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Spengler: Chinese weather on Tahrir Square (Must Read)
Asia Times ^ | 2/10/2011 | David "Spengler" Goldman

Posted on 02/11/2011 2:25:29 PM PST by mojito

....Egypt has no oil, insignificant industry, small amounts of natural gas, and 40 million people who are about to become very, very hungry. Without figuring out how to feed the destitute bottom half of the Egyptian population, all the talk of "models" is window-shopping.

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What happens next? Egypt's stock market has collapsed, and its pound has fallen to the lowest level since 2005, with some brokerage-house analysts warning of a 20% decline during the next several weeks. Foreign investors have deserted the market for Egyptian treasury securities, so the central bank will print money to give to the banks to buy government debt.

After half a century of military rule since the 1952 Free Officers' coup, Egypt's wealth is concentrated in the hands of the old regime and its family and friends. If this regime is overthrown, and the corrupt nexus of army and business faces expropriation, the entire liquid wealth of Egypt will make a run for the border, along with its current proprietors.

This is a formula for a classic currency breakdown and galloping inflation, which invariably means panic purchases of commodities and hoarding: a collapse of the Egyptian pound, uncontrolled capital flight, inability to finance a current account deficit in the $15 billion range, and chaos in the Egyptian economy. Egypt might appeal to the international community for help, but the largesse offered to 450,000 Gazans will not extend to the 40 million Egyptians living on less than $2 a day.

Egypt's rulers had a good run as an American client. They have not yet absorbed the enormity of Washington's abandonment of a reasonably faithful and consistent ally.

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: egypt; muslimbrotherhood
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To: RobRoy

I didn’t have much choice in the matter, but I like mine the way it is.


41 posted on 02/11/2011 4:01:04 PM PST by AceMineral (World peace is the hog slop of philosophy.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Those protesters are going to be pissed off as their means of growing food dwindles and the general cost of food world wide increases.


42 posted on 02/11/2011 4:13:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: RobRoy

“They hate us because we are not Muslim...”

And that is why Western Civilization has been wildly successful and innovative. Our system creates wealth and theirs doesn’t.

So, with typical Islamic thinking, they will bring everyone down to the same level: hence, Islamic “Democracy” in a global caliphate.

It means everyone is destitute EXCEPT for the tyrant king who rules. It is Allah’s will — some crap like that!


43 posted on 02/11/2011 4:19:07 PM PST by SatinDoll
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To: JPG
Egypt will have a big industry sewing burqas and that will be about it

Nonesense! The Saudi king has already let the contract to Egypt for the printing of 300,000,000 korans and 2 million each of the other four muslim ‘holy’ books to be distributed in the USA during the reign of King Obama, the One, the Glorious, the Leader of the Muslim Umma, the Caliph, and Antichrist.

44 posted on 02/11/2011 4:26:43 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: mojito

Most of Egypt’s population are uneducated peasants that have lived by the price of bread, subsidized by the state, their entire lives. Nothing good is happening in Egypt. The educated class, those that can actually get a passport stamp to get out, read that as the military officers and connected friends, will be leaving soon. Egypt will be a Muslim Brotherhood, radical state, within 6 months.


45 posted on 02/11/2011 4:26:51 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: SE Mom
definitely read the entire piece at the link

Holy Crap. You ain't kidding.

According to the CIA World Factbook Egypt's GDP is approximately $500 billion. The Mubarak's are worth approximately $50-70 billion. If they and their cronies smell an islamic regime taking power and pull their money out of Egypt what would that be? $200 billion? The $12 billion a year that comes in from tourism is gone. Rising food prices drive down everyone's purchasing power. The government already has $400 billion in debt (according to CIA). They can't print that much money. No one can afford to give them that much aid.

Goodbye pro western moderate muslim Egypt.

Hello Sudan/Zimbabwe times 10.

All on Israel's border.

46 posted on 02/11/2011 4:27:31 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: ken in texas

They do not hate us because of thirty years of Mubarak. They hate us because of the sermons preached every Friday in nearly every mosque. Look them up on memritv.org.


47 posted on 02/11/2011 4:27:34 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Done :)


48 posted on 02/11/2011 4:30:15 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mojito
The upshot, although, Spengler neglects to mention it, is that millions of desperately hungry Egyptians will descend on the museums for the gold and silver, which they will melt down to buy food... if any can be found.

The rest of the antiquities will be torn apart on rumors of hidden treasure...

49 posted on 02/11/2011 4:36:33 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Pan_Yan

It’s breathtaking, isn’t it?

I’ve read it twice just to try and “get it” all...


50 posted on 02/11/2011 4:46:19 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mojito
"Many in Israel have been shocked and dismayed by the inconsistency, bordering on amateurism, of the US response to events in Egypt. First the president, then Hillary Clinton, secretary of state, then again the president's special envoy to Hosni Mubarak, have oscillated between distancing themselves from one of America's staunchest allies and calling for him to step down, further calls for him to do it as soon as possible and then, taking a U-turn, endorsing an "orderly transition" headed by Omar Suleiman, his intelligence chief."

That certainly says it all.

51 posted on 02/11/2011 4:55:14 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The winter wheat in my area could sure use some good moisture. It did get some snow cover to protect it from the recent severe cold, which is something.


52 posted on 02/11/2011 5:02:24 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Egyptian Foreign Minister to Barack Obama: "Boy, go play somewhere else.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Actually, the problem of increased demand for corn does get passed on to wheat and any grain that can be fed to livestock and poultry. China, as a primary case, consumes far more meat, mostly chicken and pork, although a taste for beef is growing, than it ever did before.

If corn costs too much, livestock producers will substitute another grain, even and including wheat. This drives demand, which raises the price for all grains. While indirect, a raise in corn prices has a profound affect on all grain prices. I’ve even heard that some folks are using more potatoes, sugar beets and mangels for livestock feed. So even those items go up in price.


53 posted on 02/11/2011 5:19:00 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: SE Mom

Definitely a good read


54 posted on 02/11/2011 5:21:28 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: Domangart
Who will pay them and feed them with no bucks flowing in.


55 posted on 02/11/2011 6:03:06 PM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: kbennkc

Cutesy name calling doesn’t count for much off a playground.


56 posted on 02/11/2011 6:49:23 PM PST by Orbiter
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To: mojito
Another great article by Spengler. The starvation scenario is the perfect setup for a MB 'intervention'. This whole Mubarak out Now movement stinks to high heaven and has Obama's fingerprints all over it.

I have great respect for Spengler. First ran into him in the summer of 2008 when things were heating up for the election. He wrote an article in February, 2008 in Asia Times: Obama's women reveal his secret in which he said, " Obama's women reveal his secret: he hates America. . . The probable next president of the United States is a mother's revenge against the America she despised. . . When Ann Dunham chose to follow Lolo Soetero to Indonesia in 1967, she brought the six-year-old Barack into the kitchen of anti-colonialist outrage. . . Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. . . He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States."

About the same time I read, Barack H. Obama, The Unauthorized Biography,

I was in shock for weeks after I read these two articles and passed them on to everyone I knew. This was before my FR days. I told people, "Man, this guy can't be elected President. . He'll destroy the country." My friends who read these two article were equally shocked and agreed. I still remember election night in Washington D.C. and those people waving the old USSR flags with the hammer and sickle. .

Now, here we are. . Now what? We all work full bore to make sure he doesn't get reelected in 2012. I highly recommend those two articles if you haven't read them. Very sobering. . .

57 posted on 02/11/2011 7:10:12 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Orbiter
Cutesy name calling doesn’t count for much off a playground.

Do you go through this policing exercise every time one of us calls a democrat a rat?

58 posted on 02/11/2011 7:14:00 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: SE Mom

bfl


59 posted on 02/11/2011 7:15:36 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: mojito
China Drought Global Food Crisis To Trigger Many More Egypts

China Drought Could Be Worst In 200 Years

60 posted on 02/11/2011 7:33:00 PM PST by blam
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