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Gates, Rumsfeld Sued Over U.S. Military's Rape Epidemic
Yahoo News ^ | 15Feb2011 | Jesse Ellison

Posted on 02/15/2011 8:17:11 AM PST by ConorMacNessa

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If substantiated, sad commentary on our Armed Forces.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
1 posted on 02/15/2011 8:17:13 AM PST by ConorMacNessa
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To: ConorMacNessa

Doesn’t sound feasible. Doesn’t meet the smell test. Please post the photo of the “Not this S*it Again!” guy. Check her background. A subversive? Obama kool-aid drinker? Code Pink? Some one is behind this.


2 posted on 02/15/2011 8:21:20 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Is this a news article? It reads like an introduction to Womyn’s Studies 101.


3 posted on 02/15/2011 8:21:58 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Doc Savage
Don't have that photo - hope you're right, DS.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
4 posted on 02/15/2011 8:23:04 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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>> Jesse Ellison is a writer and editor for Newsweek, covering society, culture, business, and health. She also co-authors the Equality Myth


5 posted on 02/15/2011 8:23:39 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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"But women aren’t the only victims; statistics from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs indicate that more than half of those who screen positive for Military Sexual Trauma are men."

You ain't seen nuttin' yet.

6 posted on 02/15/2011 8:24:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Did not know that - thanks for the info!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
7 posted on 02/15/2011 8:24:56 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I had a friend in the Army who was raped by an NCO of another racial persuasion.

She reported the “episode” and was advised by her CO that she should not have dated the fellow in the first place.

Hello, she was raped and she did not even know the pig beforehand.

That was more than 30 years ago.

The Dykes in the barracks near my Kaserne were tormenting normal Army girls regularly back in those days as well.

Different friends, different stories.

From here, the Military has been remiss. I was hoping that things changed since then.

8 posted on 02/15/2011 8:25:15 AM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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"sad commentary on our Armed Forces"

Yep. They build up warrior men, then expect them to be docile little puppies around women. Insane.
9 posted on 02/15/2011 8:25:26 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge, MA grad student. Any potential conservative Christian FReepmail-FRiends out there?)
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To: ConorMacNessa

DailyBeast...


10 posted on 02/15/2011 8:25:47 AM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Soldiers are taught tro kill and create mayhem. Uniformed ladies are fair game for the troops, idiotic attempts to delete sex from male libinal forces notwithstanding.


11 posted on 02/15/2011 8:25:55 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

I bet she is suing for Disability because of “trauma”.


12 posted on 02/15/2011 8:26:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Gosh. I was told by the MSM that this social experiment was working swimmingly. Gays being injected will turn out even better? Looks like a segment of the economy will be getting a boost.


13 posted on 02/15/2011 8:27:04 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Just wait till the homos lawyer up.


14 posted on 02/15/2011 8:27:04 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: Doc Savage

It could also be a failure of the chain of command. It does happen. But the goal is to locate and remove those people, and the Army has a few means by which to do it. None of them involve a civil suit. So my main question is, did she go through chain of command, IG and congressional? If not, then she’s on an ideological mission, not trying to solve the actual problem.


15 posted on 02/15/2011 8:28:19 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Radix

With DADT going away, the gays will take over the JAG offices.


16 posted on 02/15/2011 8:30:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Louis Foxwell
“Uniformed ladies are fair game for the troops...”

WTF??!!

17 posted on 02/15/2011 8:30:10 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

The homos are going to be able to get away with nearly anything they want to,
because any charges brought against them will be counter-charged with “harassment”.


18 posted on 02/15/2011 8:30:29 AM PST by MrB (Tagline suspended for important announcement on my home page. Click my handle.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

It may be the straights that need to “lawyer up”.............


19 posted on 02/15/2011 8:31:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“Uniformed ladies are fair game for the troops”

Complete breakdown in military discipline.

Anyway, the problem isn’t usually the “warriors”, it’s the desk jockeys. Front-line troops don’t usually have women under their command.


20 posted on 02/15/2011 8:31:34 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

The timing is suspicious. Obama tanking? Lets create hundreds of distractions.


21 posted on 02/15/2011 8:31:40 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: ConorMacNessa

Having been a woman in a so-called “man’s” business for most of my hot-looking years, it certainly passes the smell test for me. I was manhandled in supply closets, under the table at business meetings in front of my boss, in elevators. One of my bosses (from a Fortune 500 corporation) actually drove 40 miles to show up at my doorstep and explain that his wife was out of town and he knew that I wanted him. The only way I could get rid of him was to say, “Please, no birth control — I want to have your baby!” He was out of there in a flash. He refused to promote me unless I went “with” him on a business trip. That’s when I left and started my own business, which I ran on my own terms. But successful self-employment is infinitessimally harder than corporate employment— you’re never not working — and my health suffered accordingly. Thanks so much, pigs.


22 posted on 02/15/2011 8:32:44 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Thank you Foxwell and Christian Engineer Max,

the soldier’s world is not a place women should be and that goes quadruple for combat situations.

I speak as a 10-year Air Force vet who had plenty of her share of “sexual assault” stuff. But I was never stupid enough to report it as it wasn’t worth the bother and I understood where I was. Same stuff happened outside the military - you have to, as a female, be WARE of males and conduct yourself with care and vigilance.


23 posted on 02/15/2011 8:33:41 AM PST by marychesnutfan
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I’ve heard allegations of rape threat by lesbians on straight women. Maybe they should address those at the same time.


24 posted on 02/15/2011 8:34:04 AM PST by Eva
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To: ConorMacNessa

Give me a break


25 posted on 02/15/2011 8:35:37 AM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: ConorMacNessa
It;s hard to have faith in our Country when this kind of stuff 'goes down'. Will Obama be sued when 'Gay on Gay' rape occurs - or has already occurred?

The biggest hate crime against America is that perped by the Left and their agenda by every modality they use to push it, shove it, down collective America's throat.

26 posted on 02/15/2011 8:37:10 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: Albion Wilde

Sorry for your trouble but your ‘smell test’ doesn’t relate to this. You guys see a headline and jump right in on her side. Hell, who files a lawsuit against a guy who JUST launched his book? Plus Gates was Bush. Fine, Identify the guy who raped you, identify the guys who molested you and have them arrested. Press a criminal suit, not a civil action. How about waiting to see further proof?


27 posted on 02/15/2011 8:38:02 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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Friend of mine in the armed forces told me that many of the
woman soldiers were doing “tricks” for men soldiers...he told
me that’s how they upped their pay..

I would guess that rape,prostitution,”brown nosing”(in the businees
sense) will always occur(not 100%) when men are with the ladies for more
than a few days...isn’t that why they were segregated in
the first place?


28 posted on 02/15/2011 8:38:02 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

The Equality Myth???????????? And you guys are buying this crap???? FemiNazi’s!


29 posted on 02/15/2011 8:40:28 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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Congress woman Patsy Shroeder redux...


30 posted on 02/15/2011 8:41:25 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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They forgot to release this article yesterday, on Valentine’s Day. </sarc>


31 posted on 02/15/2011 8:42:45 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
Yep. They build up warrior men, then expect them to be docile little puppies around women. Insane.

The warrior ethic needs to be a spiritual thing in addition to a mechanical thing. I think most services do a pretty good job of instilling a sense of honor in our warriors, but it's something that can always use more attention.

That said, psychopaths exist in all parts of society and some of them get into the military. It'll always happen.

And *that* said... there is a price to pay for having women in the military in the first place. Problems like this were predicted.

32 posted on 02/15/2011 8:45:00 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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Rape epidemic?

This is false, of course.

Crimes happen all over. But the only "rape epidemic" that I know of is in prisons.

This seems like a volley of false and exaggerated charges for the sole purpose of undermining the morale and harmony among our men and women in the military.

Notwithstanding a predictable level of criminal behavior in any segment of society, I believe that our the military takes sexual discrimination and sexual harassment and criminal sexual behavior quite seriously.

(Ask this proud Dad of two daughters in uniform.)

.

33 posted on 02/15/2011 8:45:03 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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I see that you didn’t read the article, about evidence being suppressed or “lost”, and the chain of command regarding such allegations. When it comes to “proof” or evidence, an enlisted person just can’t go out and call the LEO’s to start investigating on a military base when they have been raped.

As for Rumsfeld’s book tour or the reasoning of the law suit, it was probably her lawyer’s idea to time it this way, and I can’t say I blame him. I don’t think the suit will succeed in troubling Rumsfeld or Gates; but I do think it will shed light in an area that very much needs airing out, especially with the military playground for gays and lesbians all set to open up.

By the way, I have always been against the idea of women serving alongside men in the army, firefighters, police and/or the clergy. This is only one of the reasons.


34 posted on 02/15/2011 8:45:32 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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Wheres the discipline? In WWII there would be courts martial
and the noose for rape.

There is no excuse for this. Warrior ethic, my foot. These are not warriors picking on their female counterparts. These are horndogs with no sense of honor.

Sex between soldiers was prohibited by regs, or so I thought. Whats wrong with the officers these days?


35 posted on 02/15/2011 8:55:15 AM PST by rahbert
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Repeal DADT, wait till May-June, SHTF!!!!


36 posted on 02/15/2011 8:55:28 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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But successful self-employment is infinitessimally harder than corporate employment

The word is "infinitesimally", and it doesn't mean "a whole lot more"; it means "practically no more at all."

37 posted on 02/15/2011 8:56:31 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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But successful self-employment is infinitessimally harder than corporate employment...

Huh?

38 posted on 02/15/2011 9:01:02 AM PST by TankerKC (Confucius say, he who rushes to vote on bill before reading, might forget severability clause.)
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Yessiree, it’s Obama campaign season...


39 posted on 02/15/2011 9:05:04 AM PST by Freddd
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To: AppyPappy

Fortunately, for the time being anyhow, women are still excluded from “Combat Arms” outfits.

It is also the case that the larger percentage of women and “minorities” spend an inordinate time in the rear with gear when compared to white males of western European extraction.

Well that was so the last time that I checked.

Been a while.


40 posted on 02/15/2011 9:06:51 AM PST by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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Uniformed ladies are fair game for the troops,

Are you serious? Really?

Think that attitude would fly in any corporation?

What an idiot.

41 posted on 02/15/2011 9:13:04 AM PST by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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Really, supporting the rape of servicewomen? That is contemptible.


42 posted on 02/15/2011 9:15:14 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Imagine the environment in a unit with homo commanders & sncos.

Someone else said it - we ain’t seen nothing yet...


43 posted on 02/15/2011 9:19:07 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: ConorMacNessa

There is, of course, a fairly easy way to fix this. It’s just not politically correct, so won’t be done.


44 posted on 02/15/2011 9:23:46 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

If men took pride in being a “gentleman”, and women took pride in being a “lady”, there would be a lot less of this stuff going on.


45 posted on 02/15/2011 9:25:50 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Just another argument to return to a traditional, non-socially-engineered military - strictly honorable men under arms. And those rapists and abusers should be drummed out. If that’s how they treat American woman, they shouldn’t be anywhere near foreign civilian women in a war who at some point might be dependent on American forces.


46 posted on 02/15/2011 9:34:39 AM PST by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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Indeed “Can’t pass the smell test”.She had a gun and was trained how to fight and she didn’t make out a report about it?


47 posted on 02/15/2011 9:40:01 AM PST by Vaduz
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I’ve heard allegations of rape threat by lesbians on straight women.

I guess I'm just naive, but I just can't understand the... uh, mechanics of a lesbian rape of another women. Is there.. uh, extra hardware involved?

48 posted on 02/15/2011 9:57:21 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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Wheres the discipline? In WWII there would be courts martial and the noose for rape.
There is no excuse for this. Warrior ethic, my foot. These are not warriors picking on their female counterparts. These are horndogs with no sense of honor.


Well said. All the justifies and apologists on this thread make me sick. A soldier that can't treat a comrade with respect needs a NOOSE, not an excuse.
49 posted on 02/15/2011 10:03:44 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: ConorMacNessa

If our government, and therefore our military, was not controlled by Globalist Banksters and Cultural Marxists women would not be in the military and rape would be a capital crime. As it is now our military is used as a social engineering experiment and to protect the borders of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq while our own borders are wide open allowing illegal aliens to kill more Americans then any Muslim terrorist ever did.


50 posted on 02/15/2011 10:11:18 AM PST by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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