Skip to comments.'Gay Conservative' Is an Oxymoron
Posted on 02/14/2011 7:51:47 AM PST by Kaslin
CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, has been an annual gig for me for years. But this year I concluded it was not my place and I declined to participate in the various venues at the event for which I was invited.
Yes, the reason I declined was the inclusion of GOProud, a group identifying itself as representing gay conservatives and their allies, as a sponsor of the event.
And its the reason why some of the nations most important conservative organizations the Heritage Foundation, the American Family Association, Concerned Women of America, Family Research Council, Media Research Center, and the National Organization for Marriage - did not participate.
The founder and chairman of GOProud removed any doubt on my part that not participating was the correct decision by dismissing these groups as losers, clowns, and not relevant.
I, of course, have been accused of being worse than a clown. The barrage regularly comes in from the left. But this is a first that Ive had to listen to this kind of stuff from a group that postures as conservative.
I became a conservative in church. I thought I was doing okay in my previous life - scamming the welfare system, going to the beach, soaking in my welfare subsidized hot tub, treating sex as a hobby, and abortion as birth control.
In our culture today that views material prosperity as the ultimate barometer of success, the truth is becoming unfortunately lost that the evil man can prosper. And if there is nothing more than what is before our eyes in this world, what does it matter?
When I understood how the culture of welfare state materialism was destroying not just my life, but all of black America, there was no dividing line in my mind between social issues and economic issues. The only dividing line I saw was between right and wrong, good and evil.
The idea of gay conservative is an oxymoron.
Gay is everything that conservative is not.
The foundation of the world view that so-called gay conservatives embrace has far more in common with liberalism than with conservatism.
Its a world view that is man-centered rather than God-centered. It is a world view that rejects eternal truths passed on from the beginning of time. Although the world view that gay conservatives choose to invent may diverge from the world view of liberals, their common ground is they make it all up.
And it is here where gay conservatives and liberals fundamentally depart from conservatives.
Conservatives believe that there are objective and eternal truths, not of the product of any individual human mind, that are transmitted through the generations. Culture is not like HDTV or iPhones where the newest model is the best.
These eternal truths provide the light in the fog that keeps us from crashing on the rocky shores where our base instincts lead us.
Gay is liberal, not conservative, regardless of what their stand may be on government spending or taxes.
Its why, like all liberals, they use language to create reality, rather than appreciate that words have meaning that reflect reality.
So they have re-invented the word gay, re-invented the word marriage, and now they want to re-invent the word conservative.
Finally, we will re-invent the word freedom and well put the final stamp on the idea that a free society, rather than being the path to truth, is the path to meaninglessness.
What individuals choose in private, and for which they bear personal responsibility, is separate from what we sanction publicly for which we all must bear responsibility.
A value-neutral government is impossible. The central battle in our country today is about values and how we understand freedom. It is a battle for our very soul. And, as we learned from CPAC, its not a struggle that is just between Democrats and Republicans.
Anyone who truly shares the basic tenents of conservatism without qualification is a welcome vote, private lives aside.
You totally miss the point. Star doesn't want conservatism defined by 'her' anything. She's a conservative, no adjective or hyphenation necessary.
However, GOProud is the one attempting to define conservatism and create disunity. It exists solely to put an adjective/hyphenation to conservatism and DEFINE conservatism as "anything goes" from a sexuality standpoint. Nah baby nah.
Objectively looking at that statement in terms of truism, the statement is not true. Socially, of course it is. On economic issues, issues of national security, border control, taxation and size of government, there certainly are gays that hold a conservative view.
The question becomes, is conformity on social issues required to hold other conservative views?
They engage in a one way process ~ and we are on the wrong end of it.
I don’t really care if a conservative is rump-riding in his bedroom. That’s his business.
I *do* care when the aforementioned rump-rider calls himself a conservative but is pushing a liberal gay-friendly agenda of gay “marriage,” gay “education” in our schools, etc.
There is a world of difference between “conservative who happens to be gay” and the GOProud-style “gay conservative.” The former has his conservatism as more important and that’s fine. The latter has his gayness as more important and that’s NOT fine.
When it comes to practice, all they perpetuate is sin, HIV and a host of other STDs, suicides, alcohol and drug abuse, partner abuse, an aggressive agenda to teach their filth to our children as "sex ed", a desire to destroy the institution of marriage by co-habiting and demanding society call them 'married', take our tax dollars to research the disease they created and perpetuate..AIDS, and I could go on and on. Who on earth would want to call these twisted, vile people "friends"? Simply because they want to live in a economically sound country doesn't mean they have 'conservative leanings', it just means they're perverts who want to live in comfort.
Unfortunately, the term "conservative" has bastardized itself into the realm of economics, of which is it has nothing to do with. It's just another sleazy way for liberals and progressives to put up a facade. "I'm a raving sexual deviate, but I want less government and less spending, (just so long as they don't spend less on AIDS), so I'm a conservative". barf
” gay crowd are not willing to go along with all the demands “smaller government” places on them. “
Neither are a lot of people on this board who call themselves conservatives.
You’ve made a generalization about gays in general, and most are for bigger government, or vote for bigger government because of a prejudice against Republicans and conservatives. What about the gays who were at CPAC? And what about the so-called conservatives? Which group believes in smaller government, and which group wants bigger government?
Folks who want the government to provide special protection to gay people necessarily want “bigger government” ~
Special protection from what?
We'll work it from that angle, OK?
The only winning formula for conservatism in the United States is Ronald Maximus Reagan's Three-Legged-Stool. Social issues are just as important as the fiscal and national defense ones. If libertarians try to pogo-stick on only one, it ain't gonna work.
I’m jusr a poor, unsaved, ingnorant Jew. Maybe someone can explain what your Jesus meant when he said, “He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone.”
And what about all those Old Testement commandments that are no longer valid? Like eating ham? How come that is OK, but buggery is not?
“Why don’t you start by telling us what you don’t like about “straight society”?
We’ll work it from that angle, OK? “
I’m straight, I’m a Jew, and I think buggery is a sin. I’m also an American, and I believe in small Constitutional government and individual freedom. What’s your problem with smaller government?
Communists are the antithesis of capitalists. Conservatives are capitalists, hence they cannot be communist.
Whereas gays are not the best conservatives, for they practice something that is an affront to G-d. They can, however, be conservative in all the other ways that make conservatives conservative. Gays can be capitalists, as it is not mutually exclusive. Gays can also be anti-abortionists. Gays can also want small government and low taxes. Gays can also be pro-economic growth.
Communists, however, can’t be any of the above as G-d is not recognized, the state must be all-encompassing, and all economic growth must come from the state.
Just how many of us have no sins before G-d? Gays sin before G-d, but that does not keep them from his graces... any more than it keeps anyone who has sinned before G-d from his graces.
That said, they do continue to sin nonstop, so it’ll catch up to them... eventually. Well, unless they are Catholic and give a heartfelt deathbed confession.
Then they’re heading to the pearly gates...
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