Egyptians Hate America and Want Islamic Rule (Zogby, Pew Polling Data)

Fort Liberty ^ | Joe Rock

[Responsibility2nd]

In July of last year, the University of Maryland commissioned Zogby to poll the people of Egypt. Here are a few of their findings:

• 85% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S.
• 87% of Egyptians have no confidence in the U.S.
• 92% of Egyptians believe the U.S. is one of two nations that is the greatest threat to them (the other nation the Egyptian people hate is Israel)
• 52% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable opinion of American people
• 65% of Egyptians believe that Islamic clergy must play a greater role in the Egyptian political system
• 79% percent of Egyptians believe that it would be positive if Iran is able to acquire nuclear weapons

The Zogby poll results back up a similar project conducted by Pew in April and May of last year.  Among Egyptian Muslims polled, 85% felt that Islam’s role in politics was a positive one.  In a struggle between modernizers and Islamist fundamentalists, 59% of Egyptians who foresaw such a conflict stated they would side with the Islamists, while only 27% stated that they would side with the modernizers.

Another Pew poll last June revealed that only 17% of Egyptians hold a favorable view of the United States, while 20% hold a favorable view of suicide bombing.  Yes dear readers, Egyptians like suicide bombing more than they like you.

Pew also revealed that 82% of Egyptian Muslims support stoning human beings to death for having sex outside of marriage and that  77% of Egyptian Muslims support public whippings and cutting people’s hands off for theft.  In addition, a terrifying 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for anyone who has the good sense to leave the religion of Islam.

As much as we may not like Hosni Mubarak, there are many worse people who could be in power in Egypt — and they are very likely to be in power before the end of the year.   We would all like to believe that the protesters in the streets of Egypt are all fighting for freedom — but that is not what they say about themselves.  By their own admission, they prefer Islamic fundamentalism to modern civilization by more than 2 to 1.  They don’t want a modern democracy; they do want to murder people for having sex outside of marriage.  They don’t want freedom of religion — in fact 84% of them want to establish the death penalty for it.

What does this sound like?  It sounds a whole lot like Iran in 1979.  Westerners with common sense should be leaving Egypt as quickly as possible, with no plans to ever return. We would like to hope for the best, but we must plan for the worst.

[Responsibility2nd]

I heard Sean Hannity rolling off scary numbers on his radio show today. Thought I'd gather some data and share....

[Doogle]

but but but Dumbo said, he said.....that things are better now..

[barbarianbabs]

go eat sand

[GenY Republican]

Yeah we want ‘secular’ democracy. Idiotic statements by Red Blue in PA.

There is alot more than meets the eye.

[PGR88]

Ladies - time to break out those burkhas
Guys - hide that whiskey!
Girls - put down those books
Boys - Uncle Achmed is coming to visit, and he wants to see YOU!

[Responsibility2nd]

Editorial: What Egyptians Really Want 

Posted 02/10/2011 07:20 PM ET

Islamofascism: Romantics in Western media expect "democracy" to flower from the anti-Mubarak rioting in Cairo. But polling shows Egyptians actually seek strict Islamic rule.

According to a major survey conducted last year by the Pew Research Center, adults in Egypt don't crave Western-style democracy, as pundits have blithely trumpeted throughout coverage of the unrest.

Far from it, the vast majority of them want a larger role for Islam in government. This includes making barbaric punishments, such as stoning adulterers and executing apostates, the law of their country. With the ouster of their secular, pro-American leader, they may get their wish.

Among highlights from the Pew poll:

• 49% of Egyptians say Islam plays only a "small role" in public affairs under President Hosni Mubarak, while 95% prefer the religion play a "large role in politics."

• 84% favor the death penalty for people who leave the Muslim faith.

• 82% support stoning adulterers.

• 77% think thieves should have their hands cut off.

• 54% support a law segregating women from men in the workplace.

• 54% believe suicide bombings that kill civilians can be justified.

• Nearly half support the terrorist group Hamas.

• 30% have a favorable opinion of Hezbollah.

• 20% maintain positive views of al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden.

• 82% of Egyptians dislike the U.S. — the highest unfavorable rating among the 18 Muslim nations Pew surveyed.

This empirical evidence refutes the sympathetic narrative broadcast as a continuous loop in the media over the past fortnight. Even after getting beat up by anti-American mobs, CNN's Anderson Cooper portrayed rioters as largely secular yuppies yearning for modernity and the triumph of human rights over martial law.

He and other media elite have it exactly backwards: Egyptians are revolting against Western-style democracy. The Pew poll reveals they do not, in fact, value our principles of individual freedoms, human rights and separation of religion and state.

It is plain they do not want what we want. They want an Islamic theocracy.

And it's highly irresponsible for pundits to assume they want what we do. This is serious business, and we need to deal with facts and reality on the ground and not project our values to make ourselves feel good. The media fatuously whipped up support for a "revolution" at odds with our values and interests.

Now, with a U.S. ally expected to step down, the damage may already be done. The well-organized Muslim Brotherhood, previously outlawed by Mubarak, is in the best position to take advantage of the prevailing sentiment recorded by Pew.

[SE Mom]

Thanks for posting this important information.

[Gaffer]

Hmmmmmm....take the percentages above and average them. Then nuke exactly that percentage of Egypt.....lets do this on a land mass basis. Let’s start with Cairo, Alexandria, the Nile Basin, and the like, the rest of the desert we can count as the ‘untouched’ part.

[1000 silverlings]

and Anderson and Shep-— get married quick!

[SECURE AMERICA]

Until we elect a LEADER as President none of this matters.

[exnavy]

There’s an easy 100 billion of cuts to our budget. No point in sending aid to a nation that hates us.

[La Lydia]

They will starve in the dark, enslaved by the Musim Brotherhood. They have jumped off of a cliff, their timing is awful, and I seriously doubt the Saudis are doing to step in and save them.

[terycarl]

well, let’s see now, Egypt depends, for its financial security, on the Suez Canal and TOURISM.....a large percentage of those tourists are either Americans of those in alliance with them. Without our dollars being spent there, they would be basically a camel farm with a few piles of worthless rocks.

[Wpin]

I wonder how one goes about getting a valid polling result in a dictatorship?

[Jack Hammer]

When these morons get a taste of Iran-style rule by clergy, they’ll change their tune. By then, of course, it’ll be too late.

Congratulations, fellahs; in future, be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.

[oneamericanvoice]

Why would you say to “go eat sand”? The person’s post was about Obama, and he did say that things are getting better.

[Responsibility2nd]

They will starve in the dark, enslaved by the Musim Brotherhood. They have jumped off of a cliff, their timing is awful, and I seriously doubt the Saudis are doing to step in and save them.

 

 

Tru Dat

 

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  ....Egypt has no oil, insignificant industry, small amounts of natural gas, and 40 million people who are about to become very, very hungry. Without figuring out how to feed the destitute bottom half of the Egyptian population, all the talk of "models" is window-shopping. [....] What happens next? Egypt's stock market has collapsed, and its pound has fallen to the lowest level since 2005, with some brokerage-house analysts warning of a 20% decline during the next several weeks. Foreign investors have deserted the market for Egyptian treasury securities, so the central bank will print money to give to the banks...

 

 

 

Oh. But wait...

 

Buck O. Fama to the rescue!!!!!

• U.S. Preparing Aid Package For Egypt Opposition

  Friday, February 11, 2011 4:38:22 PM · by chessplayer · 20 replies

  http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2048527,00.html ^

  White House officials declined to say whether any of the new money would go directly or indirectly to the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt's most prominent Islamic party.

They will starve in the dark, enslaved by the Musim Brotherhood. They have jumped off of a cliff, their timing is awful, and I seriously doubt the Saudis are doing to step in and save them.

[mel]

that is what i think, but what do i know

[CardeadInKy]

and 100% of Egyptions “LOVE” the billions of dollars the USA gives them every year!

[mel]

that is what i think, but what do i know

[Responsibility2nd]

I wonder how one goes about getting a valid polling result in a dictatorship?

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Count the number of severed heads and multiply by stoning victims and factor in the hands-less people.

[bill1952]

I know a few Egyptians right here in America.
In fact they own a restaurant in Collegeville, Pa, and their hatred and disdain for America & Americans is thinly disguised and quite apparent.
People are surprised the Egyptians in Egypt don’t like us?

P.S, you can’t beat something with nothing. They do have something...

[oneamericanvoice]

Bet they don’t hate our money.

[bill1952]

Not so long ago, the USSR was Egypt’s #1 benefactor.
They, or the ChiComs, are just waiting to step in, either directly, or through a client state such as Iran.

It is going to happen

[EverOnward]

Egyptians Hate America and Want Islamic Rule

They have so much in common with our dear leader. Little wonder they’re all so giddy at the White House.

[Wpin]

“I wonder how one goes about getting a valid polling result in a dictatorship?

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Count the number of severed heads and multiply by stoning victims and factor in the hands-less people.”

Exactly...

[Jack Hammer]

Come 2012, they’ll be lookimg back on the rule of Hosni Mubarak as “the goo0d ol’ days.”

[DanMiller]

Dumbo said, he said.....that things are better now..

From his perspective they are.

[Red in Blue PA]

Almost nobody here has any confidence in the US govt (including me), but now suddenly everyone does.

What a strange thing to watch.

[MizSterious]

Thanks for posting this. It’s pretty much as I suspected. I think the entire free world will rue this day.

[Twinkie]

So - Community Organizers been community organizing over there for a while. I’ve heard Code Pink and Wm. Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn were a presence over there in recent months???? Now Obama thinks he’s pulling the wool over our STUPID eyes with his recent show of moderation and religiosity. Oh, and yeah, Uncle Sucker keeps coughing up the foreign aid, but he’s hated for it. Israel can’t get a break either. If the imams take over, it’ll be a case of “if Egyptians think they’ve seen oppression, they ain’t seen nothing yet”.

[GOPJ]

And we give them - what? A billion or so for this? Time to save some money...

[La Lydia]

Oh great. We’re going to borrow MORE MONEY FROM CHINA to prop up the Muzlim Brotherhood regime in Egypt.

[ColdOne]

Glad you posted this. It needs to be posted. Then again would it do any good? We all know this, well most of us here do. Then some want this in the ME. We know this White House does.

[funfan]

And the media will never report it-they used them for Obama

[Freee-dame]

Ladies - time to break out those burkhas

I saw lots of veiled women in the celebrating Egyptian crowds today on TV. What cover picture did Yahoo choose for its link to a set of 39 pictures? ...a young woman in western clothes near a nice car. Not one of the 39 pictures had a woman in focus. The media lies by omission and comission.

[North Coast Conservative]

It is absolutley amazing to me that anyone would want a seat on the Islamic Way-Back machine.

Mom, how do you explain to your daughter that having a cliterectomy and living a life in fear of your husband is right?

Dad, explain to your son that Uncle Mo is coming, and that "your a$$ is his for however he wants to use it."

Daughter: this is the Iron Maiden piece of cloth that you will wear whenever you go out in public.

Wife, if you don't do what I say I will throw acid in your face, cut off your nose, and perhaps behead you, you bitch.

Why anyone would rush into a seventh century world ruled by mysogynistic pedophiles who rule their families by terror is beyond me.

Thomas Jefferson had the right approach to the Muslims, but there are no stones in Washington large enough to take that approach to Islam.

Prayers for the innocent men, women, and children committing cultural suicide.

[re_nortex]

85% of Egyptians hold an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S.

100% of everyone I polled today hold an unfavorable attitude toward Mooselimbs and Egypt.

[re_nortex]

Thomas Jefferson had the right approach to the Muslims, but there are no stones in Washington large enough to take that approach to Islam.

Now, more than ever Ann Coulter's approach toward these evil Mohammedans also is also bold, courageous and wise:

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

[ketelone]

"ALLAH-LALALALALALA!!!!!"

[popdonnelly]

Between the Egyptian military and the Islamists, I don’t see anything like a democratic republic on the horizon for Egypt.

[airborne]

Zogby’s Special Sharia Sauce!

[Bluebeard16]

I liked the remark by the Donald at CPAC as to why we keep sending billions to countries who all they want to do is screw us. The man has a way with words!

[La Enchiladita]

Did they poll males only?

[worst-case scenario]

We only have 5,113 nuclear warheads, according to the figures released last May. Will that be enough to kill as many as you think need to be eliminated?

[La Enchiladita]

I think the entire free world will rue this day.

I think the Free World is pretty much history at this point, given that the most stupid people in the world voted in B. HUSSEIN Obama as POTUS which then sent a message to the "muslim world:" Green light.

[EnquiringMind]

go eat sand

Huh? Go ingest DUmmy excrement.

[La Enchiladita]

The media lies by omission and comission.

Correct. Egypt and the universal rights of women

You will not see or hear any of the above in the MSM.

[re_nortex]

I think the Free World is pretty much history at this point, given that the most stupid people in the world voted in B. HUSSEIN Obama as POTUS which then sent a message to the "muslim world:" Green light.

The naive fools over at Kos are trumpeting the 'RAT view with this headline:

Egypt just gave us al Qaeda's worst Nightmare

Neville Chamberlain has been outdone.

[Talf]

why are we helping our enemies?