Posted on 02/12/2011 8:03:58 PM PST by Benchim
Texas Rep. Ron Paul has won the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) 2012 presidential preference straw poll of 3,742 activists, the chairman of the huge annual gathering of conservative activists announced on Saturday.
The poll, sponsored this year for the first time by The Washington Times, is seen as one of the earliest tests of grassroots popularity among the party’s dominant conservative wing, and Mr. Paul, who ran unsuccessfully for the nomination in 2008, has traditionally done well in the CPAC voting.
The Republican lawmaker, long a favorite of the party’s libertarian wing, took 30 percent of the votes cast, followed by Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 23 percent. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who has said he will not be a candidate in 2012, and New Mexico former Gov. Gary Johnson tied for third, with 6 percent of the vote.
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56% rating by National Right to Life Commitee.
They keep up with WHAT YOU DO vs WHAT YOUR PRESS RELEASES SAY.
Don’t you think we could do better than 56% support on Right to Life from a doctor?
BTW, Lisa Murkoswki (RINO) has a 50% rating. Only 6% difference!
There are DEMOCRATS with higher ratings than 56% (Michael Ross (D) AR)
He is mixed on abortion, typical RINO position taking both sides.
Q: If abortion becomes illegal and a woman obtains an abortion anyway, what should she be charged with? What about the doctor who performs the abortion?
A: The first thing we have to do is get the federal government out of it. We don’t need a federal abortion police. That’s the last thing that we need. There has to be a criminal penalty for the person that’s committing that crime. And I think that is the abortionist. As for the punishment, I don’t think that should be up to the president to decide.
Source: 2007 GOP YouTube debate in St. Petersburg, Florida Nov 28, 2007
Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions.
To prevent the transportation of minors in circumvention of certain laws relating to abortion, and for other purposes, including:
* Allowing for exemptions to the law if the life of the minor is in danger or if a court in the minor’s home state waive the parental notification required by that state
* Allocating fines and/or up to one year imprisonment of those convicted of transporting a minor over state lines to have an abortion
* Penalizing doctors who knowingly perform an abortion procedure without obtaining reasonable proof that the notification provisions of the minor’s home state have been satisfied
* Requiring abortion providers in states that do not have parental consent laws and who would be performing the procedure on a minor that resides in another state, to give at least a 24 hour notice to the parent or legal guardian
* Specifying that neither the minor nor her guardians may be prosecuted or sued for a violation of this act
Reference: Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act; Bill HR 748 ; vote number 2005-144 on Apr 27, 2005
Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime.
Vote to pass a bill that would make it a criminal offense to harm or kill a fetus during the commission of a violent crime. The measure would set criminal penalties, the same as those that would apply if harm or death happened to the pregnant woman, for those who harm a fetus. It is not required that the individual have prior knowledge of the pregnancy or intent to harm the fetus. This bill prohibits the death penalty from being imposed for such an offense. The bill states that its provisions should not be interpreted to apply a woman’s actions with respect to her pregnancy.
Reference: Unborn Victims of Violence Act; Bill HR 1997 ; vote number 2004-31 on Feb 26, 2004
Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes.
Vote to pass a bill that would make it a federal crime to harm a fetus while committing any of 68 federal offenses or a crime under military law. Abortion doctors and women whose own actions harmed their fetuses would be exempt.
Reference: Bill sponsored by Graham, R-SC; Bill HR 503 ; vote number 2001-89 on Apr 26, 2001
Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion.
The Child Custody Protection Act makes it a federal crime to transport a minor across state lines for the purpose of obtaining an abortion.
Reference: Bill sponsored by Ros-Lehtinen, R-FL; Bill HR 1218 ; vote number 1999-261 on Jun 30, 1999
Paul adopted the Republican Liberty Caucus Position Statement:
Q: What is the RLC’s position on abortion?
A: Neutral. We have both pro-lifers to pro-choicers, and in between. As far as libertarian groups go, you’ll find that we are probably the most tolerant of the pro-life viewpoint. Our immediate past chairman, Cong. Ron Paul (R-TX, 14th Dist.) is very pro-life. Many other members are pro-choice. As libertarians, we oppose Federal funding of abortion under any circumstances. It is not a litmus test, and it is not an issue that is often debated internally. However, the California RLC website www.LibertyCaucus.org, has sponsored a debate on the issue between two prominent members.
Source: Republican Liberty Caucus Position Statement 00-RLC14 on Dec 8, 2000
Rated 56% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion.
Paul scores 56% by the NRLC on abortion issues
OnTheIssues.org interprets the 2006 NRLC scores as follows:
* 0% - 15%: pro-choice stance (approx. 174 members)
* 16%- 84%: mixed record on abortion (approx. 101 members)
* 85%-100%: pro-life stance (approx. 190 members)
About the NRLC (from their website, www.nrlc.org):
The ultimate goal of the National Right to Life Committee is to restore legal protection to innocent human life. The primary interest of the National Right to Life Committee and its members has been the abortion controversy; however, it is also concerned with related matters of medical ethics which relate to the right to life issues of euthanasia and infanticide. The Committee does not have a position on issues such as contraception, sex education, capital punishment, and national defense. The National Right to Life Committee was founded in 1973 in response to the Roe vs. Wade Supreme Court decision, legalizing the practice of human abortion in all 50 states, throughout the entire nine months of pregnancy.
The NRLC has been instrumental in achieving a number of legislative reforms at the national level, including a ban on non-therapeutic experimentation of unborn and newborn babies, a federal conscience clause guaranteeing medical personnel the right to refuse to participate in abortion procedures, and various amendments to appropriations bills which prohibit (or limit) the use of federal funds to subsidize or promote abortions in the United States and overseas.
In addition to maintaining a lobbying presence at the federal level, NRLC serves as a clearinghouse of information for its state affiliates and local chapters, its individual members, the press, and the public.
Source: NRLC website 06n-NRLC on Dec 31, 2006
You're right. It's kind of like the idiot 2'nd Amendment guys who show up to rallies with M4 rifles slung to their backs; they make us all look bad. Nevertheless, the larger message stands! I just watched Paul's speech on YouTube and I couldn't find a thing I disagreed with. It's a breath of fresh air to know a Constitutionalist still exists in politics!
Yeah go Ron I mean look how good he did the last time.
It proves that the CPAC was, on average, crazy.
Yep...His son aint too bad either....
1/3 of conservative groups didn’t attend. And only 1/3 of those who attended voted. 30% of those who voted went for Paul. Combined with Gary Johnson’s vote, 35% of 1/3 of 1/3 went libertarian.
Typical. We are only going to win if we work in a coalition with those who lack the ideological purity that each of us thinks we singularly possess.
Straw and pole at fudgepac? That’s gonna be a hard brick to pass.
BFD. Ron Paul is a kook and he fact he could win this straw poll going away tells me all I need to know about this congregation of fools.
For all the good it did him last time.
I just watched Paul’s speech on YouTube and I couldn’t find a thing I disagreed with.
I just watched Paul’s speech on YouTube and I couldn’t find a thing I disagreed with. It’s a breath of fresh air to know a Constitutionalists still exists in politics!
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Others can decide...Here’s his CPAC speech...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5KyWxU-bkg
“It’s a breath of fresh air to know a Constitutionalist still exists in politics!”
Yep. I love it, but that very concept is what drives all of these neocons so batsh!t crazy.
Crazy PAC marginalizes itself further.
It's gone from FudgePAC to Jack-in-the-Box-ClownPAC.
Yep. I love it, but that very concept is what drives all of these neocons so batsh!t crazy.
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Yep, they do the big chicken real good.
CPAC speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5KyWxU-bkg
To show how worthless the CPAC straw poll is all you have to do is look back at this time in 2007 when Romney came in first and Giuliani came in second. McCain who did not attend, came in 5th and was booed when his name was mentioned - yet look who won the primaries and carried the nomination.
Conclusion - enjoy the moment Paul and Paulbots because thats all you’ll get.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/03/AR2007030301078.html
McCain was nearly bankrupt and ready to fold up, then Giuliani imploded. All of the establishment support then reached down into the gutter and pulled McCain out, pushing the other candidates aside. McCain had no grassroots support at all. It was all establishment. I truly hope that’s not what you want.
This thread deserves to get fried...extra crispy.
Proving once again that the C in CPAC doesn’t stand for Conservative.
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