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'Gay Conservative' Is an Oxymoron
Townhall.com ^ | February 14, 2011 | Star Parker

Posted on 02/14/2011 7:51:47 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: DBeers

That’s true, I don’t understand Christianity. I’m a Jew.


161 posted on 02/14/2011 12:25:09 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: fwdude

Without libertarians, you big government conservatives will only have liberals to ally yourselves with, or you’ll be lonely.


162 posted on 02/14/2011 12:27:23 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork
You haven't addressed healthcare or government social security or "domestic partner" tax credits...how about federal government "encouraging homosexual owners of small businesses?

They want the same rights as heterosexual marrieds. I don't support that. Do you?

163 posted on 02/14/2011 12:30:58 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: fluffdaddy

I would to let military leaders advise on the subject of DADT. If they think getting rid of it makes for a less effective military, then keep it. As we’ve been telling the liberals, the purpose of the military is to kill people and break things, it’s not a social program. Whatever makes it more effective at killing people and breaking things of those who would kill me and break my things, is OK with me.


164 posted on 02/14/2011 12:31:14 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: DJ MacWoW

“You haven’t addressed healthcare or government social security or “domestic partner” tax credits...how about federal government “encouraging homosexual owners of small businesses?”

Either a flat tax or a fairtax would get rid of those “tax benefits” I read that they are for the fairtax. The federal government should neither encourage, nor discourage any owners of businesses, large, medium, or small.


165 posted on 02/14/2011 12:34:32 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork; fwdude

Libertarians ARE liberal. SOCIAL liberals.


166 posted on 02/14/2011 12:36:03 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Daveinyork

You are dancing. Do you support married benefits for homosexual “domestic partners”?


167 posted on 02/14/2011 12:37:26 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Daveinyork
That’s true, I don’t understand Christianity. I’m a Jew.

OK -then I will provide a quick thumbnail sketch for you regarding homosexual sex not being 'okay' now due to abolishing old laws RE: Old Testament versus New Testament

Some quotes that come to mind...

New Testament: Sacred Scripture on subject of homosexuality:

  1. Matthew 5:1-48

    17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.

    18 Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.

    19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever obeys and teaches these commandments will be called greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

  2. Matthew 15:1-39

    19 For from the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, unchastity, theft, false witness, blasphemy.

  3. 1 Timothy 1:1-20

    8 We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law,

    9 with the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for the lawless and unruly, the godless and sinful, the unholy and profane, those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers,

    10 the unchaste, practicing homosexuals, kidnapers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is opposed to sound teaching,

    11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

  4. 1 Corinthians 6:1-20

    9 Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor practicing homosexuals

    10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.

  5. Romans 1:1-32

    22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools

    23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes.

    24 Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies.

    25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    25 Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural,

    26 and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity.


168 posted on 02/14/2011 12:48:28 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Let’s cut to the chase here, do you want the government to outlaw sodomy?


169 posted on 02/14/2011 12:54:40 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: DJ MacWoW

What benefits? Government benefits? no, not for anyone, gay straight, or anything in between. Not even for you, unless you are a veteran.


170 posted on 02/14/2011 12:56:12 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: hosepipe
"A "conservative gay group" has dingle berries on their politics."

Sounds like a great tagline.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

171 posted on 02/14/2011 1:13:03 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Daveinyork
Let’s cut to the chase here, do you want the government to outlaw sodomy?

Until the 1970's it was in every state. Even Jefferson thought that it should be.

Thomas Jefferson, A Bill for Proportioning Crimes and Punishments - 1778

Whosoever shall be guilty of Rape, Polygamy, or Sodomy with man or woman shall be punished, if a man, by castration, if a woman, by cutting thro' the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch diameter at the least.

That's what a crafter of the Constitution thought the punishment should be. However, Virginia kept the death penalty.

172 posted on 02/14/2011 1:14:42 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Daveinyork

Ah you’re a liberaltarian.


173 posted on 02/14/2011 1:15:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: fwdude; wku man

Libertarianism is the kook ultra fringe anarchy wing of the Left.


174 posted on 02/14/2011 1:17:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Daveinyork

The military leaders said they didn’t want the repeal of DADT but the homosexual activists and their helpers shoved it down the militarys’ collective throats.


175 posted on 02/14/2011 1:24:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So your answer is yes?


176 posted on 02/14/2011 1:24:30 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: little jeremiah

No it isn’t. It’s at the heart of conservatism.


177 posted on 02/14/2011 1:25:33 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: little jeremiah

No it isn’t. It’s the heart of conservatism.


178 posted on 02/14/2011 1:25:43 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

Many states did outlaw sodomy until Huge Nanny State SCOTUS forced it on all the states.

How do you like that?


179 posted on 02/14/2011 1:26:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Jefferson was not a crafter of the Constitution, he was in France when it was “crafted”, and he was not in favor of it.


180 posted on 02/14/2011 1:27:24 PM PST by Daveinyork
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