Skip to comments.Ron Paul Continues CPAC Straw Poll Dominance (Palin loses to nearly everybody)
Posted on 02/12/2011 4:33:54 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
Ron Paul has pulled off a reapeat, winning the CPAC presidential straw poll once again with 30 percent of the vote.
Mitt Romney finished second with 23 percent ... Newt Gingrich at 5 percent; Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachmann and Mitch Daniels at 4 percent, Sarah Palin at 3 percent, and everybody else at 2 percent or less.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
Yeah, it's easy to dismiss CPAC as a libertarian lovefest or RINO ranch, but Palin finished behind even Bachmann.
That's not good when you consider how similar their stands on issues are and how popular both are with tea partiers.
It makes one wonder if the activists there think Sarah's become unelectable.
Do some research on CPAC and Palin.
Please! Bachmann finish only one point ahead of Sarah IIRC but both finished with 5-6% of the vote! It’s a freaking bus in your supporters straw poll!!! It means nothing
Oh please. There are very few traditional conservatives left at CPAC.
Sarah Palin has added veteran Republican strategist Michael Glassner to serve as COS for her political action committee, Sarah PAC. Glassner, an attorney and longtime adviser to former Kansas senator and presidential candidate Bob Dole, has signed on to steer the former Alaska governor's political operation as she considers a possible 2012 presidential bid. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Glassner managed her vice presidential operations.
ITEM Michael Glassner's work for Dole AND McCain does not denote a man of principle.
ITEM Michael Glassner served as counselor to NY/NJ Port Authority Chairman Lewis M. Eisenberg.
ITEM Eisenberg was one of the first to introduce pro-abortion policies into the Repub Party---was he a stalking horse for the dreaded neocons?
ITEM For many years, Mr. Eisenberg was a partner of Goldman Sachs & Co
ITEM The IRS has targeted govt authorities as the locus classicus for govt fraud. The NY/NJ/PA was fingered as one of THE most corrupt govt agencies.
ITEM Eisenberg served on New York Gov George Pataki's transition team and was a key advisor to New Jersey Gov Christine Whitman (both of them not known as staunch conservatives).
REFERENCE After years w/ GS, in 1990, Eisenberg founded Granite Capital International Group, an investment management company headquartered in NYC. Mr. Eisenberg also served from 1995-2001 as Chairman of the Board of Commissioners of the NY/NJ Port Authority. The Port Authority is the owner of the World Trade Center, and Mr. Eisenberg led the agency through the first three months of recovery and clean-up after the 911 terrorist attacks. He was recently named a member of New York's Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Authority, which will spearhead the rebuilding of Ground Zero.
Eisenberg's community and charitable activities include leadership in health and healthcare related institutions. He is on the Planning Board of UJA/United Jewish Federation.
Mr. Eisenberg was once elected Finance Chairman of the RNC. He raised millions of dollars for the Republican Party and Republican candidates.
Eisenbergs support for Republicans appears to be limited..... He also writes checks to liberal Democrats like Walter Mondale, Dick Gephardt, Tim Wirth, Chris Dodd, Bruce Babbitt, Joe Biden, and others.
She was ask I understand to be the keynote speaker. She declined...
Is it understandable that she wasn’t voted for? Means nothing. The people who attended had a lot invested in this. She was a no-show, Of course they didn’t vote for her. That doesn’t necessary mean they reject her or her ideas.
Paul has some support on fiscal issues from the Tea Party, yet when it comes to Foreign Policy, the guy sounds like a Left Wing loon.
FYI, Here's what I believe is the reason Gov. Palin won't appear at CPAC.
That is too true
Palin did not attend CPAC. Along with her, I believe most of us “Palinistas” stayed away. No point in joining a GOProud gropefest.
The Ron Paulites: The other Trojan horse of the Conservative Movement. You don’t call him Ron Paul Pot for nothing.
You are not supposed to post these kind of threads without pissant’s permission, okey?
But only Sarah will be President of the United States of America....
It will be one cold day in hell before I vote for Ron Paul.
But then why did she lose to Bachmann? Gays wouldn’t vote for her either.
But then why did she lose to Bachmann? Gays wouldn’t vote for her either.
She didn’t hire Eisenberg. It also seems Glassner won’t be in any policy-making position, just organizational.
If these activists think Ron Paul is electable; then who cares 'what' they think?
Thanks for the imfo, Liz. I have been hearing more and more about this.
Are you not smart enough to figure out that any group who thinks Ron Paul will win anything but his congressional seat will certainly not vote for Palin.
It tells you more about this inside the beltway group than it does about the other candidates chances, including Palin.
She didn’t lose to Bachmann, who was there and campaigned with gifts of tee shirts and some say beer. Because Bachmann did not win.
I WILL NOT vote for him.
People are known for who they associate themselves with. Far more important than words.
Much ado about nothing.
You are very welcome. Palin’s judgment is at stake here.
She has to show what side she is on before conservatives commit to her.
Bachmann was there, Palin wasn’t. That could explain why Bachmann got 4% and Palin only 3%.
CPAC is where Reagan spoke over 10 times.
The story is fairly simple. Romney and Paul have organizations, nobody else does.
Sometimes it’s important to have an organization. Perhaps voters learn who you are by magic, and votes magically appear on election day. Sometimes organizations work hard to drag every single vote to the polls.
I’m not concerned....Ron Paul is unelectable.
Well, we know how well their straw poll worked last time, don’t we?!
Unfortunatley Liz, many don’t seem to care. Denial is much more comfortable.
If Ron “I don’t see homosexuality as a sin/I voted to repeal DADT/abortion is a states rights issue” Paul won a CPAC straw poll, the fag/Libertarian (no difference) influence must be quite heavy.
Think about where our nation stands today--betrayed by its leaders, its principles of liberty undermined and denied both at home and abroad. The liberty of future generations, perhaps, relying on the decision you make about your choice of a candidate to protect the Constitution and to roll back decades of erosion of her principles.
Then pray that Divine Providence once again shows you a leader of uncompromising character, deep and abiding understanding of the ideas of liberty, as well as an understanding of the counterfeit ideas which do battle against it--whether those ideas come from ages-old religious roots or from Marx, Lenin and Mao. Couple those understandings of America's founding principles with an ability to so articulate those ideas that none can stand against that leader without looking foolish and/or vain. Merely calling to mind Ronald Reagan's defense of America's founding ideas is not sufficient, although it may be admirable. The candidate's understanding must be authentic because of personal study and assimilation.
Then, and only then, can we hope to select a candidate who can win the hearts and minds of the citizenry and lead the Republic back to its foundations in liberty.
That candidate, when the candidate immerges, will stand head and shoulders above the current field, as constituted today. It will not be by reason of popularity, as popularity is measured in the media. Nor will it be by fame or fortune. It will be because, as in 1776 and 1787, that person can so articulate the essential ideas of liberty that even those who have never heard them, will recognize that their grandchildren's future depends on the leadership of that person.
A reading of the writings of the first 50 years of American history following 1787 will reveal that such was the feeling of citizens who looked to Washington for leadership in that time of great crisis for the nation.
I think Sarah is more influential being an advocate rather than a candidate (but, if she is the nominee, I will support her to the max!).
SarahPAC was a sponsor. Is that what you were referring to?
Or a realization that it could possibly be better to cancel and avoid having to send out a facebook saying “come to DC”.
Everyone has talked up Palin as the one since Aug 08. But these serious, real straw polls come along, and Palin does not do well. Often she doesn’t compete. She’s never had anything resembling a victory at any of these things.
But everyone failed really, except Ron Paul and Mitt Romney, who is doing almost as well as he did 2 years ago (when he won), 3 years ago (when he won) and 4 years ago (when he won). Every single candidate except Ron Paul is either doing badly (almost everybody) or doing worse than 2,3,4 years ago (Romney).
Didn’t you hear? Sarah is the new “seven degrees of Kevin Bacon”
Somehow the libertarians and PDSers always try to tie Palin to NEOCONS and the New World Order, it’s ridiculous that Michael who once work as a counsel to a chairman of the NY port authority must believes and supports whatever this old guy did in his spare time. I’ve worked with many big time libs as my boss in my field and I’m just there to do my job not cater to their beliefs system
Ron Paul is against Roe v Wade.
Giuliani - and many other Republicans - are pro Roe v Wade. Giuliani was calling Ron Paul crazy.
CPAC/ACU/CAIR is run by Al Cardenas/David Keene
involved in Palin-bashing and Romney-care polishing.
"Washington Insider David Keene Disses Governor Palin, Claims to Speak for Grassroots
"Keene's ACU also puts on the annual CPAC conference in Washington.
.In the last three years CPAC has devolved into nothing more than
an annual love fest for the most established of establishment
Republicans, Mitt Romney. It should come as no surprise that David
Keene supported Mitt Romney in 2008. "
"ACU President David Keene Endorses Romney
Long courted by Romney, Keene agreed to formalize his endorsement of
the former governor during a face to face meeting in Florida on
Tuesday, according to knowledgeable sources."
"David A. Keene (born May 20, 1945) is the current chairman of the American
Conservative Union, a position which he has held since 1984. Additionally, he is the
managing associate at the Carmen Group Lobbying, a lobbying firm based in
Washington, D.C. In December 2007, Keene endorsed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. "
"(at CPAC 2010, the) message there was that "real conservatives" don't support the war
on terror because it is a creation of the "Israeli lobby" - which coalesces with the left-
wing's new anti-Semitism against neoconservatives. Karen Kwiatkowski is a darling of
both the leftist Huffington Post and the anti-Semitic paleocon site Antiwar.com.
is a board member of the ACU, and from the looks of CPAC's
covered topics and omission of discussion of jihad, it looks as if he exerts enormous
influence over David Keene, the ACU's nominal leader. Norquist and his ally Suhail
Khan seem to be in charge at CPAC - no CPAC event goes on that doesn't reflect their perspective. .
Grover Norquist's troubling ties to Islamic supremacists and jihadists have been known
for years. He and his Palestinian wife, Samah Alrayyes, who was director of
communications for his Islamic Free Market Institute until they married in 2005, are very
active in "Muslim outreach." ..
It was Norquist who ushered these silver-tongued jihadists into the Oval Office after the
worst attack ever on American soil. .
Grover Norquist was on the jihad payroll before and after the carnage and death of
September 11 .
Norquist also introduced Nihad Awad, cofounder and executive director of the Council
on American-Islamic Relations, to President Bush. .
It is no surprise that CPAC 2010, like CPAC 2009, had nothing addressing the war we
are actually engaged in. This is due to the influence of Norquist, Keene, and Suhail Khan,
a CPAC board member. According to Gaffney, Khan "has repeatedly been a featured
speaker at MSA, ISNA and CAIR events" - that is, Muslim Students Association, Islamic
Society of North America, and Council on American-Islamic Relations, three groups
linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, the international Islamic organization dedicated to
establishing the rule of Islamic law and the subjugation of infidels worldwide."
ROTFL. That IS funny.
Come on, stop with the Neo party line.
Glassner HAD to have supported Eisenberg's full-frontal liberal agenda...... and is gaining a foothold by leeching onto Palin.
Glassner only thinks he's riding below the radar. That ain't gonna happen.
Nothing was said about the Islamic doctrine that shows that jihadists would be waging war against the U.S. even if we did end all actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. The panel agreed with Obama, that Muslims are angry with us because of our actions, and will stop being angry with us if we change our foreign policy. This view is naïve and reflects ignorance of Islamic doctrine. And consider this: if Ron Paul were as anti-Islam as he is anti-Israel, he would not have been in CPAC, and his perspective would not have been represented. Instead of coming together on our basic core values and circling the wagons on the fundamentals national security, small government, low taxes, and the freedom of speech the CPAC leadership had a circus of the fringe.
You sound awfully CONCERNED. I'm not worried about any polls. The only poll that matters when we get to vote.
Do anyone truly believe those numbers? If they really do, then why the obsession with Palin? Thats like picking on the guy who’s constantly last in class, “haha, you can never be class captain” What’s the point?
It is more likely that media and others are trying to make themselves feel better by reinforcing a message they know to be false
I was in NV during the primary in 08 and I believe Paul took 2nd place there, forget exactly what percent.
Knots in your fingers from wringing your hands?...Not to worry...Sarah.s playing them like a violin
SarahPAC was a sponsor.
Party line? I don’t belong to a party.
Leeching onto Palin? He was hired by McCain to help run the Palin VP’s ground campaign. That seems to be his bailiwick.
YAF boots Ron Paul off the advisory board today!!
[She has to show what side she is on before conservatives commit to her.]
She showed independence from the establishment toadies at CPAC, an ability to buck the tide. What is wrong with that? Don’t write about her if she is so washed up and can’t win.