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Breaking: North Dakota House passes bill criminalizing killing unborn from conception
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/11/11 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 02/12/2011 12:39:05 PM PST by wagglebee

BISMARCK, North Dakota, February 11, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A strong majority of lawmakers in the North Dakota House of Representatives on Friday afternoon passed a law that would make it illegal to murder any human being from the moment of their conception.

The Defense of Human Life Act, HB 1450, recognizes every human being at any stage of development as a person under state law with a right to protection.

“The overwhelming community and legislative support for HB 1450 proves that North Dakota could be the first state to recognize the value and dignity of every living human being,” stated Representative Dan Ruby. “The Defense of Human Life Act is just common sense. Of course every human being is a person, and every innocent person should receive legal protection. I am motivated to see women and children protected by HB 1450, and I look forward to its passage in the Senate in the near future.”

While the bill prohibits chemical abortifiacients such as RU-486, it does not apply to emergency contraception, or other “contraception administered before a clinically diagnosable pregnancy.” The bill also exempts legitimate medical procedures that may lead to the death of children in the womb when a woman’s life is in danger. The bill also exempts pregnant women seeking abortions from criminal prosecution.

The bill, supported by ND Right to Life, ND Life League, ND Family Alliance, ND CWFA, and the ND Catholic Conference, passed 68-25 in Friday’s vote.

Daniel Woodard, a legal consultant for North Dakota Right to Life and the North Dakota Life League, told LifeSiteNews.com that the bill would put the one remaining abortion clinic in the state out of business. “This bill should shut down that clinic,” said Woodard.

While the bill also bans the killing of frozen embryos produced by in-vitro fertilization, Woodard said, it would leave the implementation of new regulations to the medical community. “In North Dakota, the legislature has confidence in its medical professional groups to regulate itself,” he said.

While pro-lifers are optimistic about the bill’s survival in the Senate, Woodard said that supporters would “be taking no chances” and continue to lobby for its passage. A vote in the Senate is expected around March 10.

North Dakota Gov. Jack Dalrymple has not stated whether or not he plans to sign the bill.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; northdakota; personhood; prolife
A law like this is necessary to go to the Supreme Court so they will hopefully recognize the personhood rights of the unborn.
1 posted on 02/12/2011 12:39:10 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 02/12/2011 12:40:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 02/12/2011 12:41:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

YEA!


4 posted on 02/12/2011 12:41:20 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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5 posted on 02/12/2011 12:42:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

God bless North Dakota. This is fantastic news in these days of quite the opposite. May all their efforts be successful in implementing this law in the days to come.


6 posted on 02/12/2011 12:44:12 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: wagglebee

Woo hoo & praise the Lord! May God strengthen these people - this is just the beginning of what will be a long battle.


7 posted on 02/12/2011 12:44:15 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: wagglebee

great news


8 posted on 02/12/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: wagglebee

Excellent. It’s also going to be hard for the pro-death crowd to wail about “the return to back alley abortions” in the wake of Gosnell’s house of horrors.


9 posted on 02/12/2011 12:45:19 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: theKid51

ping


10 posted on 02/12/2011 12:46:42 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: wagglebee

Good for North Dakota!


11 posted on 02/12/2011 12:49:04 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: wagglebee

I think in 50 years every state will have passed such a law and people will look back on the post-Roe v. Wade years with horror wondering “what were they thinking”?

The carnage vastly exceeds that done by the Nazis during the Holocaust. And we wonder how German citizens could have stood idly by watching that happen or even actively facilitating it.

By the end of next year, total U.S. abortions since 1973 (48M through 2008; http://voiceofrevolution.askdrbrown.org/2009/01/18/abortion-statistics/) will exceed total deaths during WWII
(http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/statistics.htm)


12 posted on 02/12/2011 12:50:44 PM PST by DrC
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
The bill, supported by ND Right to Life, ND Life League, ND Family Alliance, ND CWFA, and the ND Catholic Conference, passed 68-25 in Friday's vote.
Thanks wagglebee.


13 posted on 02/12/2011 12:51:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: wagglebee
FANTASTIC!


14 posted on 02/12/2011 12:52:36 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: wagglebee
" The bill also exempts pregnant women seeking abortions from criminal prosecution. "

Doesn't this provision sort of invalidate the main thrust of the bill? What am I missing?

15 posted on 02/12/2011 12:53:45 PM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: wagglebee
NOW, Planned Parenthood, the DNC and Nancy Pelosi all have the vapors.
16 posted on 02/12/2011 12:58:02 PM PST by JPG (Work for conservative change like your country depended on it.)
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To: wagglebee
The hypocritical exemptions still apply?
17 posted on 02/12/2011 12:58:11 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: wagglebee

It’s a start!


18 posted on 02/12/2011 12:59:55 PM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: wagglebee

Note too that states are taking the lead in not only rights, but responsibilities with all sorts of things: taxes, regs, spending, border control , the economy, the Constitution. That is a welcome sight in this Federal Mish Mosh we face from DC.


19 posted on 02/12/2011 1:12:44 PM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: wagglebee
A law like this is necessary to go to the Supreme Court so they will hopefully recognize the personhood rights of the unborn.

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Agreed. This is a federal issue.

20 posted on 02/12/2011 1:14:29 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Proud of North Dakota!!! WTG!!


21 posted on 02/12/2011 1:18:08 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: trisham
Unfortunately the Federal government doesn't care. The states are the only ones pursing this.

If anything the Feds will shut down states like ND that try enact laws like this.
22 posted on 02/12/2011 1:22:12 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: wagglebee

They are not going to “recognize the personhood” of the unborn from conception. The problem is that the law since the founding of the Nation has always been that the unborn do not become humans with rights until “quickening” which is generally when they start to move about. Most of the States nevertheless had laws prohibiting abortion from very soon after the Constitution was enacted. It was considered that even if the fetus was not a human, the State government still had the power to regulate abortion. On the other hand, there was nothing to prevent any particular State from allowing abortion.

Roe declared all those statutes prohibiting abortion unConstitutional in 1973. The most that the Supreme Court is going to do is overturn Roe, and go back to the pre-Roe law, which was that States could prohibit abortion, if they want, but they don’t have to. More likely, they will simply read Roe very narrowly, holding that the only thing Roe means is that you can’t put someone in jail for having an abortion.

I don’t think the Court would issue that kind of a ruling with the current Justices, but a switch of say two votes might make it happen.


23 posted on 02/12/2011 1:25:14 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: matthew fuller
Doesn't this provision sort of invalidate the main thrust of the bill?

Not everyone supports that particular aspect, but it is done for a reason. A doctor who sets up shop to make money from murdering babies is the real target here. The poor, scared desperate woman who is trying to make the "smart choice" by killing her child, is someone who could be sent to prison for 20 years under other forms of this type of law, but North Dakota is choosing not to be punitive toward her, and is trying to see her as a sort of victim as well. It's the medical establishment that is the easier, and more fruitful, target.

As I say, not everyone would agree with the strategy, but one can see why is would be chosen to garner easier political support.

24 posted on 02/12/2011 1:29:33 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (BO + MB = BOMB -- The One will make sure they get one.)
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To: wagglebee

“The bill also exempts pregnant women seeking abortions from criminal prosecution.”

If they are not going to prosecute women who kill or attempt to murder babies, why would they bother with passing such a law?

Put some teeth in this law and prosecute women who have or attempt to have abortions just as they would prosecute women who murder or attempt to murder a two year old child.


25 posted on 02/12/2011 1:32:54 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: wagglebee

Hopefully, other states will follow ND’s example


26 posted on 02/12/2011 1:35:08 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: ClearCase_guy

“North Dakota is choosing not to be punitive toward her, and is trying to see her as a sort of victim as well.”

If that is the case, you can expect the next woman who murders her child that is age anywhere from one day old to 18 years old to cite this aspect of the law in her defense and therefore not be convicted.

All she would have to say is that she was “a poor, scared desperate woman who is trying to make the “smart choice””


27 posted on 02/12/2011 1:40:48 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: Joe 6-pack
It’s also going to be hard for the pro-death crowd to wail about “the return to back alley abortions” in the wake of Gosnell’s house of horrors.

Don't you just wish. Never underestimate the insanity of the liberal left.

28 posted on 02/12/2011 1:48:08 PM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: wagglebee
"The bill also exempts pregnant women seeking abortions from criminal prosecution."

what does that mean??? simply asking for an abortion is not an offense unless she goes thru with it????

29 posted on 02/12/2011 1:48:08 PM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: trumandogz
I think abortion is the most divisive political issue out there. It is the central point of all Democrat platforms, and it is the single biggest reason millions of people think Republicans are Nazis. We say they murder children, and they hate us for saying so.

Abortion is a big deal. Since 1973 (and before) it has been tearing this country apart.

I'd like to see progress toward making abortion totally illegal. I am 100% pro-life. I respectfully suggest that trying to put formerly pregnant women in jail is going to make this goal less attainable.

I say we keep our eye on the ball and focus on making the act of performing abortion illegal. Politics is the art of the possible. We want abortion to be illegal. Targeting the mother might be a poor strategy, and it may convince millions of voters that we Republicans really are monsters.

I say we keep our eye on the ball and focus on making the act of performing abortions illegal.

30 posted on 02/12/2011 2:00:42 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (BO + MB = BOMB -- The One will make sure they get one.)
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To: matthew fuller

Not exactly; there have been cases where pregnant women have been assaulted, lost their babies, and were then unable to prosecute for murder because it wasn’t a “child”. Libs hate these laws because they acknowledge that there is in fact “life”, but it may pass “constitutional muster” if it doesn’t infringe on “Our God-Given Right To Murder Children” /s.


31 posted on 02/12/2011 2:12:01 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Ann Archy

I read a few years back that one of the Dakotas doesn’t have a single abortion clinic/murder mill.


32 posted on 02/12/2011 2:18:42 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: ClearCase_guy
Neither side will change abortion laws.

The Dems and the GOP are using it as a political football to get you to send money and rile you up.

The (Federal) law will stay exactly as it is.

Until and unless the current system is overthrown. End the two parties and you can change it.

Both sides know that they can farm you suckers over the issue. They just have different fields full of potted plants to reap money from.

Pick a side! Any side!! It doesn't matter, because everyone pays.... them.

33 posted on 02/12/2011 2:40:21 PM PST by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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To: wagglebee
this could be good or bad.

One thing the Supremes refused to do in Roe v. Wade was to determine when life begins. Which left a loophole for any state wishing to make that determination...none have so far. ND comes closest.

If ND gets taken to the Supremes, the SCOTUS may have to rule when life begins.

Should get real interesting real soon.

34 posted on 02/12/2011 2:41:23 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I’m glad that the states are pursuing this, because it will make a difference, but ultimately, the Federal government must get involved if we really want to end abortion in the country.


35 posted on 02/12/2011 2:43:40 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I should have said, if we really want to end abortion in *this* country.


36 posted on 02/12/2011 2:44:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: EvasiveManuever
I believe you are correct. I came to that same conclusion back in the second Reagan administration, when I read an extraordinarily "snotty" news article (not an editorial-this was published as straight news)in my local paper, regarding a change in the pro life tactics. Back then (mid 1980s) multiple states would pass very strict anti abortion laws, which governors would then (usually) sign, knowing the USSC would shoot them down. Then when Reagan was reelected-suddenly those bills stopped COLD. It had been an easy way to get the "prolife vote", but when it looked like there was a chance Reagan could get a few more judges on the USSC...well, suddenly those state legislatures and governors didn't seem too interested in pro life bills any more. Passing them was now risky, and as prochoice people also got worried at what might happen if Reagan got a few judges...Well, those governors and state legislators got worried about losing THEIR votes. The career and would be career politicians wanted to "balance" the voters, passing pro life bills they knew would get shot down, to get the pro life vote without worrying the pro choice vote, who trusted the USSC to keep those bills from being enacted. Anyhow, that article was all about the cessation of strict prolife amendments to state constitutions just "suddenly and unaccountably" vanishing, very sarcastic and sneering but in an understated, underhand way. (I wish I'd cut that article out and kept it; I am curious as to whose name was on the byline. It's stuck with me all these years.

Of course prochoice politicians do the same thing : They use the fear of abortion being declared illegal to get votes and donations.

The abortion issue is by no means the only important issue which is nothing but a game to politicians and bureaucrats, no matter how impassioned are voters about it. :-(

37 posted on 02/12/2011 3:54:48 PM PST by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: ClearCase_guy

OK, I see that. It mighjt just make the bill easier to pass the senate.


38 posted on 02/12/2011 4:05:21 PM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: wagglebee; Last Dakotan

I don’t think it’ll hold up in the short term, but this could be the start of something. After all, even the American Revolution didn’t happen overnight. This bill and its sponsors deserve to be applauded and supported.


39 posted on 02/12/2011 4:53:58 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: wagglebee

Wunderbar. Terrific. At least some ND legislators will know that they are not the ones who have decreed open season on babies.

How about the rest of us??


40 posted on 02/12/2011 5:47:38 PM PST by guitarist
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To: kearnyirish2
I read a few years back that one of the Dakotas doesn’t have a single abortion clinic/murder mill.

Both North and South Dakota have one in their respective major city. They are serviced by "doctors" that fly in for 1 day a week.

41 posted on 02/12/2011 6:18:45 PM PST by Last Dakotan (Hunting - the ultimate in organic grocery shopping.)
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To: kaylar

The GOP controlled the Presidency and both houses of Congress.

IF Abortion was the be all and end all issue, and by gosh, they really, really meant it ! .... they could have REMOVED Supreme Court/Federal jurisdiction from this issue by Congressional Act.

Then there’s no one to stop state laws against abortion.

But they did not do this. What does this tell you?


42 posted on 02/13/2011 2:52:38 AM PST by EvasiveManuever (Shakespeare got it wrong. Not the lawyers... journalists.)
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43 posted on 02/13/2011 10:53:13 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Last Dakotan

Good for those people in the Dakotas; they seem to have little use for the “doctors”. Here in NJ they could probably run some of them 24 hours a day.


44 posted on 02/13/2011 3:59:57 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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