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Chicago Sun-Times: HCUA Was 'Helmed by Sen. Joseph McCarthy'
NewsBusters ^ | 2/14/2011 | Mike Bates

Posted on 02/14/2011 9:19:14 AM PST by Mike Bates

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) isn't alone in having trouble understanding how the government is organized. In a Sunday article posted on the Chicago Sun-Times's Web site, staff reporter Mary Houlihan credits the late Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-WI) with running the House Committee on Un-American Activities. That would have been quite an accomplishment, given the fact McCarthy never served in the House of Representatives.

Houlihan writes of photographer Milton Rogovin, who died last month. After military service during World War II, Rogovin "organized a chapter of the optometrists’ union and served as librarian for the Communist Party of Buffalo."

"Then the inevitable happened. In October 1957, Rogovin was caught in the net cast by the House Un-American Activities Committee helmed by Sen. Joseph McCarthy. It was the waning days of the Communist witch hunt, and the experience would change Rogovin’s life."

If October, 1957 indeed represented the waning days of the Communist witch hunt, the situation was even worse for Joe McCarthy. He had died the previous May.

You'd think McCarthy's title of Senator might serve as a clue that he didn't chair a House Committee. Partially due to the mainstream media's eagerness to attach his name or “ism” to as many unsavory things as possible, misinformation abounds. And yet they still complain that Joe didn't get his facts right.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anticommunism; joemccarthy

1 posted on 02/14/2011 9:19:25 AM PST by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

I’m reading “Blacklisted by History” by M. Stanton Evans. The re-writing of history that has taken place regarding McCarthy is incredible. This book is an eye-opener.


2 posted on 02/14/2011 9:24:31 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Mike Bates

a senator chairing a house committee?


3 posted on 02/14/2011 9:27:22 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Mike Bates
There's nothing wrong with what Mary Houlihan wrote. At least per the standards of the Chicago Slum-Times.

Your IQ has to be below 70 to get hired.

4 posted on 02/14/2011 9:39:22 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: Mike Bates

They would be better off pinning it on Nixon. It’s true he was VP in 1957, but at least he was actually on the committee in the 40’s and his investigations is credited with busting one of their biggest gets, commie Alger Hiss. Which they still hate Nixon for to this day..


5 posted on 02/14/2011 9:41:06 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Mike Bates
And yet they still complain that Joe didn't get his facts right.

I can't count the number of anti-McCarthy rants I've stopped short with that simple fact. The actual history of that era has been deliberately and wildly distorted by pro-Communists.

I've even had some people tell me that their "uncle" or "father," etc. were "blacklisted" and called before the HCUA, then pilloried by McCarthy. They turn red-faced and sputter a lot when they're caught in such an obvious lie. McCarthy had absolutely nothing to do with Hollywood blacklisting or HCUA.

6 posted on 02/14/2011 9:41:27 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: gorush

Yep. In the last ten years or so, I have had to completely alter my outlook on many things, and the catalyst for it was, of all people, Ann Coulter. I read her books “Treason” and “Slander”, and her account of Joseph McCarthy is so diametrically opposed to what I have been taught, told by television and newspaper and read in many books.

I read “Witness”, and was appalled to see the same type of politics, used with the same tactics on the same type of people that are used by the Left today (and have been since then)

In particular, the thing that stuck out at me was the “Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?” exchange with Joseph Welch. That is like gospel, unassailable. When I heard her account, I thought “Okay, someone is flat out wrong here. They cannot both be right, all the historical accounts, papers, schoolbooks, etc and Ann Coulter. Someone had to be just wrong.

So, I went and found the transcripts to the Army-McCarthy hearings, and...lo and behold, Ann Coulter was spot on.

So I began reevaluating my stance and outlook on many things, especially this. I have read at least a dozen books from various sources, and one can only come away with the impression that not only was McCarthy right, he must have had intelligence (from Venona, possibly) being fed to him. He had to have something.

My impression of Truman has dramatically changed as well, in addition to my regard for Marshall. Truman was not in bed with the communists, but he took the actions he did to protect the Democrat party, NOT our country!

The fact that these nitwits think McCarthy was involved with HUAC doesn’t surprise me a single bit.


7 posted on 02/14/2011 9:44:21 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Bernard Marx

I bought Rumsfeld’s book (which sadly, I cannot return) and was appalled, angered and saddened to hear him in his book pile into McCarthy with the same BS I fully expect to hear from Liberals.

Then he came out with his pro-homosexual stand, and I just cannot express how disillusioned, demoralized and saddened that made me.


8 posted on 02/14/2011 9:46:50 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Mike Bates
"In October 1957, Rogovin was caught in the net cast by the House Un-American Activities Committee helmed by Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

Joseph Raymond "Joe" McCarthy (November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957)

Wow I didn't know a dead Senator helmed a house committee! You learn something new every day reading the Chicago Sun-Times!
9 posted on 02/14/2011 9:47:42 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: gorush

“Blacklisted by History” was a stellar book. Extraordinary in its depth.


10 posted on 02/14/2011 9:48:05 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: gorush

An excellent read. Stan Evans has done an outstanding job of trying to correct misconceptions about McCarthy for many, many years.


11 posted on 02/14/2011 9:51:35 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Condor51

The Sun-Times has standards? Who’da thunk it?


12 posted on 02/14/2011 9:53:21 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: rlmorel
I have read at least a dozen books from various sources, and one can only come away with the impression that not only was McCarthy right, he must have had intelligence (from Venona, possibly) being fed to him.

I hope one of the books you read was M. Stanton Evans' "Blacklisted by History." Meticulously researched and documented, it turns the popular "history" of the McCarthy era on its head. It's frightening to learn how many presumably "official" archival documents have been destroyed.

I agree with you that McCarthy probably had solid evidence of Communist penetration of both the State Department and White House from some source, possibly VENONA.

13 posted on 02/14/2011 9:55:33 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
One of my more amusing incidents regarding McCarthy was a friend who told me he could never forgive Joe for what he did to Bert Parks. Bert, not Larry.

Where do you even begin?

14 posted on 02/14/2011 9:55:58 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: gorush

Sounds like a good read!


15 posted on 02/14/2011 9:56:24 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: rlmorel

Thanks! I just added that to my Borders wish list in eBook format.


16 posted on 02/14/2011 9:57:07 AM PST by bcsco
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To: Mike Bates

Agreed. I consider myself fairly well informed about McCarthy and the goings-on, and there was a wealth of knowledge in his book that filled in quite a few blanks for me.


17 posted on 02/14/2011 9:58:16 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: bcsco

You won’t be sorry...it is definitive. I may get the eBook version myself so I can annotate it.


18 posted on 02/14/2011 10:01:09 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

In December 1952, at the behest of his father, Robert F. Kennedy was appointed by Republican Senator Joe McCarthy as assistant counsel of the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. He resigned in July 1953, but “retained a fondness for McCarthy.”

So, let’s see. Nixon was on the House committee that located and stopped a bunch of real communists who had infiltrated the government. And Robert Kennedy was an aide to Senator Joe McCarthy.


19 posted on 02/14/2011 10:03:31 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Mike Bates
*** The Sun-Times has standards? Who’da thunk it? ***

Oh yes, they definitely have standards. They're just extremely LOW.
That's why the likes of Mary Mitchell, Jesse Jackson and this History Illiterate Ditz writes for them.

And why we always called them the 'Slum-Times'. It was a joke of ours that they never printed any three syllable words as their readers couldn't understand them.(1)

(1) This was back in the day when the Chicago Tribune was a Conservative Newspaper. And, it was the only paper 'allowed' in our house.

20 posted on 02/14/2011 10:04:29 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: Mike Bates

In the Senate you had the McCarran committee that was similar to HUAC. McCarran as in the Las Vegas airport named after him. Nevada was ultra conservative. Now they elect Harry Reid


21 posted on 02/14/2011 10:04:52 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: Mike Bates

>> “If October, 1957 indeed represented the waning days of the Communist witch hunt, the situation was even worse for Joe McCarthy. He had died the previous May.” <<

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Unfortunately!

Its a shame that he couldn’t have lived to see his work vindicated so completely.


22 posted on 02/14/2011 10:05:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Mike Bates

Boy, how does one even argue with that?

Another lie. I really thought Ann Coulter stated it best in her own pithy way when she said that if liberals were to be believed, one could not walk down the street during McCarthy’s Reign of Terror for fear of being killed by despondent liberals plummeting from office buildings.


23 posted on 02/14/2011 10:06:06 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: rlmorel
I bought Rumsfeld’s book (which sadly, I cannot return) and was appalled, angered and saddened to hear him in his book pile into McCarthy with the same BS I fully expect to hear from Liberals.

Then he came out with his pro-homosexual stand, and I just cannot express how disillusioned, demoralized and saddened that made me.

Thanks for saving me some money!

24 posted on 02/14/2011 10:06:27 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Mike Bates

I have always wondered how a Senator could be responsible for HUAC. More lies from the Left. It reminds me of a time when a liberal informed me that George Wallace was a Republican. Or another time when a liberal explained to me that all the Supreme Court Justices who decided the Dred Scott case were appointed by Republican Presidents. Or the time when . . .


25 posted on 02/14/2011 10:07:40 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: editor-surveyor

I feel that McCarthy was an American hero who sacrificed his reputation, his health, and eventually, his life to bring this issue to the forefront where it belonged.

I can only hope that someday someone in power has the courage and wherewithal to make it happen.


26 posted on 02/14/2011 10:08:23 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Condor51
There's nothing wrong with what Mary Houlihan wrote. At least per the standards of the Chicago Slum-Times.

Is that like the "fake but accurate" standard?

27 posted on 02/14/2011 10:11:04 AM PST by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average. Politicians come from the other half.)
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To: Bernard Marx

Absolutely. His book solidified my feelings about the Truman administration. As I said in my previous post, I don’t for a second think that Truman was at all sympathetic to communism (like I DO believe that Marshall was) but I firmly believe Truman put the interests of the Democratic Party FAR above the interests of the American people and our national security.

I simply cannot view Truman in the same light anymore. It is a shame.


28 posted on 02/14/2011 10:11:40 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Mike Bates

Plus, they got the name of the committee wrong.

HUAC, not HCUA.


29 posted on 02/14/2011 10:11:43 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a War, for a lead role in a cage?")
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To: Bernard Marx
"McCarthy had absolutely nothing to do with Hollywood blacklisting or HCUA."

Actually, HUAC had nothing to do with Hollywood blacklisting. Hollywood censured itself when the hollywood big wigs thought they had a commie in their presense. But we never hear about that from today's leftist elitists...
30 posted on 02/14/2011 10:12:23 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Uncle Miltie

I could be wrong, but I think at one point it was referred to as HCUA, but was changed to HUAC (probably rolled off the toungue easier for journalists...)

But I could be mistaken.


31 posted on 02/14/2011 10:13:15 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: rlmorel

Congress held hearing after WWII, which were public record, McCarthy was credited with much that he had nothing to do with. The Congressional record was open to any citizen o communist for the asking.


32 posted on 02/14/2011 10:16:56 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: nina0113

nina0113, I am heartbroken over that. I haven’t felt this way since 11/4/2008. Are there no true conservatives in politics?


33 posted on 02/14/2011 10:17:30 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Moonman62
*** Is that like the "fake but accurate" standard?***

Yeah, pretty much the same thing.
Except at the Slum-Times accuracy isn't required.

34 posted on 02/14/2011 10:30:10 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Congressman. But I repeat myself. [Mark Twain])
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To: Mike Bates

Liberals in their eagerness to condemn McCarthy for every sin imaginable, can’t get basic facts straight.

Such as the differences between the House Of Representatives and the Senate!


35 posted on 02/14/2011 10:51:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: gorush

klank for later.....


36 posted on 02/14/2011 11:01:02 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Uncle Miltie
Plus, they got the name of the committee wrong. HUAC, not HCUA.

Sorry. It was officially the House Committee on Un-American Activities: HCUA. HUAC was the popularized version.

37 posted on 02/14/2011 11:23:58 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: dennisw
Now they elect Harry Reid

(Reaching for my industrial strength Pepto. . .)

38 posted on 02/14/2011 12:23:00 PM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

McCarthy was wrong. There was a hell of lot more than 25 communists in Government.


39 posted on 02/14/2011 12:30:13 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Bernard Marx
HUAC was the popularized version.

I've read that "HUAC" was preferred by liberals, who liked the inherent suggestion that the committee itself was un-American.

40 posted on 02/14/2011 12:32:07 PM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: rlmorel
one can only come away with the impression that not only was McCarthy right, he must have had intelligence (from Venona, possibly) being fed to him.

In Evans's book (Chapter 23, "The Man Who Knew Too Much," he speculates on evidence that McCarthy's source was probably someone in the State Department. Another may have been Sen. McCarran himself, who had access to FBI reports and other documents as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

While publicly condemning McCarthy as having no credibility, the Truman Administration was panicked by his revelations and began a vigorous hunt for the leaker.

Evans concluded the chapter: "Throughout, the White House, Department of Justice, and other agencies of the Truman government showed far more interest in tracking down McCarthy's sources than in uncovering alleged Soviet agents or Communist Party members, or in addressing the lax security standards deplored by the L.R.B. [Loyalty Review Board of the State Department]. In the view of the Truman administration, the problem with Joe McCarthy was not that he didn't have inside sources of loyalty data but that he all too obviously did."

41 posted on 02/14/2011 7:30:40 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

Exactly...the Truman administration is like the person who is sorry they got caught doing something, not sorry they did it.


42 posted on 02/15/2011 3:24:15 AM PST by rlmorel (Now I have to change this tagline: "Weakness is provocative." Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Mike Bates

Bookmark for later


43 posted on 02/15/2011 3:50:04 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: rlmorel
My interpretation is that Truman, being a lock-step Democrat machine politician, put partisan politics ahead of the national interest. McCarthy's revelations were a huge embarrassment to Democrats.

You have to remember the Soviets were allegedly our "allies" during WWII. Stalin was presented to the American people as a smiling, kindly pipe-smoking uncle figure. "Wild Bill" Donovan, head of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS, later to become the CIA), actively recruited Soviets as American spies, naively not seeing them as a security threat.

When the heat on Communist spying began to rise, many of them quietly transferred to other branches of government. The State Department and the International Monetary Fund were among the favorite spots for them to mole in.

44 posted on 02/15/2011 9:59:17 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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