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Is LASIK Eye Surgery Safe? FDA Scientist Regrets Saying 'Yes'
Politics Daily ^ | 2/12/11 | Bonnie Goldstein

Posted on 02/12/2011 8:33:57 PM PST by Nachum

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1 posted on 02/12/2011 8:34:02 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Thanks. I’ve wondered about that. ...getting my first prescription bifocals soon after relying on cheap reading glasses for too long.


2 posted on 02/12/2011 8:38:16 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: Nachum

Yep, never be the chimp in space. I have dry eyes which ruled me out.


3 posted on 02/12/2011 8:38:24 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Nachum

I went through LASIK in September and do not regret it at all.


4 posted on 02/12/2011 8:38:27 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Nachum

I had a nightmarish experience with laser eye surgery that was done by a quack. Luckily, I found an eye surgeon who really knew what he was doing and it got resolved. for a while I feared that I would lose my sight in one eye. Scariest 8 months of my life.


5 posted on 02/12/2011 8:38:43 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Nachum
It did just great for me!


6 posted on 02/12/2011 8:40:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Nachum
Lasik works for some people, but its not the panacea that the outfits that try to sell it make it out to be. Of the people I know who have had it, about 1/2 are happy with the procedure the rest feel they wasted a ton of money for little or no improvement. Also I know a few people who had their night vision destroyed by the procedure to such a point that they can't drive after dusk.
7 posted on 02/12/2011 8:43:58 PM PST by apillar
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To: Nachum

What don’t they regret saying?


8 posted on 02/12/2011 8:44:12 PM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Nachum

Everyone I know who had LASIK eye surgery, about 5 people, love it and had no problems .


9 posted on 02/12/2011 8:44:25 PM PST by MissMack99 (Mitt Romney is a FRAUD, he RUINED Mass. Don't let him finish Obama's job.)
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To: apillar

It works, but it’s short lived.


10 posted on 02/12/2011 8:45:01 PM PST by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Nachum

I have worked with lasers for many years. All of my work has been with Military applications such as target designators. The medical use of lasers has been phenominal. They are great for such complex medical procedures such as repairing torn retinas. That being said, I have a real aversion to shining a Class IV laser (very hazardous) into your eye for vanity sake because you don’t want to wear corrective lenses.


11 posted on 02/12/2011 8:48:27 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Revolting cat!

Do Not Stare Into Laser Beam With Remaining Eye


12 posted on 02/12/2011 8:50:11 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nachum

I have been hesitant on doing Lasik. Even though glasses are a pain in the @$$, I will stay with them ! I wonder about the long term effects.


13 posted on 02/12/2011 8:50:56 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: b4its2late

Nope.


14 posted on 02/12/2011 8:51:34 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Nachum
I had lasik surgery done in Windsor Ontario before it was approved in the US. That would have been about 1998 or so. Don't recall the year exactly. I had very severe astigmatism, having worn bottle-bottom glasses since I was a young kid including bifocals as a teen. Since I had lasik at age fifty plus, I have had zero problems, with 20/20 and near 20/20 vision. No complaints from me.

My guess is, the early practitioners were especially careful-- I had my eyes measured by laser for a 3D picture a couple weeks apart about three different times before having the operation. I don't know if this is still standard practise. I wonder if the proliferation of clinics has led to carelessness in some cases.

15 posted on 02/12/2011 8:51:35 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum

My friend had Lasik, said she can read without glasses but stars are blurry. I must see stars.

I wear one contact for reading, one for distance, and it is fine. I love my contacts.


16 posted on 02/12/2011 8:54:49 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Nachum

I’ve read that the Navy has their own type of laser eye surgery, that apparently takes a little while longer to recover from, but the results are better.

If I do have laser surgery, which I do want so I don’t have to worry about contacts and glasses, I’m hoping the Navy’s procedure becomes widespread.


17 posted on 02/12/2011 8:56:11 PM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: irishtenor

I don’t know ONE person who’s had lasik and regrets it. Happy you had it done .. wish I could. Am just waiting for cataracts that (I hear) will have the same or similar effect.


18 posted on 02/12/2011 8:56:22 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: b4its2late
It works, but it’s short lived.

The eyeball is like the gut it keeps on growing, unfortunately like the gut it doesn't grow like we would want it too. I got mind done about 6 years ago, don't regret it, I was pretty blind figuratively speaking, still have to wear the cheaters for reading, that is something they don't tell you, but it is better then all the time.

19 posted on 02/12/2011 9:03:35 PM PST by ReformedBeckite ( post 3 of 3 I'm allowing my self each day)
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To: Nachum

My aunt, father, and mother-in-law all had it about 10 years ago and think it was great. My dad still had to wear reading glasses, but before it he was practically blind without glasses. After his surgery was the first time since the 1960’s he could get up and see without needing to put glasses on immediately. He was the only person I ever knew that had to wear contacts and glasses at the same time—the only other choice was those big, thick coke bottle glasses that he would never wear in public, but would wear when first getting up or going to bed. A month after his surgery, he was able to pass the vision test for renewing your driver’s license without corrective lenses for the first time in 40 years!


20 posted on 02/12/2011 9:03:48 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Nachum

Eyes cannot be replaced.

I have always been skeptical about the long-term effects of any eye surgery.

I have a strong feeling my skepticism will be answered when the people who had LASIK and the like lose a lot of their vision in their latter years. It doesn’t make me happy, it just makes me right.

My lens Rx hasn’t changed much in 20 years (I literally can wear glasses I had 20 years ago and my vision is just fine) — I will stick with glasses thank you very much.


21 posted on 02/12/2011 9:05:44 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: Nachum

Bump for later tally.


22 posted on 02/12/2011 9:06:39 PM PST by NoLibZone (Obama must be impeached and tried for treason.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I had lasik surgery done in Windsor Ontario before it was approved in the US. That would have been about 1998 or so. Don't recall the year exactly. I had very severe astigmatism, having worn bottle-bottom glasses since I was a young kid including bifocals as a teen. Since I had lasik at age fifty plus, I have had zero problems, with 20/20 and near 20/20 vision. No complaints from me.

I had mine done about ten years ago when I was in my mid 40s. Before that, from the time I was a kid, the only time I had my glasses off was when I was in the shower or washing my face. Other than that, the first thing I did in the morning was put on my glasses and the last thing I did when I was ready for sleep was to put my glasses on the nightstand.... where I could find them without the ability to see them in the morning. If I ever had my glasses knocked off for some reason, I'd better have somebody with me, because I wasn't going to be able to find them back by myself.

Since the Lasik surgery, I can see things good up close and I can see things good at a distance. The only real problem has been a bit of a loss of night vision... just to the extent that I have a hard time tying on a new fishing lure in low-light conditions.

Getting rid of the eyeglasses was one of the best things I've ever done for myself.

23 posted on 02/12/2011 9:08:36 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: freedumb2003

You’re right. Wearing glasses is a minor pain sometimes but absolutely not enough to justify having someone carve around MY eyes with a laser. Hope it works out OK for those who have had it, but not for me.


24 posted on 02/12/2011 9:14:40 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Nachum

I had Lasik over 4 years ago. No worries. Good decision.


25 posted on 02/12/2011 9:16:28 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: EDINVA

My only issue is that I keep having to look for reading glasses for close up stuff. Other than that, my astigmatism was so bad that I had constant headaches for years. Glasses did not help. I haven’t had a headache since September!!!


26 posted on 02/12/2011 9:19:41 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: Nachum

Tiger Woods won like 20 majors after getting LASIK. I personally know a dozen folks who have gotten it. No reports of any problems, except dry eye in one who had dry eye before.


27 posted on 02/12/2011 9:24:31 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: bboop

I must see stars.
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I got a hammer, come here.


28 posted on 02/12/2011 9:27:24 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Nachum

cut your eyes with a laser, what could possibly go wrong?


29 posted on 02/12/2011 9:28:07 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: wjcsux
That being said, I have a real aversion to shining a Class IV laser (very hazardous) into your eye for vanity sake because you don’t want to wear corrective lenses.

I think anyone would! That is why they use excimer lasers instead.

30 posted on 02/12/2011 9:29:07 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: bigbob

I have perfect vision and i’m in my 40s. The doctor says I’m gonna need bifocals in about 2-3 years though...VERY far sighted but so far my eyes are able to adjust so I would never know I was far sighted without a doctor telling me so. The doctor put drops in my eyes once that paralyzed whatever muscle it is that corrects for far sightedness and WOW, WAS i BLIND! Couldn’t see anything closer than 30 feet.

I won’t get lasik. I’ll do just fine with bifocals. Or maybe I’ll just do like they did in the old days and read with a giant magnifying glass. In fact, after the drops the doctor gave me, that’s how I worked for a few hours. One hand on the keyboard and one hand holding a magnifying glass in front of the computer screen.


31 posted on 02/12/2011 9:35:17 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Nachum

It isn’t particularly easy to find an ophthalmologist who has had LASIK.


32 posted on 02/12/2011 9:38:06 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: freedumb2003
Eyes cannot be replaced.

Corneas can be replaced.

It doesn’t make me happy, it just makes me right.

No it doesn't.

33 posted on 02/12/2011 9:38:52 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: familyop

I got LASIK six years ago. No regrets, whatsoever.


34 posted on 02/12/2011 9:38:58 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: rbg81

please name that quack, so people will avoid him???no


35 posted on 02/12/2011 9:39:34 PM PST by haircutter
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To: b4its2late

I don’t know anybody who has had the experience of “short live” improvements.


36 posted on 02/12/2011 9:40:37 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Nachum

I think the FDA does more harm than good. LASIK appears to be safe and effective in the vast majority of cases.


37 posted on 02/12/2011 9:42:32 PM PST by youngidiot (Don't let the name fool ya, toots.)
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To: familyop

I think it is safe. It was new in the early eighties. Read about its early trials. Opthalmogist cut on corneas every day. They perform cataract surgery by implanting new plastic lenses. They replace corneas from doners to those sightless. My opinion, the cutting of the cornea to correct astigmatism has been shown to be safe.


38 posted on 02/12/2011 9:43:18 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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>>Corneas can be replaced. <

Corneas are not eyes.

>>No it doesn’t.<<

Yes it does. Better safe than blind.


39 posted on 02/12/2011 9:43:34 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: Nachum

My brother, who has needed corrective lenses nearly all his life had laser eye correction performed close to a decade ago and still won’t shut up about how it was the best decision he ever made.


40 posted on 02/12/2011 9:45:03 PM PST by SpaceBar
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>>I got LASIK six years ago. No regrets, whatsoever.<<

Check back with us in 20 years. Or, use your voice interface to do so, anyway.


41 posted on 02/12/2011 9:45:41 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: Nachum
I want to add that I think its big success is with near sighted patients. If you have presbyopia, then I would ask if if would help. In presbyopia, they may do one eye like the contact lens treatment - one lens for near and one lens for far sight. If Lasix can treat presbyopia, I am for it.
42 posted on 02/12/2011 9:52:58 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: freedumb2003

Publicly demonstrating how ignorant you are isn’t a character trait to be proud of.


43 posted on 02/12/2011 9:55:00 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: freedumb2003

I agree. I have one set of eyes and I do not want to screw them up. I will keep my glasses thank you.


44 posted on 02/12/2011 10:02:03 PM PST by Dawggie
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>>Publicly demonstrating how ignorant you are isn’t a character trait to be proud of.<<

Healthy skepticism that prolongs sight is always to be lauded.

Trust me, in 20 years the demand for audio interfaces for the newly blind will be much in demand.


45 posted on 02/12/2011 10:04:05 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: freedumb2003
Check back with us in 20 years. Or, use your voice interface to do so, anyway.

The Wiki article on LASIK says the risk of significant loss of vision with LASIK is 1 in 10,000. Risk of significant loss of vision with contact lenses is 5 times as high. People have been getting the surgery for over 20 years now, and I'm not aware of any studies reporting the bad longterm outcomes you're warning people about.

Is there some particular reason that you seem so determined to frighten people away from getting a medical procedure done that might make them happier?

46 posted on 02/12/2011 10:06:19 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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>>The Wiki article on LASIK says the risk of significant loss of vision with LASIK is 1 in 10,000. <<

Ah, Wiki. A good source for information about pop culture. I am sure its background on Donny Osmond is quite exhaustive.

Anyone who uses Wiki as a source should bear the results of their own research.

>>Is there some particular reason that you seem so determined to frighten people away from getting a medical procedure done that might make them happier?<<

Yes — they should be concerned about long-term blindness. Except in extreme cases this operation makes no sense.

As I said, eyes cannot be replaced. It might be worth the risk to some. Not to me.


47 posted on 02/12/2011 10:12:09 PM PST by freedumb2003 (The TOTUS-reader is a Judas Goat, leading the American sheeple to the slaugherhouse /Parmy)
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To: familyop

“Thanks. I’ve wondered about that”

One of the dirty little secrets of LASIK is that it doesn’t really help presbyopia. All it does is change when you need classes. If you happen to be like me and are near-sighted, then you wouldn’t need glasses for distance usage, but would have to use them for close work, which I can do fine now without glasses at all.

To overcome this, they try to convince you to surgically set one eye with a close focal length and one eye with a far focal length, sort of like having one eye set to macro vision and one set to telephoto vision. I simulated this with contacts and felt I had sub par vision all the time, so was smart enough to not go through with the surgery.


48 posted on 02/12/2011 10:12:23 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff!)
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To: Nachum

All this bureau nonsense should/could have been avoided by requiring EVERY H.S. graduate, trained in any school system from age 5 on, to be prepared to be licensed in the ability to argue their own cases before a verdict box of 12, the way it is supposed to be.

We would know public information, probably much sooner, if this were the case. Furthermore, the incentive for govt. protected fascism would be curtailed. And frivolous plaintiff costs absorbed by the loser.


49 posted on 02/12/2011 10:15:52 PM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: Nachum
I had Lasik surgery in 2001 and went from 20/400 vision to 20/15,20/20. After the surgery I experienced dry eyes that I resolved by using a good moisturizing eye drop. There was also some double vision and a halo effect around lights especially at night, However, after two or three months these side effects completely cleared up and I have not had even one problem in over ten years. It was one of the best things I have ever spent money for ($4500 at that time). My doctor was an expert in the field, he had been one of the pioneers for the Eximer laser, he taught seminars and only he ever touched the machine for the procedures. He provided one year of follow up visits after the surgery. I was thrilled with the results and would do it again.

Anyone who is thinking of doing this MUST be well screened because not everyone should have it done. Also, I would highly suggest NOT bargain hunting - it's your eyesight!!! Make sure your doctor is well known and has readily available references from patients. I can't begin to tell you how great it is to be totally free from glasses or contacts. I do not regret it one bit.

50 posted on 02/12/2011 10:17:40 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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