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What Will GOProud Bring to the Conservative Table?
The American Thinker ^ | February 10, 2011 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

Posted on 02/11/2011 2:05:43 AM PST by Scanian

There's been a whole lot of talking going on regarding GOProud's participation and sponsorship of this year's CPAC convention. There've been numerous pundits spouting off about it. There've been interviews galore on the subject. There've been memos. There've been boycotts. There's been a lot of liberal drooling over the prospect of a conservative split of gigantic proportion.

Yet, there is something fundamental missing in this big, fat heap of internecine squabbling.

What will GOProud bring to the conservative table?

So far, fiscal conservatives of the libertarian bent have sought to shame social conservatives into silence and forced acceptance of GOProud. Now, I'm as socially conservative as they come and a Catholic to boot. On the other hand, I believe strongly in political pragmatism, as long as politically pragmatic policies are held to high standards of accountability. If one can demonstrate that his proposal will definitely work to the betterment of society, especially for the protection of future citizens (the children), then I say, great.

As I'm watching this whole conservative kerfuffle, I'm keeping my own faith and values intact, while at the same time, thinking there is room for compromise in the public square.

But compromise involves both parties coming to the bargaining table with a willingness to not only take, but also to give.

GOProud, it ought to be noted, by numbers, represents a tiny sliver of the conservative base. Social conservatives -- especially Christians and religiously conservative Jews -- account for a large majority of the conservative base. So, attempting to shame the majority of the base is probably not a pragmatic approach to the problem.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativesplit; cpac; goproud; homosexualagenda; kerfuffle; lping; socialconservatism

1 posted on 02/11/2011 2:05:48 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Nothing but evil.


2 posted on 02/11/2011 2:10:19 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Scanian

They will bring more immoral behavior to the GOP.


3 posted on 02/11/2011 2:12:21 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: bmwcyle

It seems pretty dysfunctional. Why is there a C in CPAC again?


4 posted on 02/11/2011 2:28:38 AM PST by AustralianConservative
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To: AustralianConservative

I think the homosexual platform fell flat this year - to say, their abundance was premature.

From the clips I’ve seen, all good stuff. Maybe the homos decided to focus on the horizon instead of the curtains.


5 posted on 02/11/2011 2:34:00 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Scanian

Sodomy.


6 posted on 02/11/2011 2:38:15 AM PST by MestaMachine (Note: I do NOT capitalize anything I don't respect...like obama and/or islam..)
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To: Scanian
What will GOProud bring to the conservative table?

Nothing. Boot them out the door at CPAC, and they can hold THEIR nose on Election Day...many of us had to in 2008...

7 posted on 02/11/2011 2:44:17 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Scanian
What will GOProud bring to the table?

OH, I don't know, how about this:

pamela_anderson_cooper_3

OR THIS?

RuPaul_by_David_Shankbone

OR, MAYBE?

transgender1

8 posted on 02/11/2011 2:55:04 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: Scanian
True conservatives eschew identity politics especially the politics of personal “behavior.” It is none of our business if you keep it private and we hate the bastards who try to force us to make it our business!

If you are a chronic nose-picker do it at home-I don't want to see the nasty act!

Homosex is gross and the mental image induces nausea in normal people. How in HELL did the proselytizing of an anti-biological perversion become a political movement!?!?

9 posted on 02/11/2011 2:56:13 AM PST by Happy Rain ("NO! NOT NOW!!!...Oh,okay okay." - Sam Kenison's last words.)
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To: Scanian
Coalitions of radical groups that agree to disagree in the short term are helping push the longer term Socialist/Marxist/Islamo agenda in America and abroad.

Un-herdable groups of cats on our side will not mount a strong defense.

Divide and conquer is one of the oldest tactics, and Conservatives continually play into it.

10 posted on 02/11/2011 3:00:22 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Scanian; All

I never see anything positive when the term “fiscal conservative” is thrown around...a fiscal conservative is usually neither


11 posted on 02/11/2011 3:16:52 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Newt Gingrich and Chris Matthews: Seperated at Birth??)
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To: Happy Rain

You are one of the few who see it for what it is....

I’m afraid that Americans have been brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is just an attribute like being left-handed or maybe a benign activity as harmless as, say, bird watching.

It is vile, disgusting, and abnormal more of us should consider what homo acts actually entail.

Cross-dressing and acting ludicrous doesn’t even scratch the surface.


12 posted on 02/11/2011 3:17:12 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Jim Robinson
GOProud is nothing but a Democrat political hoax.
13 posted on 02/11/2011 3:34:01 AM PST by Average Al
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To: Happy Rain

There’s so much overbearing garbage in this society today that about all I know to do with it is to just turn my back on it if I can at all; speak disapproval, of course, and try to live in the midst of it the best I can - although those who seem to have little or nothing to do appear to be intent on FORCING their whims on the rest of us.


14 posted on 02/11/2011 3:35:56 AM PST by Twinkie (Two wrongs don't make a right.)
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To: Scanian

Real conservatives do not give a rat’s patootie what people do in the privacy of their homes if it doesn’t hurt others or cost the taxpayers money. As far as we are concerned, it is between them and their maker.

What we DO give a damn about is the movement to normalize homosexuality, give it equal standing in the eyes of the government, making all benefits and societal advantages that are available to men and women (that are primarily geared towards facilitating the rearing of children and facilitating a family structure) also available to homosexuals and making them full partners in a process they have no business being involved in.

That we cannot countenance.


15 posted on 02/11/2011 3:36:57 AM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: Scanian

GOProud will bring a turd to the table to drop into the punch bowl.


16 posted on 02/11/2011 3:43:36 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Scanian
What Will GOProud Bring to the Conservative Table?

AIDS.

17 posted on 02/11/2011 4:02:01 AM PST by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: Scanian

Nothing.....all gays think about is anal sex....PATHETIC....that trumps EVERYTHING ELSE!


18 posted on 02/11/2011 4:23:53 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Happy Rain
In a word ........... California!
19 posted on 02/11/2011 4:33:12 AM PST by Old Badger (I still like Palin because she will tell like it is and she take no prisoners!)
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To: Scanian
AIDS and Hepatitis C.

LLS

20 posted on 02/11/2011 4:38:40 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Ann Archy

Tell me that isn’t FILTHY, SICK and DISTURBED.

My high school biology teacher explained it all in the first two minutes of the first class: “The purpose of any organism is to reproduce itself.”


21 posted on 02/11/2011 4:39:38 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
What will GOProud bring to the conservative table?

22 posted on 02/11/2011 4:40:12 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jim Robinson

THE TRUTH... IN 100% CRYSTAL CLARITY!

LLS


23 posted on 02/11/2011 4:40:40 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Scanian

Only trouble.


24 posted on 02/11/2011 5:08:54 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: AustralianConservative

As a group ProudGOP they are pushing the gay lifestyle. I’ll will never support that.


25 posted on 02/11/2011 5:09:50 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: philman_36

That was some slick packaging there. LOL


26 posted on 02/11/2011 5:12:19 AM PST by dforest
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To: Scanian

If homos represent at most 2 percent of the general population, they might represent what — a tenth of that in conservative ranks?

The entire “conservative” homo caucus (get your mind out of the gutter!) could meet in a pup tent with plenty of room left over for the Mazola.


27 posted on 02/11/2011 5:53:23 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

Funny thing about queers. I’ve worked with a couple who had religious tendencies and talk a bit of a conservative game re. social issues (other than “gay rights,” of course) and sometimes displayed a longing for normality and family life. Those guys gave me the feeling that they are Democrats just because they are made to feel welcome there.

That’s just too bad. I can’t see bringing in a load of sick puppies just because they might be persuaded to vote a certain way. They are simply not worth the trouble.


28 posted on 02/11/2011 6:07:49 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

They long for Christian acceptance but they spurn the word of God. They yearn for family yet they practice a sexuality that biologically precludes reproduction. The clamor for normalcy while engaging in one of the world’s oldest and vilest perversions.

Yep, that degree of duplicity is more trouble than it’s worth.


29 posted on 02/11/2011 6:45:28 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Scanian; All

“GOProud, it ought to be noted, by numbers, represents a tiny sliver of the conservative base. Social conservatives — especially Christians and religiously conservative Jews — account for a large majority of the conservative base. So, attempting to shame the majority of the base is probably not a pragmatic approach to the problem.”

That is probably the most NO DUH statement in history. If CPAC keeps ignoring “social/moral” conservatives...it becomes a meaningless organization. It may as well be a meeting of the Libertarian Party. True libertarians....meaning they support the full libertarian party platform....ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES.


30 posted on 02/11/2011 8:27:33 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: rlmorel; All

“Real conservatives do not give a rat’s patootie what people do in the privacy of their homes if it doesn’t hurt others or cost the taxpayers money. As far as we are concerned, it is between them and their maker.”

I disagree. That is a libertarian view. Your private behavior affects your public behavior. While I don’t care to start looking through keyholes....I will clearly state that ALL homosexual behavior is ALWAYS wrong whether in private or public. I say the same thing about adultery...it is ALWAYS wrong and hurts society.


31 posted on 02/11/2011 8:34:08 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Scanian

Um...Cosmos and fabulous hors d’oeuvres?


32 posted on 02/11/2011 8:34:13 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Sola Veritas

I understand your point, but unfortunately, unless you ARE willing to look through keyholes, how would you know or care?

I am not saying it is right. I am not saying it is healthy. But lacking any input from someone, a comment they make, an admission or whatever, how would you know?

As I said, I know exactly what you mean, but unless you know...how can you approve or disapprove of someone? I can come out and say forthrightly that I disapprove, but I can’t condemn any individual unless they tell me or I catch them in the act. Ugh.


33 posted on 02/11/2011 8:41:33 AM PST by rlmorel ("If this doesn't light your fire, Men, the pilot light's out!"...Coach Ed Bolin)
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To: rlmorel; All

“I understand your point, but unfortunately, unless you ARE willing to look through keyholes, how would you know or care?”

My point was to counter what I thought was a libertarian view of anything by “consenting adults” being OK. I can see that wasn’t your intent.

I’m beginning to see the “Liberatian Party” to being as dangerous to a well behaved society as liberal Democrats. While there is no doubt that on some issues I agree with libertarian viewpoints (better put they agree with me), on some crucial issues I see them as the enemy just like I do liberal democrats.


34 posted on 02/11/2011 9:16:10 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Scanian
So far, fiscal conservatives of the libertarian bent have sought to shame social conservatives into silence and forced acceptance of GOProud. Now, I'm as socially conservative as they come and a Catholic to boot. On the other hand, I believe strongly in political pragmatism, as long as politically pragmatic policies are held to high standards of accountability. If one can demonstrate that his proposal will definitely work to the betterment of society, especially for the protection of future citizens (the children), then I say, great.

Who is this putz that wrote the article? Newsflash: those that engage in buggery have never be responsible for the "betterment of society" and never will.

35 posted on 02/11/2011 1:01:34 PM PST by aSeattleConservative ("...the American Christian ... would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!" G. Washington)
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To: Scanian
GOProud brings the homosexual agenda to CPAC.

It's what they're all about, since they define themselves by their sexual preference.

36 posted on 02/11/2011 1:06:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Scanian

The table cloth and silverware?


37 posted on 02/11/2011 1:07:29 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

All that and much, much more.


38 posted on 02/11/2011 1:07:49 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

“sexual preference” is still a euphemism.

They define who they are by their desire to stick their [] in another man’s [].


39 posted on 02/11/2011 1:08:31 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: MrB

I realize what they do. I don’t use that kind of graphic language, however.


40 posted on 02/11/2011 1:15:55 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Scanian
1) Really coordinated shoe/clothing ensembles.

2) First-person insights into the male airline steward lifestyle.

3) AIDS.

4) Demands for AIDS funding and unionized airline stewards.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

41 posted on 02/11/2011 1:16:49 PM PST by The Comedian ("Cry flummox and let loose the camels of war." - Truth29)
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To: trisham

Sorry if my square brackets offended.

I’ve found, though, when you define the issue down to what it really is, leftists shy away from trying to defend such behavior.

Leftists love to stay in the realm of the undefined so that they can feel good about themselves.


42 posted on 02/11/2011 1:21:29 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: MrB

I understand.


43 posted on 02/11/2011 1:25:45 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: AustralianConservative
Why is there a C in CPAC again

It apparently stands for "coprophilia".
44 posted on 02/11/2011 1:25:50 PM PST by Antoninus (Fair warning: If Romney's the GOP nominee in 2012, I'm looking for a new party.)
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To: Antoninus
So, then, what does the PACk stand for?
45 posted on 02/11/2011 1:32:12 PM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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