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Freed gun owner Brian Aitken visits tea-party meeting
philly.com ^ | 12 Feb 2011 | Jason Nark

Posted on 02/12/2011 7:42:44 AM PST by smokingfrog

INSIDE a grange hall in a rural stretch of South Jersey, hundreds of men and women who've embraced tea-party politics cast skeptical glances and tough questions when their local Republican congressman took the stage.

"Why don't you ever come to our meetings? How do you expect our grandchildren to be able to live in this world?" they asked U.S. Rep. Frank LoBiondo.

One man questioned LoBiondo about death camps of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), a popular conspiracy theory on the far right, and his suspicions seemed confirmed when the the congressman didn't know what he was talking about.

But after the guest of honor, Brian Aitken, spoke to the Greenwich Tea Party Patriots of South Jersey about his arrest, conviction and prison sentence for having handguns he purchased legally in Colorado, the crowd was smitten and wanted to know two things in particular.

"Did you get your guns back?" two men asked Aitken, who stood on a bare stage with an American flag and a Gadsden flag, which shows a coiled rattlesnake poised to strike.

The other question is something Aitken's been getting quite a bit since Gov. Chris Christie commuted his seven-year prison sentence on Dec. 20.

"Do you have any political aspirations?" asked Matt Pinto, of Hammonton.

"Yeah," Aitken said, "to stay out of politics."

"Oh, come on, we need more people like you to get involved," Pinto replied.

The speaking engagement on a recent Tuesday night in Salem County was Aitken's first public appearance since his story made international headlines last year. He said he chose the Greenwich Tea Party because it focuses on educating people about the Constitution, but he has more speaking engagements lined up in coming months.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; grassroots

1 posted on 02/12/2011 7:42:48 AM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

The writer did not miss a trick. Notice the composition of the photo. The man with the wolly beard was dead center in photo. They want to protray him as a “mountain man” and typical of the T-Party.

Then they mentioned the nonsense about “death camps” and other black helicopter stuff.

I hate the bias of the press, it is destroying the nation. Certainly aiding and abetting Obozo’s destruction of the nation.


2 posted on 02/12/2011 8:21:07 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

LOL. If they want to see “mountain men”, they should come our TP meetings. They could have a field day with pictures. Some of the smartest men I’ve ever known.


3 posted on 02/12/2011 8:33:54 AM PST by WVNan
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To: Texas Fossil

The best part of the article is where Brian says he should have just kept his mouth shut and asked for a lawyer. He had not threatened anyone and they had no right to search his car, but he let them do it because HE THOUGHT is was innocent of any wrong-doing.


4 posted on 02/12/2011 8:44:49 AM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: WVNan
“mountain men”

I meant nothing derogatory, I lived in NM for 14 years and I know exactly what you're talking about. 2 types that were smarter than most people understand: semi-hippie dropouts and "mountain men" type recluses. I knew both types and some were extremely well educated and street savy. I do not pre-conceive people, but many people who read the press coverage do.

5 posted on 02/12/2011 8:52:34 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: smokingfrog

Yep, he thought. And I’ll bet now he has tempered his confidence in the “justice” system where he lives.

I would invite him to Texas, we are a “bit” more tolerant when it comes to weapons. (guns & other)


6 posted on 02/12/2011 8:54:28 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: smokingfrog

>He had not threatened anyone and they had no right to search his car, but he let them do it because HE THOUGHT is was innocent of any wrong-doing.

And *THAT* is one reason you should *NEVER* talk to the police.

You’ve probably seen this, but in case someone hasn’t I’m posting the link:
http://www.youtube.com/v/i8z7NC5sgik&hl=en&fs=1


7 posted on 02/12/2011 9:09:57 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: smokingfrog
Freed gun owner Brian Aitken

No. Aitken can never touch a gun against as long as he lives. He is a felon now, and the oh-so-great Gov. Christie would not commute the felony, only the sentence.

Brian Aitken is now what all disarmed free men become: a slave.

8 posted on 02/12/2011 10:49:42 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: backwoods-engineer
I believe is conviction is on appeal. Hopefully, he will win.
The judge in that case was a real low-life jerk.

Aitken’s chances of having the conviction overturned are good, but even if he is not successful, they can always go back and ask Christie to clear his record once he has exhausted his appeals. Nappen’s continuing legal appeal of the conviction could take six to nine months

9 posted on 02/12/2011 10:56:43 AM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: Texas Fossil
Then they mentioned the nonsense about “death camps” and other black helicopter stuff.

Certainly! Of course OUR armed forces would never participate in such things. That must be why they're training for it.


10 posted on 02/12/2011 11:31:29 AM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

Yes, there has been training on controling civil disobedience.

BUT, much of what is said about it is far overeaching even Obozo’s menions. I do not discount that they are capable of thinking/talking about any stupid thing, however, actually being a threat is another matter.

Subjection of the population in Texas if seriously considered would be an exercise in awakening. Even the military would refuse to participate.

If a serious attempt at subjection takes place it will be by foreign troops. The good old boys would certainly take a toll on that nonsense throught out the South and West. Up North and in the Cities, another matter.


11 posted on 02/12/2011 12:50:47 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: archy

I don’t know what website you posted that pic from, but I got a weird certificate request. Did not at first associate it with the pic.


12 posted on 02/12/2011 12:52:27 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: smokingfrog

One things I have thought about.

If I visit a city on the PA/NJ border and get onto the highway, but would somehow mistakenly get onto it in the wrong direction (east instead of west), I would go into NJ by accident. And because I am always carrying, I would be a criminal.

Where else is the law written which demands 100% perfection of someone lest they make a simple human error (wrong lane/wrong direction.....who hasn’t done that at some point) to be labeled a felon?

I believe that such an argument could be made in court and won. (though I never intend on trying it).

It is simple challenges like this which the NRA does not make which frustrates the hell out of me.


13 posted on 02/12/2011 2:21:03 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: backwoods-engineer

Bingo!

Christie is no hero of Conservatism.....indeed, he is anathema to it.


14 posted on 02/12/2011 2:23:34 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

Sometimes it’s difficult to know exactly what the law is in your own state, let alone all 57 states.

I think NJ might as well just put up a sign at the border warning you to not bring any guns into the state and give you a one or two mile safe zone to turn around and leave without being prosecuted.


15 posted on 02/12/2011 2:29:00 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: smokingfrog

Went to Cabela’s today and OC’d. A lot of NY/NJers there on weekends. You can always tell who they are by their half dollar sized eyeballs when they see freedom being exercised.


16 posted on 02/12/2011 2:34:07 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: backwoods-engineer
Gov. Christie would not commute the felony, only the sentence.

He was not asked to pardon the felony. He was asked to commute the sentence to get Brian out of jail while he continues to argue that he was improperly sentenced in the first place.

A pardon (which is still possible at a future point) would have removed his legal standing to argue that the judge did not hear the case properly.

17 posted on 02/12/2011 2:35:08 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Who cares if he was “asked” that specifically?

A full pardon was clearly the right thing to do in this case.


18 posted on 02/12/2011 2:40:33 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: archy

Needs more garbage, raw sewage, half-starved children, Katyusha’s, mortars, small arms fire.


19 posted on 02/12/2011 2:44:23 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: Red in Blue PA
Who cares if he was “asked” that specifically?

The law.

A full pardon was clearly the right thing to do in this case.

So it is a good thing for a public official to do something to someone "for their own good" even if they did not ask for it and do not want it?

Do you really want to start down that trail?

20 posted on 02/12/2011 3:10:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Do you even know that facts of the Aitken case?

Anything short of a full and complete pardon is a travesty.

Stop being an apologist for Christie.


21 posted on 02/12/2011 3:20:48 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA
Do you even know that facts of the Aitken case?

Yes.

Anything short of a full and complete pardon is a travesty.

Actually the travesty is that this case ever was brought. A pardon does not make that go away and it does not stop it from happening in the future. The course Aitkins is pursuing now will force the state to rule on and clarify the law. You wish to stop him. Do you want this to happen in the future?

Stop being an apologist for Christie.

Stop being an advocate for big daddy government.

You are pushing for government to do things to Brian Aitkins for his "own good" that he has neither asked for or wants.

He is an adult you know. Fully capable of make decisions without your help or advise.

22 posted on 02/12/2011 3:45:57 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: primeval patriot
Needs more garbage, raw sewage, half-starved children, Katyusha’s, mortars, small arms fire.

Already taken.

23 posted on 02/12/2011 3:56:11 PM PST by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
A pardon does not make that go away

A pardon would restore Brian Aitken's gun rights.....that should be of paramount interest to everyone.

You are pushing for government to do things to Brian Aitkins for his "own good" that he has neither asked for or wants.

I am pushing for Aitken's 2A rights to be restored, and not "big daddy" govt. Let's not throw around accusations which are not even close to being true.
24 posted on 02/13/2011 5:37:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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