GeronL

"Yah... vee aree sveedish, Señ...[cough], I mean, Mister!"


23 posted on 02/10/2011 8:30:07 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: COBOL2Java

mmmm Swedish burrito for dinner!!


24 posted on 02/10/2011 9:29:24 AM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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