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Woman, 61, gives birth to own grandchild
Chicago Tribune ^ | 2/12/2011 | Deborah L. Shelton

Posted on 02/12/2011 10:40:04 AM PST by Krankor

Almost 39 weeks ago, Kristine Casey set out on an unusual journey to help her daughter and answer a spiritual calling.

Her goal was achieved late Wednesday when she gave birth to her own grandson at age 61.

Casey, possibly the oldest women to give birth in Illinois, served as a surrogate for her daughter, Sara Connell, who had been trying for years to have a baby. Connell and her husband, Bill, are the biological parents of the child Casey carried, which grew from an embryo created from the Chicago couple's egg and sperm.

Crying and praying, Connell and her mother held hands as Finnean Lee Connell was delivered by cesarean section at 9:47 p.m.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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To: Pearls Before Swine

Granny lives in Virginia, so I doubt they’ll be using her too much as a babysitter. By the way, one of the posters on the Trib site made a very good point. The mother has two sibling sisters, yet she allowed her 61 year old mother to carry the baby. Sounds like all her kids aren’t too concerned about the granny.


21 posted on 02/12/2011 11:48:47 AM PST by Krankor (And he's oh, so good, And he's oh, so fine, And he's oh, so healthy, In his body and his mind)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; Ann Archy
No vaccines for me!

This has nothing to do with medicine and everything to do with morality. Just because it's possible to do something doesn't mean one should. So, does this mean no morality for you either?

22 posted on 02/12/2011 11:48:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
It seems that you don't understand IVF. Do you think the first embryo/baby implanted always takes? It doesn't.

And I doubt they'll "use those later". The Grandmother is 61 now and past the time of comfort.

24 posted on 02/12/2011 11:52:07 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Nope, infertility, like any other disease, is a curse from God.

The whole earth is condemned because of sin and it wasn't God's sin.

They are mocking him by using modern medicine.

They are playing God. How many babies do you suppose died before one implanted?

I bet the kid has no soul.

You sound very liberal.

25 posted on 02/12/2011 11:55:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yes. From “Instruction on respect for human life”

“Development of the practice of in vitro fertilization has required innumerable fertilizations and destructions of human embryos. Even today, the usual practice presupposes a hyperovulation on the part of the woman: a number of ova are withdrawn, fertilized and then cultivated in vitro for some days. Usually not all are transferred into the genital tracts of the woman; some embryos, generally called “spare “, are destroyed or frozen. On occasion, some of the implanted embryos are sacrificed for various eugenic, economic or psychological reasons. Such deliberate destruction of human beings or their utilization for different purposes to the detriment of their integrity and life is contrary to the doctrine on procured abortion already recalled. The connection between in vitro fertilization and the voluntary destruction of human embryos occurs too often. This is significant: through these procedures, with apparently contrary purposes, life and death are subjected to the decision of man, who thus sets himself up as the giver of life and death by decree.
This dynamic of violence and domination may remain unnoticed by those very individuals who, in wishing to utilize this procedure, become subject to it themselves. The facts recorded and the cold logic which links them must be taken into consideration for a moral judgment on IVF and ET (in vitro fertilization and embryo transfer): the abortion-mentality which has made this procedure possible thus leads, whether one wants it or not, to man’s domination over the life and death of his fellow human beings and can lead to a system of radical eugenics. “

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19870222_respect-for-human-life_en.html


26 posted on 02/12/2011 11:57:23 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Willful ignorance is a sin.


27 posted on 02/12/2011 12:01:56 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: DJ MacWoW
From the same source, there is also this, which I believe is a beautiful insight into love between a husband and wife:

1. WHY MUST HUMAN PROCREATION TAKE PLACE IN MARRIAGE?

Every human being is always to be accepted as a gift and blessing of God. However, from the moral point of view a truly responsible procreation vis-à-vis the unborn child must be the fruit of marriage.

For human procreation has specific characteristics by virtue of the personal dignity of the parents and of the children: the procreation of a new person, whereby the man and the woman collaborate with the power of the Creator, must be the fruit and the sign of the mutual self-giving of the spouses, of their love and of their fidelity.(34) The fidelity of the spouses in the unity of marriage involves reciprocal respect of their right to become a father and a mother only through each other. The child has the right to be conceived, carried in the womb, brought into the world and brought up within marriage: it is through the secure and recognized relationship to his own parents that the child can discover his own identity and achieve his own proper human development.

The parents find in their child a confirmation and completion of their reciprocal self-giving: the child is the living image of their love, the permanent sign of their conjugal union, the living and indissoluble concrete expression of their paternity and maternity, (35) By reason of the vocation and social responsibilities of the person, the good of the children and of the parents contributes to the good of civil society; the vitality and stability of society require that children come into the world within a family and that the family be firmly based on marriage. The tradition of the Church and anthropological reflection recognize in marriage and in its indissoluble unity the only setting worthy of truly responsible procreation.

28 posted on 02/12/2011 12:02:16 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Every child has a soul.


29 posted on 02/12/2011 12:03:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: marsh2

Check out all the comments. Only you and me have this opinion. Normally I am against such intervention but not here because it is within the family. From the photo “Granny” looks pretty healthy and happy and able to cope. So good all around. Granny did for her daughter and granddaughter.


30 posted on 02/12/2011 12:12:38 PM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: Krankor

Why do people go through this much trouble when there are SO many kids in the foster system who would love a forever family? I just don’t get.


31 posted on 02/12/2011 12:13:18 PM PST by DreamingWest
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To: Ann Archy
DISGUSTING!!!! God will NOT be mocked.

How is God mocked.

32 posted on 02/12/2011 12:14:30 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: DreamingWest
Why do people go through this much trouble when there are SO many kids in the foster system who would love a forever family? I just don’t get.

They brought a new life and soul into the universe. If not, the child's soul would be wandering aimlessly forever.

33 posted on 02/12/2011 12:16:49 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: DreamingWest

Well, for one thing, they apparently have a lot of money. And the mother is some kind of professional life coach who preaches womens’ empowerment. I have no idea what kind of philosophy she promotes, but maybe it’s along the lines of, “if you have a goal, go for it”. Oddly enough, the husband seems to be a somewhat secondary character in this whole thing. Maybe she has a very strong personality and he just kinda acquiesces.


34 posted on 02/12/2011 12:24:24 PM PST by Krankor (And he's oh, so good, And he's oh, so fine, And he's oh, so healthy, In his body and his mind)
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To: SeeSac

Why do people go through this much trouble when there are SO many kids in the foster system who would love a forever family? I just don’t get.
They brought a new life and soul into the universe. If not, the child’s soul would be wandering aimlessly forever

WOW, so the fact that a child who is already here has to live in the foster system, unloved, without being truly wanted is better than some some “soul wandering aimlessly”? I’m just curious as to where your proof for this is.
I see a lot of foster kids where I am, not so many souls wandering.


35 posted on 02/12/2011 12:24:51 PM PST by DreamingWest
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To: SeeSac
If not, the child's soul would be wandering aimlessly forever.

No. And your statement has no Scriptural basis.

36 posted on 02/12/2011 12:26:00 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“They are playing God. How many babies do you suppose died before one implanted?”

Exactly! They need to be charged with murder. Just like everyone else who has sex that doesn’t result in a child.


38 posted on 02/12/2011 12:38:23 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
They aren’t real children. They’re scientific experiments.

Disgustingly sick post.

39 posted on 02/12/2011 12:38:30 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: chris_bdba

I don’t know, but you’re right that there may also be some downstream risks that were elevated by very high age of mother.


40 posted on 02/12/2011 12:40:51 PM PST by DrC
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