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In The Streets Of Cairo, Proof Bush Was Right
The Washington Post ^ | Jan 30, 2011 | Elliott Abrams

Posted on 02/12/2011 5:54:04 PM PST by Wpin

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To: Wpin

You are making some very good points. I am taking your posts and reflecting on them. thanks for responding.


61 posted on 02/13/2011 5:11:05 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

“You are making some very good points. I am taking your posts and reflecting on them. thanks for responding.”

Thank you, I appreciate it :)


62 posted on 02/13/2011 5:26:01 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Nothing to worry about...They are still playing Golf in Dubai.


63 posted on 02/13/2011 6:14:33 AM PST by Napoleon Solo
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To: Pelham
LOL! Is Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court? You fellas really need to get over your angry fixation on this woman.

President Bush has been given awards for his consistent, strongly Constitutionalist federal judges and SC Justices - loads of them - by people who are a lot more well informed than you are, dear Pelham. Facts are stubborn things

Stop being blinded by grudges and look at what really happened. I know that's hard for you to do since you're driven by feelings and not reality, but give it a try. :)

(You probably still believe that I stalk people on FR. LOL!)

64 posted on 02/13/2011 6:16:30 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Wpin; EBH
EBH must have serious problems with the Founding Fathers, Wpin.

They too believed that our freedom was given by God. President Bush was echoing the Declaration of Independence in his view that freedom is a gift.

65 posted on 02/13/2011 6:19:50 AM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Engineer_Soldier
Have you been there? I have.

Yes. And I'm still here.

Iraq will go down as one of the worst foreign policy mistakes in American history.

I disagree.

66 posted on 02/13/2011 6:24:28 AM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Elsie

You’re right about that. The West no longer has any idea what values are required to make our form of government and liberty a reality.


67 posted on 02/13/2011 7:00:14 AM PST by bereanway
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To: Wpin

You can’t allay the fears of those blinded by bigotry


68 posted on 02/13/2011 7:08:33 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Yet_Again

Only someone so naive as to call Islam a religion of peace could believe otherwise.”

Exactly Our entire premise and outlook on the Muslim Middle East is a fantasy and history has proven it as such. Ultimately, it will end very badly.


69 posted on 02/13/2011 7:08:56 AM PST by bereanway
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To: Allegra

Where in Iraq are you? I was in Kirkuk and then in Mosul. Iraq was a huge, HUGE waste of money and American lives.


70 posted on 02/13/2011 10:59:02 AM PST by Engineer_Soldier ("Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: bereanway
The West no longer has any idea what values are required to make our form of government and liberty a reality.

TRUTH # 4 - Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious People

 

 

http://www.coralridge.org/equip/10TruthsSeries/10%20Truths%20About%20Americas%20Christian%20Heritage/truth-4.aspx

71 posted on 02/13/2011 12:13:12 PM PST by Elsie
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To: ohioWfan

“LOL! Is Harriet Miers on the Supreme Court?”

No, OWF, thank God enough people melted the phone lines to Congress to keep Dubya from getting his way.

“Facts are stubborn things”

True, and it’s a fact that Dubya tried to put Miers on the court. Renounce your world of fantasy, OAF, take down that shrine to Dubya in your basement.


72 posted on 02/13/2011 2:41:04 PM PST by Pelham (Off With Their Heads- a Religion of Peace thought for today)
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To: org.whodat
Got to agree with you. There is scant evidence this rebellion has anything to do with "democratic self government" or "freedom." We'll see in a few months or a year or two.
73 posted on 02/13/2011 4:25:27 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cicero
I don’t think most people understand how much we owe to Christianity for freedom in the West, and in this country.

Excatly right. The Judeo-Christian principle of the sanctity of the individual is the cornerstone of Western civilization and the freedom it can provide. This is an alien and unwelcome set of circumstances in the dark backwaters of islam.

74 posted on 02/13/2011 4:30:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: upsdriver
if people of the Middle East who desire freedom emulate Iraq and not Iran

Emulate Iraq? You mean, wait for the US Army to liberate them? Iraq had freedom handed to it courtesy of Uncle Sam. Whether they want it enough to keep it is still up for grabs.

75 posted on 02/13/2011 4:40:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Pelham
The founders didn’t have to invent a governing system from scratch, they simply built on the burgesses and town councils that already existed.

Really. What do you call the Federal Convention of 1787?

76 posted on 02/13/2011 4:44:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ohioWfan

The budgets for every program favored by the Left increased faster under Bush (and a GOP Congress) than it did under Clinton. Not exactly a conservative champion. Then there was the moronic idea that unConstitutional bills should pass Congress, and be signed by Bush, with the expectation that SCOTUS will declare them null. (Great leadership there, eh?) Then there was the 30-million illegal immigrant issue left to fester. The list of Bush’s conservative failures is not short.


77 posted on 02/13/2011 5:02:01 PM PST by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: Wpin
Egypt is not going to become a democracy.

A representive democracy needs a middle class, which they don't have.

These people are rioting not for freedom, but for more handouts.

78 posted on 02/13/2011 6:38:26 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: ohioWfan
Bush had a few good years, but his last years were terrible.

He bailed out the banks, pushed an open border policy, and seemed totally unconcerned about losing control of Congress.

He is totally naive about Islam, calling it a 'religion of peace' and didn't fight the WOT to destroy terrorism, but began to nation build, trying to establish a 'new world order' like his dad.

79 posted on 02/13/2011 6:48:23 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Really. What do you call the Federal Convention of 1787?”

Yes, really.

The Philadelphia Convention of 1787 was the third in a series of meetings convened to iron out trade and commerce conflicts that had arisen between the states. The Mount Vernon Conference of 1785 and the Annapolis Convention of 1786 preceded the Philadelphia Convention that drew up the Constitution.

Considering that the United States government had already been operating for six years under the Articles of Confederation, which themselves were drawn up in 1777, I don’t call the Philadelphia Convention “inventing a government from scratch”. It was, as the Preamble itself states it, a move to create a “more perfect Union”, not a move it invent one from scratch.

Now evidently you may have been operating under the illusion that the American government was created from scratch in 1787, but I ascribe that to your public school education rather than any native lack of ability. So hit the books, Buzzard, and the mysteries of American history will be revealed to you.


80 posted on 02/13/2011 8:23:42 PM PST by Pelham (Off With Their Heads- a Religion of Peace thought for today)
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