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Montana legislator proposes well regulated militia; CSGV shrieks 'Insurrection!'
St Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^
| 8 February, 2011
| Kurt Hoffman
Posted on 02/10/2011 3:47:02 AM PST by marktwain
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The MSM has tried to completely demonize the very idea of militias. In a Republic, they are essential.
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posted on
02/10/2011 3:47:10 AM PST
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
I hope Florida does the same. We will need it when the final collapse of the Federal Ponzi happens.
To: marktwain
Apparently, the CGSV doesn’t keep up with the decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States...
To: marktwain
Nazis hate the idea of armed Jews.
Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.
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posted on
02/10/2011 4:32:59 AM PST
by
The Comedian
(Muslim Brotherhood = A.N.S.W.E.R = Soros = Obama)
To: marktwain
"argument goes something like, "Because the text of the Second Amendment begins with a statement of the necessity of a well regulated militia, 'right of the people' doesn't really mean . . . 'right of the people,'" or something like that."
Another problem with their argument is the understanding of the word militia today compared to what it meant in 1791. It was a subsection of the citizenry. It was the citizenry who owned weapons, who were armed. In other words, if we wanted to change the second amendment into today's vernacular, it would go something like this:
A well trained armed citizenry being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
If you owned a gun back in 1791, you were in the militia. Our modern day national guard was borne out of the "Militia Act of 1903". In that law, it says there is the organized militia (national guard) and the unorganized militia. The unorganized militia is the citizenry.
To: marktwain
the very idea of militias... Isn't there just one militia here in the USA?
Article 1 Section 8 is singular: "... for calling forth the Militia..."
Article 2 Section 2 is singular: "... and of the Militia of the several States,..."
And, Amdt 2: "A well regulated Militia,..."
That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia, ... every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock....
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posted on
02/10/2011 4:41:20 AM PST
by
C210N
(0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
To: marktwain
Twenty-six states have an organized militia, paid for by the state. And no, it’s not the state national guard. The state calls them up in emergencies. The state pays militia members when activated.
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posted on
02/10/2011 4:50:21 AM PST
by
sergeantdave
(The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
To: screaminsunshine
“Federal Ponzi”
I’m sure someone has used this before.....But, this is my first time seeing it (be gentle with me)......”Federal Ponzi” is spot on.
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posted on
02/10/2011 5:05:42 AM PST
by
Puckster
To: Puckster
Well it is. Legal Ponzi scheme.
To: C210N
Constitution of the United States
Article I Section 8
The Congress shall have power to provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
The Congress shall have power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
Article II Section 2
The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States;
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
To: marktwain
Local Militia’s are very essential.
When hell breaks loose following an economic collapse or natural disaster, there will be NO local law enforcement nor a national guard to protect citizens.
Hurricane Katrina is a prime example.
LEO’s along with the guard will be too busy protecting their OWN families or the VERY well off to be bothered with the rest of us,especially the more economically depressed area’s.
We will be on our own.
Creating a local group of organized armed people to protect their neighborhoods in the event is just plain common sense.
To: The Comedian
... like wolves hate sheepdogs.
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posted on
02/10/2011 5:55:58 AM PST
by
IronJack
(=)
To: screaminsunshine
It would be a great idea here in Florida. I would support it as long as the forming of a militia was not coincident with any claim that not being in a militia denied gun rights.
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posted on
02/10/2011 6:01:08 AM PST
by
Mouton
To: marktwain
At the risk of attracting the attention of the Bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms I would like to point out that we are well beyond the point in time that this article assumes. I have personally seen government employees talk and act as if Obama care had not been found to be unconstitutional and completely vacated by two federal judges. Our country is already well into a period of lawlessness on the part of the government. We are now at the place in time many of us have been preparing for. What the gumming does now in regard to gun control is irrelevant. Anyone who would want the things they would ban already has them. If they want to try to take them away, well good luck.
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posted on
02/10/2011 6:12:40 AM PST
by
wastoute
(Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
To: The Comedian
Nazis hate the idea of armed Jews.Well said!
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posted on
02/10/2011 6:51:18 AM PST
by
paulcissa
(The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
To: C210N
...every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock...Hey, wait; it is unconstitutional to require a citizen to buy something, isn't it (health insurance fiasco)?
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posted on
02/10/2011 7:16:37 AM PST
by
JimRed
(Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
To: JimRed
It doesn’t say buy, it says provide. I know that there’s not much difference to us today, but there is a subtle difference.
You don’t have to buy a gun, you can trade or barter for one or you could even borrow one from your neighbor. You can’t do that with health insurance.
To: wastoute
Going from regulated to agitated takes awile. Agitated does now appear visible on the horizon.
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posted on
02/10/2011 7:50:34 AM PST
by
MurrietaMadman
(If it isn't a Party shortcut, count on it mostly going downhill.)
To: marktwain
Every state in the Union has at least one militia. Some states have multiple militias. It is an essetial element of freedom.
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posted on
02/10/2011 8:06:32 AM PST
by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
To: JimRed
Hey, wait; it is unconstitutional to require a citizen to buy something, isn't it (health insurance fiasco)?
It is unconstitutional for the Federal government to force you to buy something. It depends on your state constitution as to whether or not your individual state can or not.
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posted on
02/10/2011 8:29:32 AM PST
by
Renderofveils
(My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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