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'Gay Conservative' Is an Oxymoron
Townhall.com ^ | February 14, 2011 | Star Parker

Posted on 02/14/2011 7:51:47 AM PST by Kaslin

CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, has been an annual gig for me for years. But this year I concluded it was not my place and I declined to participate in the various venues at the event for which I was invited.

Yes, the reason I declined was the inclusion of GOProud, a group identifying itself as representing “gay conservatives and their allies,” as a sponsor of the event.

And it’s the reason why some of the nation’s most important conservative organizations – the Heritage Foundation, the American Family Association, Concerned Women of America, Family Research Council, Media Research Center, and the National Organization for Marriage - did not participate.

The founder and chairman of GOProud removed any doubt on my part that not participating was the correct decision by dismissing these groups as “losers,” “clowns,” and “not relevant.”

I, of course, have been accused of being worse than a clown. The barrage regularly comes in from the left. But this is a first that I’ve had to listen to this kind of stuff from a group that postures as “conservative.”

I became a conservative in church. I thought I was doing okay in my previous life - scamming the welfare system, going to the beach, soaking in my welfare subsidized hot tub, treating sex as a hobby, and abortion as birth control.

In our culture today that views material prosperity as the ultimate barometer of success, the truth is becoming unfortunately lost that the evil man can prosper. And if there is nothing more than what is before our eyes in this world, what does it matter?

When I understood how the culture of welfare state materialism was destroying not just my life, but all of black America, there was no dividing line in my mind between “social issues” and “economic issues.” The only dividing line I saw was between right and wrong, good and evil.

The idea of “gay conservative” is an oxymoron.

“Gay” is everything that “conservative” is not.

The foundation of the world view that so-called “gay conservatives” embrace has far more in common with liberalism than with conservatism.

It’s a world view that is man-centered rather than God-centered. It is a world view that rejects eternal truths passed on from the beginning of time. Although the world view that “gay conservatives” choose to invent may diverge from the world view of liberals, their common ground is they make it all up.

And it is here where “gay conservatives” and “liberals” fundamentally depart from conservatives.

Conservatives believe that there are objective and eternal truths, not of the product of any individual human mind, that are transmitted through the generations. Culture is not like HDTV or iPhones where the newest model is the best.

These eternal truths provide the light in the fog that keeps us from crashing on the rocky shores where our base instincts lead us.

“Gay” is liberal, not conservative, regardless of what their stand may be on government spending or taxes.

It’s why, like all liberals, they use language to create reality, rather than appreciate that words have meaning that reflect reality.

So they have re-invented the word “gay,” re-invented the word “marriage”, and now they want to re-invent the word “conservative.”

Finally, we will re-invent the word “freedom” and we’ll put the final stamp on the idea that a free society, rather than being the path to truth, is the path to meaninglessness.

What individuals choose in private, and for which they bear personal responsibility, is separate from what we sanction publicly for which we all must bear responsibility.

A value-neutral government is impossible. The central battle in our country today is about values and how we understand freedom. It is a battle for our very soul. And, as we learned from CPAC, it’s not a struggle that is just between Democrats and Republicans.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cpac; gays4romney; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; parker; starparker
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To: OB1kNOb
There are clearly differing opinions of what it means to "support the homosexual agenda" as has been demonstrated repeatedly in all these threads.

In my opinion anyone who is opposed to homosexual marriage and who is opposed to tax dollars being used to advocate homosexuality (especially in the education system) is opposed to that agenda.

41 posted on 02/14/2011 8:40:06 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Who's Damaged America More? (a) Al Qaeda (b) Wall Street Investment Bankers)
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To: Daveinyork
I have no problem with smaller government and advocate for it every day.

Your homosexual buddies want special protection from that government ~ which always means AN EXPANSION OF THE POLICE POWERS and greater use of the courts to beat down private individuals who they believe have violated the provisions of the "special protection".

Expansion of police powers is a growth in government ~ the antithesis of smaller and more limited government.

BTW, what's that got to do with being Jewish? Am I supposed to believe that people who have an ancient tradition of intrusive congregational regulation (really small government BTW) can't be advocates of smaller government?

42 posted on 02/14/2011 8:41:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Daveinyork
Until we succeed in getting smaller government, those of us who want smaller government had better quit this sniping at each other, or we will have larger government and no freedom. Either we hang together, or we hang separately.

You make the breathtakingly false assumption that GOProud is a group of conservatives. They are not. Allow infiltration of alleged "fiscal conservatives" like this, and you will have blatant, total Leftism in the end.

"Conservatism" can't be parsed. Either you are conservative in all areas, or the word has no real meaning.

43 posted on 02/14/2011 8:42:47 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: K-Stater
They are not "natural" Conservatives. GOProud has a legislative agenda that has everything to do with special rights. That is NOT Conservative.

Christopher Barron, GOProud Chairman of the Board: "We are a gay organization, we only work on gay issues, we have never claimed otherwise. My God people." Aug 4, 2010; 4:04pm

44 posted on 02/14/2011 8:43:36 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: brownsfan
Explain to me why they need a sexually identified group in order to vote.

They don't. They need it to PUSH THEIR AGENDA.

45 posted on 02/14/2011 8:44:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: muawiyah
The queers know that if they can get a queer agenda plank in the GOP platform, they can destroy the party.

If it was a good idea libertarians would win national elections, it isn't, and they don't!

46 posted on 02/14/2011 8:46:59 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: gogogodzilla
Just how many of us have no sins before G-d? Gays sin before G-d, but that does not keep them from his graces... any more than it keeps anyone who has sinned before G-d from his graces.

Do you revel in your sin, saying that it is not sin, and demand that others do so too? If you are a thief, do you have "thief-pride" parades and try to undo laws against theft? Do you bully and disparage family and friends because they don't agree with your newfound "freedom" to be a thief?

There's all the difference.

47 posted on 02/14/2011 8:47:02 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I think what Star is writing about, is very much focused on gay-political-agenda groups like GOProud and Log Cabin Republicans.

People who struggle with same-sex attractions are not politically problematic: we all have our struggles to live justly and decently with our particular temptations. That doesn't mean we start groups like "Adulterers Proud" or "Serial Divorcers Come Out!"

Star Parker isn't asking for a test to determine who is "privately" afflicted with a disordered sex drive, and who is not. She's drawing the line at the advocacy groups.

48 posted on 02/14/2011 8:47:16 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (In theory. there's no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. -Yogi Berra)
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To: Kaslin

“gay” means happy, joyous, which these people certainly are not. They are homosexuals, not “gay”. My sister’s name is Gay and she was born in 1949. It’s a shame that her beautiful name is so disparaged.


49 posted on 02/14/2011 8:48:24 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Chiltepe

Because sexual identity politics only serves to push an agenda. Homosexuals can vote anyway they choose. They don’t need a sexually identified group to do so. But they do need it to push their agenda.


50 posted on 02/14/2011 8:48:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: brownsfan

Ditto to what you said, Brownsfan!


51 posted on 02/14/2011 8:50:05 AM PST by sand lake bar
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To: Notary Sojac
In my opinion anyone who is opposed to homosexual marriage and who is opposed to tax dollars being used to advocate homosexuality (especially in the education system) is opposed to that agenda.

Do you feel that this statement reflects an organization that is opposed to the 'gay agenda'?

But Christopher Barron, chairman of GOProud‘s board, said the boycott has been “a complete and total unmitigated disaster for the boycotters.”

“These are people who have been treated like clowns for years,” he said. “They’re not relevant, they haven’t been relevant, and it’s a disservice to the conservative movement to pretend that their boycott, their non-participation, is somehow symptomatic of a wider split in the conservative movement.”

52 posted on 02/14/2011 8:50:18 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Beagle8U
Yeah, that's corollary number 2 from dicta 1. To wit: The American voting public does not vote for Republicans who advocate a gay agenda item, or who allow gays into important party jobs, or who advocate voting for another gay for Congress or the State legislature.

They just don't, and the risk is too great to have them or their friends around in the party structure anywhere.

Their money is fine. Better off in our pockets than that of the Democrats.

53 posted on 02/14/2011 8:50:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Their agenda is not conservative.

GOProud Federal Legislative Agenda

The so-called “gay agenda” is defined by the left through a narrow prism of legislative goals. In contrast to the approach of the left, GOProud’s agenda emphasizes conservative and libertarian principles that will improve the daily lives of all Americans, but especially gay and lesbian Americans.

1 – TAX REFORM - We support replacing the current tax code with the Fair Tax. Until then, we support death tax repeal; domestic partner tax equity; cuts in the capital gains and corporate tax rates to jump start our economy and create jobs; a fairer, flatter and substantially simpler tax code.

2 – HEALTHCARE REFORM – Free market healthcare reform. Allow for the purchase of insurance across state lines – expanding access to domestic partner benefits; emphasizing individual ownership of healthcare insurance – such a shift would prevent discriminatory practices by an employer or the government.

3 – SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM - The only way to permanent solvency in the Social Security system is through the creation of inheritable personal savings accounts. Personal savings accounts would give gay and lesbian couples the same opportunity to leave their accounts to their spouses as their straight counterparts.

6 – FIGHTING GLOBAL EXTREMISTS – Standing strong against radical regimes that refuse to recognize the basic human rights of gays and lesbians, women and religious minorities.

7 – DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION – Opposing any anti-gay federal marriage amendment. Marriage should be a question for the states. A federal constitutional amendment on marriage would be an unprecedented federal power grab from the states.

8 – ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY ENTREPRENEURSHIP – Package of free market reforms to encourage and support small businesses and entrepreneurship. Such reforms would create jobs for all Americans – including gay Americans.

54 posted on 02/14/2011 8:55:03 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: fwdude

“of alleged “fiscal conservatives”

And your evidence of this is?


55 posted on 02/14/2011 8:57:35 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork; muawiyah
Which group believes in smaller government, and which group wants bigger government?

Homosexuals want bigger government. See their legislative agenda in Post 54

56 posted on 02/14/2011 8:57:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson
They are not "natural" Conservatives. GOProud has a legislative agenda that has everything to do with special rights. That is NOT Conservative.

I am amazed that we have to continually debate this established fact on every new thread with this topic at FR! It's almost as if Grover Norquist has trolls here.

57 posted on 02/14/2011 8:58:32 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Homosexuals want bigger government.”

All homosexuals?


58 posted on 02/14/2011 8:59:07 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: jiminycricket000

I would be lying if I said I didn’t find most homosexuals to be bizarre, deviant, detestable fruitcakes.

Some of these people with whom I associate are hold-overs from before I REALLY understood where I stood politically and socially, before I realized that I am a conservative. That they do not push homosexuality on me or those others we associate with, that they oppose programs such as obamacare and are against big government, that they understand and respect that my religious beliefs do not lead to approval of homosexuality, that they believe one of the biggest damaging forces in our country are the “loud and proud” crowd, and that they were not in favor of the repeal of DADT speaks volumes.

These are not people with whom I interact on a daily basis, and they certainly are not primary movers within my life. But I also have no tossed them aside as I have come into my conservative beliefs, because I am of the mind that nobody is without the potential for change and redemption until the day they die. And I am of the mind that it is vital that they have conservative influence, because without a strong conservative voice they will be left only with progressives to guide them.

Even if it only results in keeping them uncertain and prevents political involvement on the side of liberalism, that is worth the while. If it results in even a single one of them voting conservative, all the better.

How do you reach those with whom you do not interact?


59 posted on 02/14/2011 8:59:27 AM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: Daveinyork

Bigger government that they’ll gladly use to bludgeon you with for saying “buggery is a sin.”


60 posted on 02/14/2011 9:00:23 AM PST by Nickname
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