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Could The Fall Of Mubarak Lead To World War Three?

Posted on 02/11/2011 2:02:16 PM PST by pinochet

The peace treaty that the late President Anwar Sadat signed with Israel, is extremely unpopular with the Egyptian people. If free elections were to be held, any presidential candidate who hoped to stand a good chance of being elected, may be tempted to bash Israel in his campaign speeches.

If diplomatic relations between Egypt and Israel were to be cut off, there could be big trouble. If the Egyptian government were to refuse to cooperate with Israel in maintaining the blockade against Hamas, that might ignite an Egypt/Israel military conflict.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: egypt; israel; mubarak; muslimbrotherhood; yes
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If Hamas was to provoke Israel at this sensitive time, and if Israel were forced to respond militarily like they did in 2008, the crowds in Egypt would go wild.

What if there were similar uprisings in America-friendly nations like Pakistan, Morocco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, and Jordan? We may end up with WW-3, and the launch of a new crusade between the West and Islam. This battle may take decades before it is decided.

1 posted on 02/11/2011 2:02:22 PM PST by pinochet
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To: pinochet

I thought we were at WW 5 by now?


2 posted on 02/11/2011 2:03:18 PM PST by max americana
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To: pinochet
The peace treaty that the late President Anwar Sadat signed with Israel, is extremely unpopular with the Egyptian people

It became popular when the Israelis destroyed their airforce and Moshe Sharon crossed the sweet water canal on his way to Cairo. They may need a reminder.

3 posted on 02/11/2011 2:06:07 PM PST by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: pinochet

But there is also another scenario. The US gives Egypt military 1.5 billion dollars a year. If they were to start anything against Israel that would immediately stop. As my wise father said follow the money. There might be agitation in the Egyptian streets to do something but the military will vote for the money is my prediction.


4 posted on 02/11/2011 2:08:09 PM PST by ProudFossil
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To: pinochet

Yes. It could.


5 posted on 02/11/2011 2:08:32 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pinochet

Three, four, five and six.


6 posted on 02/11/2011 2:08:52 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: pinochet

LOTS of vanities today. There was a day a while back where something big happened and there were dozens and dozens of vanities all day long. Does anyone remember what happened? I’m totally blanking. It was something about Obama, but I don’t think it was the election. Oh, well.


7 posted on 02/11/2011 2:09:21 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: pinochet

No WWW III. Egypt will simply slip quietly into radical Islamic rule, the MSM will be busy covering Lindsay Lohans’s latest escapades and no one will be the wiser.


8 posted on 02/11/2011 2:10:32 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: pinochet

Just how would Egypt “back out” of the peace treaty? Give Sinai back? Start a war?


9 posted on 02/11/2011 2:12:08 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: ProudFossil
If they [Egypt] were to start anything against Israel that would immediately stop.

With the current U.S. administration why do you think it would stop?

10 posted on 02/11/2011 2:12:55 PM PST by the_Watchman (Healthcare reform was never about health.)
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To: ProudFossil
The US gives Egypt military 1.5 billion dollars a year.

The Saudis could make that up out of pocket change if they thought it would buy them some peace from the Muslim Brotherhood. Also with the US facing bankruptcy the money was likely to get scaled back in any case. Lets face it thanks to Obama's trillions of dollars of reckless domestic spending we just don't have the deep pockets necessary for wide scale bribery any more.
11 posted on 02/11/2011 2:13:01 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: pinochet
that might ignite an Egypt/Israel military conflict.

If this was 1967 or 1973 I would say bring it on. But we have sold Egypt the most sophisticated surface-to-air and other weapons that will end up in the hands of the MB and kill thousands of Israelis. It would be devastating.

12 posted on 02/11/2011 2:13:47 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: pinochet

Just how would Egypt “back out” of the peace treaty? Give Sinai back? Start a war?


13 posted on 02/11/2011 2:15:32 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: pinochet

Look for the one who will proclaim his protection of Israel.


14 posted on 02/11/2011 2:17:04 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: the_Watchman

Current administration has already jumped on side against Israel. MB has already declared war. Obama supports the MB.


15 posted on 02/11/2011 2:17:10 PM PST by himno hero
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To: colorado tanker

Just how would Egypt “back out” of the peace treaty?

Can’t remember the man’s name who “stepped to the mike” in Cairo a few days ago (pro Moslem Brotherhhod), said the treaty with Isreal was between Marbarak and Isreal, not Egypt and Isreal.


16 posted on 02/11/2011 2:19:06 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: himno hero
Liberal voices from the past. Substitute Egypt for Viet Nam, Laos Cambodia etc

“Vietnam should teach us an important lesson. Hanoi [is creating] a collectivist society . . . likely to produce greater welfare and security for its people than any local alternative ever offered, at a cost in freedom that affects a small elite.” — Stanley Hoffman; The New Republic, May 3, 1975
“The greatest gift our country can give the Cambodian people is not guns but peace. And the best way to accomplish that goal is by ending military aid now.” — Rep. Chris Dodd (D., Conn.) Congressional Record
March 12, 1975
“It is ironic that we are here at a time just before Vietnam is about to be liberated.” — Producer Bert Schneider; Academy Awards, April 8, 1975



17 posted on 02/11/2011 2:22:13 PM PST by BilLies (no)
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To: pinochet
It could very well. Any Muslim nation that threatens Israel will have its hands full to be sure and may regret they tried to wipe them out.

Meanwhile, Obama won't do a damned thing to interfere but will try to stay Israel's hand. A gesture which will fall on deaf ears in Tel Aviv. There will be war. Israel won't start it but I believe they'll be a good bet to finish it.

18 posted on 02/11/2011 2:25:34 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tyrants flourish only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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To: pinochet
Glenn Beck said Tunisia is our “Archduke Ferdinand Moment”. Personally, I think all of these events are but acts in a long running play. The real question in my mind, are we seeing the lead up to the finale?
19 posted on 02/11/2011 2:26:31 PM PST by Errant
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To: DallasDeb

Dear Dallas Deb, you are exactly right.


20 posted on 02/11/2011 2:28:45 PM PST by ragmop
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To: Errant

Glen Beck is out of his league on this series of events

He extrapolates an extrapolation and raises it to the tenth power and then claims it is reality and the future


21 posted on 02/11/2011 2:30:01 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: pinochet

You betchya!


22 posted on 02/11/2011 2:33:01 PM PST by blackdog
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To: Tread EZ

“They may need a reminder.”

That ‘reminder’ is going to look like a Star of David flying over the Pyramids.


23 posted on 02/11/2011 2:33:02 PM PST by MeganC (Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: pinochet

This entire event could have been avoided or managed better if anyone had seen it coming. As a Fox News contributor said this week, there are people in D.C., and on the ground in Egypt, whose ONLY job is to find out this information. They failed miserably. Even worse, the uprising wasn’t a well-organized covert operation; it was the people talking and taking action. We should’ve known.


24 posted on 02/11/2011 2:35:56 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Whatever you are filled with will spill out when you're bumped.)
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To: the_Watchman
Obama will not be satisfied until Israel is completely surrounded by Jew-Hating Muslim Governments. Then the Muslims will be able to negotiate lasting peace with Israel.
Thanks you American Democrat Kapos.
25 posted on 02/11/2011 2:38:22 PM PST by BilLies (no)
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To: ragmop

Thought I might be too subtle for this crowd.


26 posted on 02/11/2011 2:39:49 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: bert
It wasn't my intention to make this about Beck. I just wanted to point out that many events have led us to this point in history. But in defense of Beck, he does remind us to do our own homework.
27 posted on 02/11/2011 2:41:33 PM PST by Errant
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To: Errant

Yes, I believe we are.


28 posted on 02/11/2011 2:42:07 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: MayflowerMadam
there are people in D.C., and on the ground in Egypt, whose ONLY job is to find out this information. They failed miserably

There have been some reports the the US State Department sponsored "demonstration" strategies in NY to overthrow the government. Probably people like Bill Ayers did the training.

29 posted on 02/11/2011 2:44:36 PM PST by DallasDeb
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To: montag813

Israel would go nuclear.

Their arsenal stood at 200 warheads when the Oslo Accords were negotiated in 1998. They are believed to have been adding 25 to 35 warheads per year since then.

Do the math.


30 posted on 02/11/2011 2:50:57 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: DallasDeb

Kinda looking that way to me too!


31 posted on 02/11/2011 2:53:28 PM PST by Errant
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To: DallasDeb

There is more that get what you are saying than you think.


32 posted on 02/11/2011 2:53:59 PM PST by gop4lyf ("Socialism is the political dream of the unachiever, the excuse maker, and the lazy.")
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To: pinochet

World War III began the night Obama was elected. It’s just that open hostilities here haven’t emerged yet. They will - when he devolves this country into a Weimar Republic where money is nothing more than paper to wipe your ass with.


33 posted on 02/11/2011 2:55:14 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: DallasDeb

And feign ecumenism in the extreme.


34 posted on 02/11/2011 2:56:36 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: pinochet

The idiot we have in the WH will get us all killed yet.


35 posted on 02/11/2011 2:56:48 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: WestwardHo
I assume not even the Brotherhood would start a war with Israel, which would be suicidal.

The only concrete action I can think of they could take would be to open the border with Gaza and openly support Hamas. That would cost Egypt a billion and a half a year in aid, though. (At least it would with any other administration. Who knows what Obozo would do.)

36 posted on 02/11/2011 2:57:11 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: pinochet

Could The Fall Of Mubarak Lead To World War Three?

Yup.


37 posted on 02/11/2011 2:57:57 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Tread EZ

It was Ariel (Arik), not Moshe. Sorry.


38 posted on 02/11/2011 2:59:34 PM PST by Tread EZ (God bless you and yours)
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To: BilLies
“The greatest gift our country can give the Cambodian people is not guns but peace. And the best way to accomplish that goal is by ending military aid now.” — Rep. Chris Dodd (D., Conn.) Congressional Record

Yeah. Substitute "Israeli" for Cambodian and you get what aid we would afford Israel in public. In private we might just aid the Islamists. I think Israel privately understands this. Not so the 7 million American Jews.

39 posted on 02/11/2011 3:07:49 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: BilLies
Obama will not be satisfied until Israel is completely surrounded by Jew-Hating Muslim Governments

Only Jordan is left to the surrounding. And grumblings there.

If Egypt or any muslim country started a war with Israel the rest would join in, including Saudi Arabia.
And several of them have been armed by us with M1A1 tanks, F-15s, F-16s. Modern stuff.

A very bad scenario.
Israel would be forced to use the ultimate weapons for survival.

40 posted on 02/11/2011 3:08:26 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: thefactor

The day Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Classic FR. We all had so much fun!


41 posted on 02/11/2011 3:08:33 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: MrEdd
And if the ObamaNation provides missile and technical cover for the Islamists? Please don't expect a uprising in America.
42 posted on 02/11/2011 3:15:43 PM PST by BilLies (no)
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To: pinochet
Could The Fall Of Mubarak Lead To World War Three?

How Long Before The Fall Of Mubarak Leads To World War Three?


43 posted on 02/11/2011 3:16:19 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: GonzoGOP
The Saudis could make that up out of pocket change if they thought it would buy them some peace from the Muslim Brotherhood. Also with the US facing bankruptcy the money was likely to get scaled back in any case. Lets face it thanks to Obama's trillions of dollars of reckless domestic spending we just don't have the deep pockets necessary for wide scale bribery any more.

Of course you are right. I was just trying to see a small glimmer of hope in this disaster. I am afraid we are in for some rough times.

While channel surfing today I happened to see Tingle Chrissy say that if the Egyptians do not find a FDR then all will be lost. So even the idiot libs might be waking up to this problem.

44 posted on 02/11/2011 3:24:23 PM PST by ProudFossil
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To: colorado tanker
Just how would Egypt “back out” of the peace treaty? Give Sinai back? Start a war?

It is easy. Just ignore it. Look at England and Germany in WWII.

45 posted on 02/11/2011 3:25:51 PM PST by ProudFossil
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To: pinochet
Of course it will. Once the Caliphate gets up and running, they will try and do what Muslims do: spread Islam by any means necessary. It's what they've always done, and this isn't going to be any different. It will be on a bigger scale, though, maybe worldwide this time.

When they go against Israel, if Obama is in power, he will not lift a finger to help them. Israel will survive ( perhaps South Korea will come to their aid); but the US will have sealed it's fate. Remember God's promise to Israel:I will bless those who bless you; and curse those who curse you. We ignore this at our peril.

46 posted on 02/11/2011 3:27:03 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: pinochet
The peace treaty that the late President Anwar Sadat signed with Israel, is extremely unpopular with the Egyptian people.

How do you figure?

47 posted on 02/11/2011 3:28:58 PM PST by K-Stater
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To: BilLies

Obama will not be satisfied until Israel is completely surrounded by Jew-Hating Muslim Governments.<<<<<<

Psalm 83:4


48 posted on 02/11/2011 3:29:59 PM PST by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: BilLies
Do not for a moment believe that Israel's hackers would allow a combined muslim missile defense to function.

They are that good.

49 posted on 02/11/2011 3:30:21 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: colorado tanker

The only concrete action I can think of they could take would be to open the border with Gaza and openly support Hamas.

Ugh! Wonder if the border didn’t disapear as Mubarak’s helicopter took flight! Open Floodgate.


50 posted on 02/11/2011 3:34:20 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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