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CPAC Civil War: Ron Paul Supporters Scream “War Criminal” At Dick Cheney
Mediaite.com ^ | 02/10/2011 | Jon Bershad

Posted on 02/10/2011 3:52:58 PM PST by OldDeckHand

Things should have been nice and chummy at CPAC an hour ago. Dick Cheney strolled on stage to cheers and the inspirational tune of Tina Turner’s “Simply the Best” and got began to present the “Defender Of The Constitution” award to Donald Rumsfeld. However, as the chants of “USA! USA!” died down, a voice screaming “War criminal!” could be heard. And then, as Cheney continued to talk up his former colleague, a shouting match began between supporters of Ron Paul and the rest of the convention hall.

The Paul supporters eventually walked out in the middle of Rumsfeld’s speech as way of protest. Talking Points Memo managed to nab a quote from one of them:

“‘Uh, Defender of the Constitution?’ Justin Bradfield of Maryland scoffed when I caught up with him after he walked out of Rumsfeld’s speech. ‘Let’s see: he expanded the Defense Department more than pretty much any other defense secretary and he enforced the Patriot Act.’

‘[Speaking] as a libertarian, that’s not really the type of person who should be getting Defender of the Constitution,’ he added.”


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They call them Paultards for a reason.
1 posted on 02/10/2011 3:53:03 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Sarah was right about her last two years of “scheduling conflicts”.


2 posted on 02/10/2011 3:56:56 PM PST by NoLibZone (Obama must be impeached and tried for treason.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Roger that.



Wail 'til those nitwits show up in this thread.
3 posted on 02/10/2011 3:58:35 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: OldDeckHand; LS

I have been hearing from several friends at CPAC that they are completely disgusted with it this year. Some great speakers and guests like Cheney and Cain, but it the packs of roving paultards getting in people’s faces are causing folks just to leave. Even FReeper LS said on another thread it was over-run with anti-war Paultard types.


4 posted on 02/10/2011 3:59:57 PM PST by mnehring
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To: NoLibZone
Sarah was right about her last two years of “scheduling conflicts”.

She was. Good point. I'm not the biggest Palin fan but she is proving to be pretty savvy about a lot of things like this.

Wonder if she is ready for a rematch with Couric yet?

She doesn't need CPAC.

5 posted on 02/10/2011 4:00:34 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: NoLibZone
Sarah was right about her last two years of “scheduling conflicts”.

She was. Good point. I'm not the biggest Palin fan but she is proving to be pretty savvy about a lot of things like this.

Wonder if she is ready for a rematch with Couric yet?

She doesn't need CPAC.

6 posted on 02/10/2011 4:02:01 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: OldDeckHand

What the hell is wrong with these kooks?


7 posted on 02/10/2011 4:02:31 PM PST by youngidiot (Don't let the name fool ya, toots.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Cheney is a US patriot.

The Communist monkeys representing Ron Paul are not.

CPAC [ = Obama Republicans] supports the Islamic invasion, CAIR, Mitt Romney and antiSemitism.


CPAC/ACU/CAIR is run by David Keene
involved in Palin-bashing and Romney-care polishing.

""Palin-bashing CPAC/ACU Chair donated $2,000 to Arlen Specter, endorsed Romney""

""Exclusive: Conservative group offers support for $2M"

""Palin rebuffs CPAC, Keene""

"Washington Insider David Keene Disses Governor Palin, Claims to Speak for Grassroots
"Keene's ACU also puts on the annual CPAC conference in Washington.

.In the last three years CPAC has devolved into nothing more than
an annual love fest for the most established of establishment
Republicans, Mitt Romney. It should come as no surprise that David
Keene supported Mitt Romney in 2008. "


"David Keene Endorses Romney"


"ACU President David Keene Endorses Romney
Long courted by Romney, Keene agreed to formalize his endorsement of
the former governor during a face to face meeting in Florida on
Tuesday, according to knowledgeable sources."


"David A. Keene (born May 20, 1945) is the current chairman of the American
Conservative Union, a position which he has held since 1984. Additionally, he is the
managing associate at the Carmen Group Lobbying, a lobbying firm based in
Washington, D.C. In December 2007, Keene endorsed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. "


"(at CPAC 2010, the) message there was that "real conservatives" don't support the war
on terror because it is a creation of the "Israeli lobby" - which coalesces with the left-
wing's new anti-Semitism against neoconservatives. Karen Kwiatkowski is a darling of
both the leftist Huffington Post and the anti-Semitic paleocon site Antiwar.com.


…is a board member of the ACU, and from the looks of CPAC's
covered topics and omission of discussion of jihad, it looks as if he exerts enormous
influence over David Keene, the ACU's nominal leader. Norquist and his ally Suhail
Khan seem to be in charge at CPAC - no CPAC event goes on that doesn't reflect their perspective. ….
Grover Norquist's troubling ties to Islamic supremacists and jihadists have been known
for years. He and his Palestinian wife, Samah Alrayyes, who was director of
communications for his Islamic Free Market Institute until they married in 2005, are very
active in "Muslim outreach." …..
It was Norquist who ushered these silver-tongued jihadists into the Oval Office after the
worst attack ever on American soil. ….
Grover Norquist was on the jihad payroll before and after the carnage and death of
September 11….
Norquist also introduced Nihad Awad, cofounder and executive director of the Council
on American-Islamic Relations, to President Bush. ….
It is no surprise that CPAC 2010, like CPAC 2009, had nothing addressing the war we
are actually engaged in. This is due to the influence of Norquist, Keene, and Suhail Khan,
a CPAC board member. According to Gaffney, Khan "has repeatedly been a featured
speaker at MSA, ISNA and CAIR events" - that is, Muslim Students Association, Islamic
Society of North America, and Council on American-Islamic Relations, three groups
linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, the international Islamic organization dedicated to
establishing the rule of Islamic law and the subjugation of infidels worldwide."



CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty - FR

CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty

8 posted on 02/10/2011 4:02:37 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Jack Black

You can say that again!


9 posted on 02/10/2011 4:03:24 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: OldDeckHand

What an embarrassing circus...


10 posted on 02/10/2011 4:03:26 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Diogenesis

+1


11 posted on 02/10/2011 4:03:47 PM PST by mnehring
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To: OldDeckHand

Dick Cheney has served our country long and well. He is a true American patriot. Shame on the Ron Paul people fir such a disgraceful display.

Ron Paul’s vision of America and the world, in particular his isolationism, anti-semitism and anti- Israel positions are not shared by most Americans and certainly not shared by most Conservatives.

Time to end this trashing and remember who the real enemy is.

NOBAMA 2012


12 posted on 02/10/2011 4:06:56 PM PST by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: OldDeckHand

CPAC should have kicked their sorry arses out years ago. They aren’t “Conservatives” anyways.


13 posted on 02/10/2011 4:07:09 PM PST by McGruff (If you tell a lie enough times some people will come to believe it.)
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To: OldDeckHand

...need to build something new from that Tea Party convention in Nashville last year...


14 posted on 02/10/2011 4:07:22 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: mnehring
CPAC has created this. By making CPAC about the Staw Poll and elevating that to the first test of the Presidential contest they have ensured that many people will come just to get the ticket to vote.

I was sent email asking me to attend by one candidate this year. I'm sure other candidates have done even more to "get out the vote".

There is no excuse for acting like idiotic Code Pinkers at a conservative event. Ron Paul should make clear to his supporters that that sort of behavior is not appreciated.

15 posted on 02/10/2011 4:07:57 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Jack Black

And, seeing as it is relativly easy to get into the event I’m not at all convinced the people yelling at Cheney are even legitimate Ron Paul delegates or supporters. They are just as likely to be the local Anti-fa idiots.


16 posted on 02/10/2011 4:08:56 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I recommend that CPAC set up a room with several bongs and boxes of Skittles in another part of the conference center. That will draw the Paulitards away from the straights...
17 posted on 02/10/2011 4:09:01 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Speaking as a conservative, the “C” in CPAC used to mean something. I would say this person must have gotten lost but since this conference is becoming more and more in name only he probably does belong there. But the name of the conference should be changed.


18 posted on 02/10/2011 4:09:49 PM PST by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didnÂ’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: who knows what evil?
"...need to build something new from that Tea Party convention in Nashville last year..."

I would prefer just to take CPAC back. If you create something new, they'll just eventually infest that, as well.

I'm not at all convinced that the PaulBots aren't just an operating arm of Code Pink et. al.

19 posted on 02/10/2011 4:10:13 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Cincinna

What a fiasco for the CPAC name. They have been co-opted, and are a fore runner for co-opting the Tea Party. A shame.


20 posted on 02/10/2011 4:12:13 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: Jack Black

I know one Ron Paul supporter. She’s college friend who has gone off the deep end. She sounds more like an anarchist than a conservative. She’s become a real looney toon.


21 posted on 02/10/2011 4:12:32 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Jack Black

This isn’t the first time. They did this to Pence at the SRLC last year.


22 posted on 02/10/2011 4:13:00 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Damn, just damn, Paul does something half way intelligent then his kool-aid drinking sycophants show just why I think he is a nut.


23 posted on 02/10/2011 4:13:59 PM PST by stockpirate (U-6 Total unemployed for January 2011 16.1 percent)
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To: Jack Black

They are legit Paultards. The PAC was even buying tickets and some of the known Tards like Matt Collins were organizing folks to go.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?301-CPAC-2011


24 posted on 02/10/2011 4:14:12 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Jack Black

Uh,

Wouldn’t Perky have to have a job?


25 posted on 02/10/2011 4:16:27 PM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: kalee
"She sounds more like an anarchist...

It is a VERY short putt for some of these radical libertarians to anarchist. It's not so much that they believe in limited government, but they want no government, to include the borders of countries.

I recognize not all libertarians are like this, but some are - and they have increasingly vocal supporters.

26 posted on 02/10/2011 4:17:03 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

PaulTurds is more like it!


27 posted on 02/10/2011 4:17:21 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Cincinna
Ron Paul’s vision of America and the world, in particular his isolationism, anti-semitism and anti- Israel positions are not shared by most Americans and certainly not shared by most Conservatives.

Every candidate has their weaknesses. If he is truly anti-semitic that is a huge failing, but is he?

I've heard him say he's against continuing giving foreign aid to Israel, a first world country but the largest recipient of foreign aid. He is against all foreign aid feeling it is unconstitutional.

Do you agree that foreign aid is constitutional? It doesn't fit into the enumerated powers. There is no way it can be stretched to fit into the commerce clause.

Which part of the Constitution authorizes it?

So, I think there is a principled, conservative stand against it, which people may interpret as being anti-Israel.

Watch the Rand Paul interview with Wolf Blitzer. Wolf asks Rand if he is oopposed to foreign aid to countries like Hati - Rand says that Americans are generous and after huge natural catastrophies of course we should respond .. or something to that effect. Wolf's next question is about Isarel. (Which recieves more than 10X the aid Hati gets. That tells me more about Wolf than about Rand.

I agree most Americans really like the idea that we run the world.

We also have a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit. It is my opinion (which I know is a minority position here among FReepers, and is not shared by the management) that SOME reduction in our "Policing of the World" is possible, desirable and probably necessary given the financial constraints. But, I also agree with Jim that you don't want to go too far. Certainly national defense *is* the primary "only government can do it" job, it is a dangerous world, and we should maintain a powerful military.

Paul goes too far, in my opinion.

I liked Dick Cheney alot and feel that whoever booed him acted disgracefully. Hopefully they were ejected by the event organizers.

28 posted on 02/10/2011 4:20:11 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: OldDeckHand

lol! dumb &$# alert!


29 posted on 02/10/2011 4:20:57 PM PST by dalebert
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To: OldDeckHand
The Paul supporters eventually walked out ...
They shouldn't even have been able to walk.
30 posted on 02/10/2011 4:21:11 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: OldDeckHand

I’m guessing that at least one of the “C”s in CPAC stands for clown, no?


31 posted on 02/10/2011 4:23:14 PM PST by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: RitaOK

I think you are on to something. The same political dynamics at work with CPAC will move into the Tea Party. I have this conspiratorial inkling that the Left is working out a formula that will be applied to the Tea Party. What I can see is that a Trojan Horse moves into the organization and springs its trap—or political bomb—and that disrupts the organization enough to destroy it.

If the Left can disrupt the Tea Party before the 2012 elections, if would be a victory for them.


32 posted on 02/10/2011 4:25:52 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: OldDeckHand
It is a VERY short putt for some of these radical libertarians to anarchist. It's not so much that they believe in limited government, but they want no government, to include the borders of countries.

True! Also, in a similar vein many of them don't really want to eject the illegals and control immigration. Their basic viewpoint / philosophy is "government is bad". That's over simplistic. Many libertarians will find something "evil" if done by government, but the identical think "OK" if done by private enterprise.

I tend to think most evil things are evil regardless of the actor doing them, and that government actually gets a special pass on some things (for instance, arresting and imprisioning people).

Legalizing drugs is another theoretically logical position, but in our screwed up world it's a really bad idea.

Judge Napolitino is pro drug legalization I take it, from watching his show. He's a Constitutiional / Libertarian mix.

I mix in a bit more cultural conservatism in the mix.

I'd still prefer Paul to Mike Huckabee though.

33 posted on 02/10/2011 4:26:06 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

34 posted on 02/10/2011 4:26:25 PM PST by McGruff (If you tell a lie enough times some people will come to believe it.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I'm not at all convinced that the PaulBots aren't just an operating arm of Code Pink et. al.

Though a lot of them act and believe the same as Code Pink, I don't think they're actually covert Code Pinkers. There's a lot more in common between Paulistinians and Kookcinichers than there is between Paulistinians and Conservatism. If Ron Paul would change parties or retire, a lot of these moonbats would switch their obsession to Kookcinich, Nader or someone like that.

35 posted on 02/10/2011 4:27:00 PM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: OldDeckHand

Was Lyndon LaRouche there, too?


36 posted on 02/10/2011 4:31:36 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: OldDeckHand


37 posted on 02/10/2011 4:32:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Lincoln)
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To: Jack Black
"I'd still prefer Paul to Mike Huckabee though."

Tough call, for me. If we had a balanced budget amendment, it wouldn't be a close call. Huckabee would be miles ahead of Paul. While I differ with Huckabee substantially on his spending policies (or maybe lack of spending policy is more appropriate), Huckabee at least understands the existential threat of the mooslems, and he'd defend Israel, and our other strategic interests around the globe.

The fact of the matter, is Congress has the power of the purse strings. Yes, the President has the power of the veto, but if we had a responsible Congress to begin with, we wouldn't be in the fiscal mess we're in today.

The isolationist movement that Paul represents, scares the hell out of me.

38 posted on 02/10/2011 4:35:47 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Disgraceful. CPAC was already a diseased joke, but even still, for people that would call themselves Conservatives to behave like this is repugnant, and unfairly taints the movement as a whole.


39 posted on 02/10/2011 4:36:23 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: OldDeckHand

We have had a serious problem with the Ron Paulers in Washington state. They have been making a serious attempt to take over the Republican Party here, disguising themselves as Republicans, getting elected as precinct officers and disrupting the convention with endless objections.

So much of what the Paulers say make sense, but the objectional parts are a deal breaker for me. Those objectional parts of the Pauler agenda are mostly foreign policy issues, but some union members seem to think that libertarians can also support the union agenda, and these are the really dangerous libertarians.


40 posted on 02/10/2011 4:39:27 PM PST by Eva
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To: Cincinna

Ron Paulers can be just as much a part of the “enemy” as any Democrat. Until you have seen these Paul supporters in action, in person, it might be difficult to understand, but they have made a concerted effort to take over the GOP in WA state and tried for two years in a row to disrupt the state convention and make sure that nothing got accomplished. One of our local Paulers had to be asked to leave.


41 posted on 02/10/2011 4:44:29 PM PST by Eva
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To: youngidiot
Here's a good guess...


42 posted on 02/10/2011 4:46:11 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: Jack Black
Every candidate has their weaknesses. If he is truly antisemitic that is a huge failing, but is he?

I've never read anything directly attributable to Paul that was antisemitic, but go to his website and read some of the commentaries and you'll find that antisemites feel free to express themselves at his site.

And I've reached a point where I no longer consider support of Israel as foreign aid, but more as a part of our national defense, which does fall under the responsibilities of our federal government.

Paul's non-interventionism is profoundly naive. It would be a beautifully gift wrapped package to all the despots in the world who have no problem with intervening into other countries governments, and give them the green light to set up puppet regimes. All for the stated purpose of destroying America.

Representative republics in the middle east are essential for America's security.

43 posted on 02/10/2011 4:47:39 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Emperor Palpatine
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44 posted on 02/10/2011 4:49:18 PM PST by mnehring
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To: All

a voice screaming “War criminal!”
***************************************

That sure sounds like Code Pinkos, eh?


45 posted on 02/10/2011 4:52:06 PM PST by Irenic
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To: OldDeckHand

We have a few Ron Paul fanatics in the township.Funny,they were the resident nut-jobs before Paul came onto the scene.


46 posted on 02/10/2011 4:53:31 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: OldDeckHand
Both disgust me.



Elmer Gantry is a socialist fraud and Paul is nuttier than a nest of cuckoos.
47 posted on 02/10/2011 5:02:18 PM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Throw Code Paul out!

Pray for America


48 posted on 02/10/2011 5:02:47 PM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Throw Code Paul out!

Pray for America


49 posted on 02/10/2011 5:03:07 PM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: OldDeckHand

They are our own little Democrats.


50 posted on 02/10/2011 5:16:38 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Only two things come from Texas and I see you're wearing an "I Heart Austin" t-shirt)
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