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Ron Paul Continues CPAC Straw Poll Dominance (Palin loses to nearly everybody)
American Spectator ^ | 2.12.11 @ 5:40PM | By Philip Klein

Posted on 02/12/2011 4:33:54 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

Ron Paul has pulled off a reapeat, winning the CPAC presidential straw poll once again with 30 percent of the vote.

Mitt Romney finished second with 23 percent ... Newt Gingrich at 5 percent; Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachmann and Mitch Daniels at 4 percent, Sarah Palin at 3 percent, and everybody else at 2 percent or less.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cpac; cpackers; freepressforpalin; fudgepac; losertarian; palin; paul; paulestinians; stackedpoll
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Wow.

Yeah, it's easy to dismiss CPAC as a libertarian lovefest or RINO ranch, but Palin finished behind even Bachmann.

That's not good when you consider how similar their stands on issues are and how popular both are with tea partiers.

It makes one wonder if the activists there think Sarah's become unelectable.

1 posted on 02/12/2011 4:33:58 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Nice try.

Do some research on CPAC and Palin.


2 posted on 02/12/2011 4:36:27 PM PST by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Please! Bachmann finish only one point ahead of Sarah IIRC but both finished with 5-6% of the vote! It’s a freaking bus in your supporters straw poll!!! It means nothing


3 posted on 02/12/2011 4:38:26 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Behind Liberal Lines


Not a surprise. The homos HATE Sarah.
4 posted on 02/12/2011 4:39:01 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Oh please. There are very few traditional conservatives left at CPAC.


5 posted on 02/12/2011 4:39:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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Sarah Palin Finishes a Distant 9th Place in CPAC Straw Poll

Sarah Palin has added veteran Republican strategist Michael Glassner to serve as COS for her political action committee, Sarah PAC. Glassner, an attorney and longtime adviser to former Kansas senator and presidential candidate Bob Dole, has signed on to steer the former Alaska governor's political operation as she considers a possible 2012 presidential bid. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Glassner managed her vice presidential operations.

ITEM Michael Glassner's work for Dole AND McCain does not denote a man of principle.

ITEM Michael Glassner served as counselor to NY/NJ Port Authority Chairman Lewis M. Eisenberg.

ITEM Eisenberg was one of the first to introduce pro-abortion policies into the Repub Party---was he a stalking horse for the dreaded neocons?

ITEM For many years, Mr. Eisenberg was a partner of Goldman Sachs & Co

ITEM The IRS has targeted govt authorities as the locus classicus for govt fraud. The NY/NJ/PA was fingered as one of THE most corrupt govt agencies.

ITEM Eisenberg served on New York Gov George Pataki's transition team and was a key advisor to New Jersey Gov Christine Whitman (both of them not known as staunch conservatives).

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REFERENCE After years w/ GS, in 1990, Eisenberg founded Granite Capital International Group, an investment management company headquartered in NYC. Mr. Eisenberg also served from 1995-2001 as Chairman of the Board of Commissioners of the NY/NJ Port Authority. The Port Authority is the owner of the World Trade Center, and Mr. Eisenberg led the agency through the first three months of recovery and clean-up after the 911 terrorist attacks. He was recently named a member of New York's Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Authority, which will spearhead the rebuilding of Ground Zero.

Eisenberg's community and charitable activities include leadership in health and healthcare related institutions. He is on the Planning Board of UJA/United Jewish Federation.

Mr. Eisenberg was once elected Finance Chairman of the RNC. He raised millions of dollars for the Republican Party and Republican candidates.

Eisenberg’s support for Republicans appears to be limited..... He also writes checks to liberal Democrats like Walter Mondale, Dick Gephardt, Tim Wirth, Chris Dodd, Bruce Babbitt, Joe Biden, and others.

6 posted on 02/12/2011 4:40:02 PM PST by Liz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

She was ask I understand to be the keynote speaker. She declined...

Is it understandable that she wasn’t voted for? Means nothing. The people who attended had a lot invested in this. She was a no-show, Of course they didn’t vote for her. That doesn’t necessary mean they reject her or her ideas.


7 posted on 02/12/2011 4:40:16 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
When we allow the Media to determine our candidates, the Media's choices will prevail.

Paul has some support on fiscal issues from the Tea Party, yet when it comes to Foreign Policy, the guy sounds like a Left Wing loon.

FYI, Here's what I believe is the reason Gov. Palin won't appear at CPAC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP3FvTGPfao

8 posted on 02/12/2011 4:40:31 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: jimbo123

lol.

That is too true


9 posted on 02/12/2011 4:40:44 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Palin did not attend CPAC. Along with her, I believe most of us “Palinistas” stayed away. No point in joining a GOProud gropefest.


10 posted on 02/12/2011 4:42:05 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Ron Paulites: The other Trojan horse of the Conservative Movement. You don’t call him Ron Paul Pot for nothing.


11 posted on 02/12/2011 4:42:28 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

You are not supposed to post these kind of threads without pissant’s permission, okey?


12 posted on 02/12/2011 4:42:57 PM PST by max americana
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

But only Sarah will be President of the United States of America....


13 posted on 02/12/2011 4:43:06 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It will be one cold day in hell before I vote for Ron Paul.


14 posted on 02/12/2011 4:43:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Why can't the Mexican government provide "a better life" for the illegal aliens? It's their job!)
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To: GeronL; jimbo123

But then why did she lose to Bachmann? Gays wouldn’t vote for her either.


15 posted on 02/12/2011 4:43:35 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: GeronL; jimbo123

But then why did she lose to Bachmann? Gays wouldn’t vote for her either.


16 posted on 02/12/2011 4:43:35 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Liz

She didn’t hire Eisenberg. It also seems Glassner won’t be in any policy-making position, just organizational.


17 posted on 02/12/2011 4:43:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It makes one wonder if the activists there think Sarah's become unelectable.

If these activists think Ron Paul is electable; then who cares 'what' they think?

18 posted on 02/12/2011 4:44:44 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: Liz

Thanks for the imfo, Liz. I have been hearing more and more about this.


19 posted on 02/12/2011 4:45:48 PM PST by dforest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Are you not smart enough to figure out that any group who thinks Ron Paul will win anything but his congressional seat will certainly not vote for Palin.

It tells you more about this inside the beltway group than it does about the other candidates chances, including Palin.


20 posted on 02/12/2011 4:45:48 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

She didn’t lose to Bachmann, who was there and campaigned with gifts of tee shirts and some say beer. Because Bachmann did not win.


21 posted on 02/12/2011 4:46:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I WILL NOT vote for him.


22 posted on 02/12/2011 4:47:14 PM PST by MamaB
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To: GeronL

People are known for who they associate themselves with. Far more important than words.


23 posted on 02/12/2011 4:47:52 PM PST by dforest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Much ado about nothing.


24 posted on 02/12/2011 4:48:22 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (The Left is the Antichrist.)
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To: cricket
If these activists think Ron Paul is electable; then who cares 'what' they think?

CPACers live on another planet. I'm no fan of Huck. But if anyone thinks in a primary race that Paul ends up with 30% of vote and Palin and Huck (who got 2%) COMBINE for 5%, they are delusional.

CPAC was overrun with the Paulnuts and the Gay Mafia.
25 posted on 02/12/2011 4:49:43 PM PST by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: indylindy

You are very welcome. Palin’s judgment is at stake here.

She has to show what side she is on before conservatives commit to her.


26 posted on 02/12/2011 4:49:53 PM PST by Liz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Bachmann was there, Palin wasn’t. That could explain why Bachmann got 4% and Palin only 3%.

CPAC is where Reagan spoke over 10 times.

The story is fairly simple. Romney and Paul have organizations, nobody else does.

Sometimes it’s important to have an organization. Perhaps voters learn who you are by magic, and votes magically appear on election day. Sometimes organizations work hard to drag every single vote to the polls.


27 posted on 02/12/2011 4:50:02 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’m not concerned....Ron Paul is unelectable.


28 posted on 02/12/2011 4:50:12 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Well, we know how well their straw poll worked last time, don’t we?!


29 posted on 02/12/2011 4:53:02 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Germans in 1932 thought they were voting for change too.)
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To: nhwingut

It appears the homos had a gay old time at CPAC...

http://www.goproud.org/

http://www.logcabin.org/


30 posted on 02/12/2011 4:53:33 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Liz

Unfortunatley Liz, many don’t seem to care. Denial is much more comfortable.


31 posted on 02/12/2011 4:53:49 PM PST by dforest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

If Ron “I don’t see homosexuality as a sin/I voted to repeal DADT/abortion is a states rights issue” Paul won a CPAC straw poll, the fag/Libertarian (no difference) influence must be quite heavy.


32 posted on 02/12/2011 4:54:30 PM PST by aSeattleConservative ("...the American Christian ... would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!" G. Washington)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Please, conservatives, take some time to read the speeches and writings of Washington, the Adamses, Jefferson, Madison, and all the other leaders of the First American Revolution. Read your Declaration of Independence and Federalist Papers.

Think about where our nation stands today--betrayed by its leaders, its principles of liberty undermined and denied both at home and abroad. The liberty of future generations, perhaps, relying on the decision you make about your choice of a candidate to protect the Constitution and to roll back decades of erosion of her principles.

Then pray that Divine Providence once again shows you a leader of uncompromising character, deep and abiding understanding of the ideas of liberty, as well as an understanding of the counterfeit ideas which do battle against it--whether those ideas come from ages-old religious roots or from Marx, Lenin and Mao. Couple those understandings of America's founding principles with an ability to so articulate those ideas that none can stand against that leader without looking foolish and/or vain. Merely calling to mind Ronald Reagan's defense of America's founding ideas is not sufficient, although it may be admirable. The candidate's understanding must be authentic because of personal study and assimilation.

Then, and only then, can we hope to select a candidate who can win the hearts and minds of the citizenry and lead the Republic back to its foundations in liberty.

That candidate, when the candidate immerges, will stand head and shoulders above the current field, as constituted today. It will not be by reason of popularity, as popularity is measured in the media. Nor will it be by fame or fortune. It will be because, as in 1776 and 1787, that person can so articulate the essential ideas of liberty that even those who have never heard them, will recognize that their grandchildren's future depends on the leadership of that person.

A reading of the writings of the first 50 years of American history following 1787 will reveal that such was the feeling of citizens who looked to Washington for leadership in that time of great crisis for the nation.

33 posted on 02/12/2011 4:54:30 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I think Sarah is more influential being an advocate rather than a candidate (but, if she is the nominee, I will support her to the max!).


34 posted on 02/12/2011 4:56:30 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: nhwingut

SarahPAC was a sponsor. Is that what you were referring to?

Or a realization that it could possibly be better to cancel and avoid having to send out a facebook saying “come to DC”.

Everyone has talked up Palin as the one since Aug 08. But these serious, real straw polls come along, and Palin does not do well. Often she doesn’t compete. She’s never had anything resembling a victory at any of these things.

But everyone failed really, except Ron Paul and Mitt Romney, who is doing almost as well as he did 2 years ago (when he won), 3 years ago (when he won) and 4 years ago (when he won). Every single candidate except Ron Paul is either doing badly (almost everybody) or doing worse than 2,3,4 years ago (Romney).


35 posted on 02/12/2011 4:57:36 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: GeronL; Liz

Didn’t you hear? Sarah is the new “seven degrees of Kevin Bacon”

Somehow the libertarians and PDSers always try to tie Palin to NEOCONS and the New World Order, it’s ridiculous that Michael who once work as a counsel to a chairman of the NY port authority must believes and supports whatever this old guy did in his spare time. I’ve worked with many big time libs as my boss in my field and I’m just there to do my job not cater to their beliefs system


36 posted on 02/12/2011 4:59:42 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: aSeattleConservative

Ron Paul is against Roe v Wade.

Giuliani - and many other Republicans - are pro Roe v Wade. Giuliani was calling Ron Paul crazy.


37 posted on 02/12/2011 4:59:48 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It is not about the "Dominance" (strange word choice, right?)
it is about WHO comprises CPAC.
Get with the program, Behind Liberal Lines.
CPAC [ = Obama Republicans] supports the Islamic invasion, CAIR, Mitt Romney and antiSemitism.


CPAC/ACU/CAIR is run by Al Cardenas/David Keene
involved in Palin-bashing and Romney-care polishing.

""Palin-bashing CPAC/ACU Chair donated $2,000 to Arlen Specter, endorsed Romney""

""Exclusive: Conservative group offers support for $2M"

""Palin rebuffs CPAC, Keene""

"Washington Insider David Keene Disses Governor Palin, Claims to Speak for Grassroots
"Keene's ACU also puts on the annual CPAC conference in Washington.

.In the last three years CPAC has devolved into nothing more than
an annual love fest for the most established of establishment
Republicans, Mitt Romney. It should come as no surprise that David
Keene supported Mitt Romney in 2008. "


"David Keene Endorses Romney"


"ACU President David Keene Endorses Romney
Long courted by Romney, Keene agreed to formalize his endorsement of
the former governor during a face to face meeting in Florida on
Tuesday, according to knowledgeable sources."


"David A. Keene (born May 20, 1945) is the current chairman of the American
Conservative Union, a position which he has held since 1984. Additionally, he is the
managing associate at the Carmen Group Lobbying, a lobbying firm based in
Washington, D.C. In December 2007, Keene endorsed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. "


"(at CPAC 2010, the) message there was that "real conservatives" don't support the war
on terror because it is a creation of the "Israeli lobby" - which coalesces with the left-
wing's new anti-Semitism against neoconservatives. Karen Kwiatkowski is a darling of
both the leftist Huffington Post and the anti-Semitic paleocon site Antiwar.com.


…is a board member of the ACU, and from the looks of CPAC's
covered topics and omission of discussion of jihad, it looks as if he exerts enormous
influence over David Keene, the ACU's nominal leader. Norquist and his ally Suhail
Khan seem to be in charge at CPAC - no CPAC event goes on that doesn't reflect their perspective. ….
Grover Norquist's troubling ties to Islamic supremacists and jihadists have been known
for years. He and his Palestinian wife, Samah Alrayyes, who was director of
communications for his Islamic Free Market Institute until they married in 2005, are very
active in "Muslim outreach." …..
It was Norquist who ushered these silver-tongued jihadists into the Oval Office after the
worst attack ever on American soil. ….
Grover Norquist was on the jihad payroll before and after the carnage and death of
September 11….
Norquist also introduced Nihad Awad, cofounder and executive director of the Council
on American-Islamic Relations, to President Bush. ….
It is no surprise that CPAC 2010, like CPAC 2009, had nothing addressing the war we
are actually engaged in. This is due to the influence of Norquist, Keene, and Suhail Khan,
a CPAC board member. According to Gaffney, Khan "has repeatedly been a featured
speaker at MSA, ISNA and CAIR events" - that is, Muslim Students Association, Islamic
Society of North America, and Council on American-Islamic Relations, three groups
linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, the international Islamic organization dedicated to
establishing the rule of Islamic law and the subjugation of infidels worldwide."



CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty - FR

CPAC's Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty

38 posted on 02/12/2011 5:00:30 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: GeronL; indylindy; Condor51; calcowgirl
GERONL POSTED: Glassner won’t be in any policy-making position, just organizational.

ROTFL. That IS funny.

Come on, stop with the Neo party line.

Glassner HAD to have supported Eisenberg's full-frontal liberal agenda...... and is gaining a foothold by leeching onto Palin.

Glassner only thinks he's riding below the radar. That ain't gonna happen.

39 posted on 02/12/2011 5:01:25 PM PST by Liz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
CPAC's Straw Poll and the eventual GOP nominee aren't necessary inline with each other........ Take a look at the last few years of Straw polls here.

CPAC Straw Polls


40 posted on 02/12/2011 5:01:29 PM PST by deport
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
This is part of an interview with Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugged. It is about last year's C-PAC

Nothing was said about the Islamic doctrine that shows that jihadists would be waging war against the U.S. even if we did end all actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. The panel agreed with Obama, that Muslims are angry with us because of our actions, and will stop being angry with us if we change our foreign policy. This view is naïve and reflects ignorance of Islamic doctrine. And consider this: if Ron Paul were as anti-Islam as he is anti-Israel, he would not have been in CPAC, and his perspective would not have been represented. Instead of coming together on our basic core values and circling the wagons on the fundamentals — national security, small government, low taxes, and the freedom of speech — the CPAC leadership had a circus of the fringe.

41 posted on 02/12/2011 5:02:12 PM PST by Eva
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
but Palin finished behind even Bachmann. That's not good when you consider how similar their stands on issues are and how popular both are with tea partiers. It makes one wonder if the activists there think Sarah's become unelectable.

You sound awfully CONCERNED. I'm not worried about any polls. The only poll that matters when we get to vote.

42 posted on 02/12/2011 5:03:18 PM PST by McGruff (If you tell a lie enough times some people will come to believe it.)
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To: indylindy

Do anyone truly believe those numbers? If they really do, then why the obsession with Palin? Thats like picking on the guy who’s constantly last in class, “haha, you can never be class captain” What’s the point?

It is more likely that media and others are trying to make themselves feel better by reinforcing a message they know to be false


43 posted on 02/12/2011 5:04:21 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: nhwingut

I was in NV during the primary in 08 and I believe Paul took 2nd place there, forget exactly what percent.


44 posted on 02/12/2011 5:04:38 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Knots in your fingers from wringing your hands?...Not to worry...Sarah.s playing them like a violin


45 posted on 02/12/2011 5:05:01 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: babygene

SarahPAC was a sponsor.


46 posted on 02/12/2011 5:06:09 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Liz

Party line? I don’t belong to a party.

Leeching onto Palin? He was hired by McCain to help run the Palin VP’s ground campaign. That seems to be his bailiwick.


47 posted on 02/12/2011 5:07:32 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

YAF boots Ron Paul off the advisory board today!!

Good news.


48 posted on 02/12/2011 5:08:12 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Bookmark


49 posted on 02/12/2011 5:09:31 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Liz

[She has to show what side she is on before conservatives commit to her.]

She showed independence from the establishment toadies at CPAC, an ability to buck the tide. What is wrong with that? Don’t write about her if she is so washed up and can’t win.


50 posted on 02/12/2011 5:09:38 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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