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Google Ocean: Has Atlantis been found off Africa?
Telegraph ^

Posted on 02/10/2011 3:51:02 PM PST by djf

A truly spectacular find. This will probably re-write history as we know it. See link for details.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: atlantis; catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; plato
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To: djf
I think the real Atlantis was the Minoans off of Santorini in the Mediterranean. It was destroyed by the volcano.
41 posted on 02/10/2011 5:31:37 PM PST by Darren McCarty (We should lead ourselves instead of looking for leaders)
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To: Palter; blam

You and blam. :’)


42 posted on 02/10/2011 5:32:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; SunkenCiv
The Mary Celeste in port.


43 posted on 02/10/2011 5:35:44 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: djf
If it's a "city", those are some humungous blocks. The bounding rectangle is 80 - 100 miles on a side.

Not buying it...

BTW & FWIW, I spend at least half my time doing cartography and overhead imagery analysis for archaeology...

44 posted on 02/10/2011 5:49:43 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: SunkenCiv; Palter
Well...okay.

Where Was Atlantis? Sundaland Fits The Bill, Surely!


45 posted on 02/10/2011 5:56:53 PM PST by blam
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To: djf

There are more lines, roads, artifacts ? about 150 miles due east of that.


46 posted on 02/10/2011 5:59:08 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: djf
Nice try. I know the guy that lives there.


47 posted on 02/10/2011 6:08:09 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: djf

Can’t you come up something smarter than posting a two year-old news article like its hot?


48 posted on 02/10/2011 6:34:00 PM PST by DarrellZero
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To: TXnMA

But which half?


49 posted on 02/10/2011 7:05:13 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

The half in which I’m not working on kicking RINORicky Perry’s @$$...


50 posted on 02/10/2011 7:33:13 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: SunkenCiv; Robert A. Cook, PE

Wouldn’t that be alien subduction?


51 posted on 02/10/2011 7:45:53 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: TXnMA

So that would be the front half? ;-]


52 posted on 02/10/2011 7:53:21 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DarrellZero

Well, I’ve been trying to come up with smart things to say since Oct, 1998.

How bout U??

Don’t bother.
I’m not going to fight an intellectual battle with an unarmed opponent.


53 posted on 02/10/2011 9:37:38 PM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: Duchess47

There ARE more...

34 13’04.74” N
15 36’12.53” W


54 posted on 02/10/2011 10:04:20 PM PST by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: TXnMA

Might not be roads, per se.

Might be walls.
Or dikes to keep the ocean out.

Who knows?
No matter what, I’m pretty confident that if it’s not a defect in the mapping imagery, it’s certainly not a natural structure.

And that would turn the world on it’s edge with the implications.


55 posted on 02/10/2011 10:18:57 PM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: Gadsden1st
It was a hoax. They found the culprit, too:


56 posted on 02/10/2011 10:33:09 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: DrC

Another excellent point!


57 posted on 02/11/2011 6:52:53 AM PST by Arlis (- Virginia loghome/woods-dweller/Jesus lovin'/Bible-totin'/"gun-clinger")
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To: djf; All
No matter what, I’m pretty confident that if it’s not a defect in the mapping imagery, it’s certainly not a natural structure.

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Sorry, but, based on knowledge of the post-processing that is applied to Google Earth data, I am very confident that those are minor differences (faint lines resulting from combining vessel scans with other data) that were enhanced by the "shadowing" filter used to give the image a 3-D appearance.

First of all, side-scan sonar looks out to the sides - always leaving a "dead zone" line directly under the track where the instrument was towed. This website explains and illustrates the phenomenon -- and explains how closely-spaced scan tracks can be used to fill in the data gap.

If the "gap-filling" (by scan overlap or digital interpolation) is imperfect, faint lines remain in the resulting digital image.

Rather than embark on a (even more) pedantic discussion of gradient convolution matrix math, I did a little demo:

I created two identical pairs of orthogonal lines which were only faintly different in brightness from the background. Then I applied a shadowing algorithm (like used by Google Earth) to the pair at lower right. Voila!

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FWIW, such algorithms are quite useful for analyzing overhead imagery. My son bought a big stack of WWII (grayscale) BDA (Bomb Damage Assessment) photos of German targets at a flea market. On one photo of a bombed-out German airfield, I noticed faint lines in some adjacent grassy fields.

Application of a similar "shadowing convolution" algorithm turned those faint lines into clearly-visible pairs of "ruts" leading to seventeen (clearly visible due to their "shadows") aircraft that had taxiied out into the woods -- and escaped the bombing of the airfield...

As to modern applications for such algorithms, "deponent further sayeth naught"... '-)

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But you were correct re the Google Earth pattern:"it’s certainly not a natural structure."...

58 posted on 02/11/2011 7:07:26 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: 1010RD
"So that would be the front half? ;-]"

Guess so... '-) But in between halves, I occasionally enjoy using logic and knowledge of image interpretation to squelch fanciful misinterpretations of imagery (as in # 58, here -- or as in a UPS MD-11 contrail misinterpreted as "a missile launch off California"... '-)

59 posted on 02/11/2011 7:27:53 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

As I said, I’m still not convinved one way or the udder!

But thanks for the very technical explanation.

I personally have written some image compression software used to process images stored in PCL format. And it is true that a wide variety of effects can be created, especially if you try to do compression and decide you can tolerate a bit of loss.
It is interesting!

One thing worth noting, though, is that the lines are not precisely vertical or horizontal, which is usually how these anomalies show up.


60 posted on 02/11/2011 7:37:40 AM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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