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TUESDAY MIDDAY--- BREAKING NEWS ON OBAMACARE REPEAL:
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Posted on 02/15/2011 11:20:06 AM PST by Outlaw Woman

TUESDAY MIDDAY--- BREAKING NEWS ON OBAMACARE REPEAL:

The House Rules Committee has rejected Rep. Steve King's proposal to FULLY DEFUND ObamaCare, failing to agree to "protect" King's amendment when it comes to the House floor.

Bottom line -- Republicans on the Rules Committee refused to play hardball to fully defund ObamaCare. By doing so, they are allowing Pelosi's "mandatory" self-funding provisions -- which many say are unconscionable if not unconstitutional -- to stand! This will force this Congress to approve most of the funding for ObamaCare.

FoxNews says King's provision would "cripple all government operations devoted to executing the health law."

DEBATE BEGINS THIS AFTERNOON.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; bhohealthcare; defraud; defund; healthcare; obamacare; repeal; vinson
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To: Outlaw Woman

Some Republicans do not want their gravy train to end. 2012 means we really should make sure we retire the RINOS and put solid conservatives in. They will be fighting us every step of the way; but it has to be done.


101 posted on 02/15/2011 12:37:18 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: little jeremiah

See post 53.


102 posted on 02/15/2011 12:39:33 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Hodar
Sometimes you just gotta flush twice.

We can flush all we want but unless the Republican Party establishment is destroyed, don't expect any conservative movement or agenda to survive intact.

103 posted on 02/15/2011 12:39:44 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: Soothesayer9

Hmmm ... perhaps dueling being made illegal in the 1800's was a bit premature.


104 posted on 02/15/2011 12:39:59 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Outlaw Woman

Rush was talking about this today on his show.... Basically he is saying that Republicans are trying to use the rules committee to say we will play fair unlike the Democrats did when they were in charge....

I don’t see how we can continue to waste money on a program that is clearly unconstitutional in its entirety as expressed by a Federal Judge.


105 posted on 02/15/2011 12:40:50 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: americanophile

So what? The GOP can make the House rules. Obamacare was brought in with parliamentary tricks, it could be destroyed the same way. Wake up, the GOP is trying to keep us on the plantation as well.


106 posted on 02/15/2011 12:41:19 PM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Thanks.

So I take it they must pass a special bill to defund it? Certainly congress has that power... better yet, hold a vote to eliminate that rule. What does that buy is, or is too late to change rules this session?

A bigger problem is that Boehner promised MANY times last year to defund it if Republicans won the house. That looks bad.


107 posted on 02/15/2011 12:41:19 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: EBH

Thank you for being sensible, unlike the alarmist who posted this thread.

BREAKING NEWS!!! A House Rules Committee Tries to Trump Rule of Law!


108 posted on 02/15/2011 12:42:57 PM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: paulycy

I wish I had a good 18 day to go protest in DC but I don’t and will probably find many able to dedicate this amount of time and effort however, Twitter and Facebook seems like the right places to get a government protest movement started....


109 posted on 02/15/2011 12:44:05 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: Typical_Whitey
I wish I had a good 18 day to go protest in DC

The idea we're playing with is taking a couple hours and going downtown to your own city hall on the same day as millions of others. That would send quite a message. If we could get the message out on facebook and twitter so much the better.

110 posted on 02/15/2011 12:46:48 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: WMarshal

Then the effing republican party idiots wonder why we don’t contribute to them any more. We need to clean house BIG TIME in Washington. No more democrats. No more RINOs. All of them have to go. There are but a handfull of principaled conservatives out there. The rest need to be unemployed quickly.


111 posted on 02/15/2011 12:51:28 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

This is why primaries REALLY matter.


112 posted on 02/15/2011 12:52:27 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: paulycy

I think I know why Boner cries all the time - he’s got his head so far up his a%% that the smell is bringing a tear to his eye.


113 posted on 02/15/2011 12:53:55 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

John Boehner, if Your reading this, Get a Backbone and ptu your foot up this Rules Committee’s Butts! This is Outrageous! DEFUND THE WHOLE UNCONSTITUTIONAL ABORTION TOTALLY AND RIGHT NOW!!!!


114 posted on 02/15/2011 12:53:59 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: americanophile

I just phone Rep. Dreier’s office and told the young lady who answered that I am disappointed and that being from CA, I would remember his vote and would not vote for him for statewide office. I also said that if he didn’t offer an alternative to the Democrats there was no reason for him to be in office or for the Republican Party to exist.


115 posted on 02/15/2011 12:56:10 PM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: B Knotts; All

” What a bunch of bums. “

What a bunch of TRAITOROUS WHORES

There....fixed it.


116 posted on 02/15/2011 12:57:35 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: muawiyah
Any Republican who could stomach working in the same room as the wholly execrable Louise Slaughter probably shouldn't be trusted to be in Congress.

Lousy Haughty was horrible when she was my congressturd. She was horribly, wholly arrogant. A real piece of sh**, that one.

117 posted on 02/15/2011 12:59:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Typical_Whitey
"Basically he (Limbaugh) is saying that Republicans are trying to use the rules committee to say we will play fair unlike the Democrats did when they were in charge..."

Basically, Rush has been carrying water for the Republican Party all his life and it's hard for him to put the bucket down. Not long ago he had Karl Rove sitting in for him on a day off. Karl Rove!!! The 'moderate' who led Bush and the Republican Party to hell in a handbasket, and the moron who scorns the Tea Party. Hey, I like Rush, but he's been a Republican too long, and as brilliant as he is, he's a tad naive about the Republicans. He wants to believe the best, which blinds him from the truth. MOST of the Republicans are indeed RINOS, (moderates), while Rush thinks it's just a few. My bet is that in the near future the Tea Party will actually become a HIGHLY legitimate Third Party, and the Republican Party and Karl Marx Rove will become the non-entities. We'll see where Rush goes.

118 posted on 02/15/2011 1:01:59 PM PST by jiminycricket000
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To: Gaffer

I share your frustration. This is the problem with settling for a RINO instead of fighting for a real conservative.

Our only hope is for the us in the Tea Party to completely take over the GOP. The ones there now pay us lip service and then shoot us in the back. Dealing with Dims instead of RINOs is almost easier — at least then you know the enemy that is in front of you, instead of behind you with a knife.

These people need to hear from us NOW.

And whenever the RNC sends me letters begging for $$$, I send them a letter explaining exactly why I am not going to give them one single penny, and where my campaign dollars are going (to real conservatives’ campaigns directly).


119 posted on 02/15/2011 1:02:25 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: itssme

I agree that we must hold Republicans accountable, but I detest your ad hominem attacks on Speaker Boehner.... How do you fall for those DU and Daily Kos talking points? or are you just Trolling FR? In any event maybe offering some clear points on battling the entire entitlement nightmare that Liberals have created in the USA.


120 posted on 02/15/2011 1:02:47 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: EBH
How can a “Rules” committee trump the RULE OF LAW? ANSWER: They can’t. The Health Care Law has been ruled by the court to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Also please explain to any of us how the 111th Piglosi Congress can "bind" future Congresses to spend X amount of money? THIS IS A FARCE - GOP GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND LEARN HOW TO TIE YOUR SHOE LACES.
121 posted on 02/15/2011 1:04:51 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Typical_Whitey
I wish I had a good 18 day to go protest in DC...

We need more than a flippin' peaceful protest. Let's take a page out of the 'rat's rule book and next time we go to Washington, let's start breaking things. And people if they get in our way. It's time to raise things up a notch. I'm sick of this sh#t!

122 posted on 02/15/2011 1:07:05 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: itssme
He is an alcoholic, who cries.

What evidence do you have for these personal attacks? I know I've never seen any credible evidence that this is the case.

Free Republic is not a place to pass false hyper-partisan, personal gossip or disgusting liberal talking points.

Put up some evidence or STFU.

123 posted on 02/15/2011 1:07:34 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: varon

As I see it, we’re between a rock and a hard place. If we jettison the GOP and vote for a third party candidate in 2012, Obama wins a second term. Simple as that.

If Sarah wins the nomination, of course, we can all vote Republican with a clear conscience.


124 posted on 02/15/2011 1:07:59 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: mo
Its call the RinoCrat Oligarchy for a reason...be very wary...

As Gerald Celente of Trends Research Institute often says, and I agree, "We don't have a two party system. What we have is a two-headed one party system that is corrupt."

125 posted on 02/15/2011 1:08:36 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Witty saying TBD.)
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To: thesearethetimes...

Thanks, will check it now.


126 posted on 02/15/2011 1:09:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: VictoryGal
...And whenever the RNC sends me letters begging for $$$, I send them a letter explaining exactly why I am not going to give them one single penny....

I took a different route. I said send me the bill, yes - I waited for the supervisor and confirmed...blah blah blah...will pay quickly....blah blah blah...when it came I tore it up and trashed it before I even got back to the house from the mailbox...they lie to me - I lied to them.

127 posted on 02/15/2011 1:09:54 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: paulycy

Well, he DOES tend to cry, far more often for comfort.


128 posted on 02/15/2011 1:10:15 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: paulycy
What evidence do you have for these personal attacks?

We don't need no stinkin' evidence. All we need is emotion and we gots lots of emotion to bash everyone that doesn't say and think exactly like us for they are all RINOs and must be kicked out of office and strung up on a pole and spend eternity in that hot place at the center of the earth.

129 posted on 02/15/2011 1:10:44 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Outlaw Woman

Nothing has changed with the old back room Republican set.

November 2010 meant nothing at all to those bastards.


130 posted on 02/15/2011 1:12:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...btoncerning)
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To: OB1kNOb
Gerald Celente

He is just playing the blame game. Every time he misses another forcast, he says the government did something that he didn't forcast throwing his forcast off.

131 posted on 02/15/2011 1:13:07 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Outlaw Woman

Did any of us expect anything different, honestly, we’re doomed.


132 posted on 02/15/2011 1:13:11 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Outlaw Woman
the people got it right in Egypt. maybe some day the Americans will wake up
133 posted on 02/15/2011 1:15:35 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: jiminycricket000

What we really need is a Conservative leader out front on a daily basis countering Obama and explaining to the American moderates that exactly what caused this debt mess is the Liberal Marxist model of entitlements, Obamacare being the most recent, this coupled with an unfair tax code that allows lower income earners to be bought off with what amount to political bribes offered by Democrats and that these bribes which take the forms of taxes and over regulation are always passed down from the rich onto the backs of the great Middle Class in this country in the form of consumer cost increases and excise taxes.

But where is the next great Conservative communicator?


134 posted on 02/15/2011 1:17:43 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: varon
We can flush all we want but unless the Republican Party establishment is destroyed, don't expect any conservative movement or agenda to survive intact

I don't know about your state, but here in Utah - we flushed the Republican establishment out. We replaced RINOs with Conservatives - next flush will be Hatch and his cronies.

135 posted on 02/15/2011 1:20:54 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Outlaw Woman
the repubs have asserted that they ‘will not break the rules’.

Even though the entire thing has been tossed out by a judge as unconstitutional. This ruling is their risk free way out of the entire mess.

I'm afraid there's more at play here than repubs simply standing by the rules.

136 posted on 02/15/2011 1:22:32 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Outlaw Woman

Egypt has shown us the way! It’s time to roll out our community organizers and hit the streets!


137 posted on 02/15/2011 1:23:52 PM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: Deo volente
Well, he DOES tend to cry, far more often for comfort.

That does NOT make him an alcoholic.

Fer cryin' out loud...

138 posted on 02/15/2011 1:24:11 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: SeeSac; paulycy

Wow such harsh ad hominem attacks on RINO’s..... So if you feel this passionatley about RINO’s.... How do you feel about the Marxists that actually caused all this mess in the first place? If you remember correctly, this group of RINO’s at least stood firm with the true Conservatives against the Obama agenda prior to the NOV 2nd thumping. Sure we should hold them accountable but save your name calling for the idiot Progressives that are intentionally destroying this great nation.


139 posted on 02/15/2011 1:24:31 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: matthew fuller

That should be the new Tea Party call to action Conservative community organizers.....

Tea Party Powers activate....


140 posted on 02/15/2011 1:26:34 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: americanophile

We have GOT to stop this “shoot first, ask questions later” mentality.

It’s totally understandable (and I am guilty myself) but we’re just blowing up at everything these days.

Once you see the facts, it isn’t as bad as it seems. Sure, we have to keep the heat on (and slowly turn it up) but let’s save our fury for where it’s needed.


141 posted on 02/15/2011 1:28:20 PM PST by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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To: Typical_Whitey; Admin Moderator

I owe you any apology, Typical_Whitey.

I confused you with someone else on this thread.

I am sorry for my post.


143 posted on 02/15/2011 1:31:53 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Soothesayer9

I honestly thought (in hinesite) that the U.S. supreme court injustices that did roe v. wade should be dragged out and shot as wannabe tyrants.

Now I’m convinced they should simply be ignored and the Federal agents that attempt to enforce their edict should be arrested and if at last necessary shot by State forces like any common criminal resisting arrest with arms while attempting thief, kidnapping, or blackmail.


144 posted on 02/15/2011 1:37:40 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Outlaw Woman

So now we are going to be forced to fund an unconstitutional bill?


145 posted on 02/15/2011 1:40:40 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

LOL. Does that mean the taxpayers get their money back if the Supreme Court upholds the lower court ruling?


146 posted on 02/15/2011 1:45:20 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

http://www.facebook.com/johnboehner

This is Boehner’s FB page


147 posted on 02/15/2011 1:46:06 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: americanophile; All

During the current discussion on the floor, each representative begins his remarks with, “I move to strike the last word.” Does anyone know what that means in this context?


148 posted on 02/15/2011 1:46:58 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Got to remember while the new house may clam to be on our side they are Federal offices. We are talking about Their power here just as we are also talking about OUR liberty...

At the end of the day politicians are by nature predisposes to choose their power over our liberty.


149 posted on 02/15/2011 1:48:07 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Outlaw Woman

Sounds like we need a Million Man Tea Party Rally in Washington.


150 posted on 02/15/2011 2:01:38 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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