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TUESDAY MIDDAY--- BREAKING NEWS ON OBAMACARE REPEAL:
Grassfire Nation ^ | 02/15/11 | Grassfire Nation via email subscription

Posted on 02/15/2011 11:20:06 AM PST by Outlaw Woman

TUESDAY MIDDAY--- BREAKING NEWS ON OBAMACARE REPEAL:

The House Rules Committee has rejected Rep. Steve King's proposal to FULLY DEFUND ObamaCare, failing to agree to "protect" King's amendment when it comes to the House floor.

Bottom line -- Republicans on the Rules Committee refused to play hardball to fully defund ObamaCare. By doing so, they are allowing Pelosi's "mandatory" self-funding provisions -- which many say are unconscionable if not unconstitutional -- to stand! This will force this Congress to approve most of the funding for ObamaCare.

FoxNews says King's provision would "cripple all government operations devoted to executing the health law."

DEBATE BEGINS THIS AFTERNOON.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; bhohealthcare; defraud; defund; healthcare; obamacare; repeal; vinson
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To: paulycy
I'm certainly not implying he's an alcoholic. He simply cries too often in public for a Speaker of the House. Just my opinion, but it's unseemly, given the fight we're in at the moment, in what really is shaping up to be a last-ditch effort to save our Republic. The stakes are THAT high. We need less tears and more steel from our leaders at this critical time.
151 posted on 02/15/2011 2:06:05 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: SVTCobra03

I’m not sure that just a ‘march’ is going to do the trick.


152 posted on 02/15/2011 2:09:18 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Deo volente
I'm certainly not implying he's an alcoholic.

OK then, no problem. I see why people don't want a cryer.

Personally I don't care if he soaks the carpets of the House as long as he gets the job done. But every day I'm doubting more and more that he can get the job done. That could make us all cry.

153 posted on 02/15/2011 2:11:10 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: skeeter

where do we sign up for the revolution......Egypt comes to Amerika!!


154 posted on 02/15/2011 2:18:59 PM PST by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: sickoflibs
I still dont understand the issue here, why they cant defund it.

The bigger issue here is ... THEY HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO FUND IT. THE COURT RULED THE LAW UNCONSTITUTIONAL. We have every Right, right now to go APE on them. They are breaking the law.

155 posted on 02/15/2011 2:22:23 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Outlaw Woman; SVTCobra03

What do you think of an idea where we take one day and instead of converging on DC, everyone across the country converges on their own town center or city hall or whatever they have?

There would be millions of people that could participate at the same time and we could really show zer0 how much support OUR side has.


156 posted on 02/15/2011 2:24:12 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Hodar

“Sometimes you just gotta flush twice.”

You got that right. They are not quick learners.


157 posted on 02/15/2011 2:25:00 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Typical_Whitey; SeeSac; paulycy
Don't waste a perfectly useful political word like RINO on ideological differences where LEFTIST or LEFTWINGTARD can be MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE.

Just what is it that makes you little guys twitch and grovel in the face of calling a Leftwingtard a Leftwingtard? Do you imagine you are showing yourselves to be more clever?

For all it's worth you could call these Leftists "toenail clippers" ........

158 posted on 02/15/2011 2:27:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: paulycy

It’s a great idea. I think the effect would be ‘dulled’ though (just imo).

A march on DC........particularly when Congress is in ‘session’, would have the effect of making tail ends pucker if you know what I mean.

Can you imagine being in session and ‘hearing & seeing’ thousands/millions outside? (they will no doubt use the tunnels to navigate)

That’s just my opinion Paulcy. But whatever is most effective... (I’m a soldier not a leader)


159 posted on 02/15/2011 2:28:19 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Outlaw Woman

I would think that a very large contingent would still end up in DC. I just wanted people that couldn’t make it there to congregate “downtown” where their protest could be noticed, too.

That’s all.


160 posted on 02/15/2011 2:34:26 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: wasp69; americanophile
You might want to go to Red State blog. They debunked this argument.
161 posted on 02/15/2011 2:54:21 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: paulycy

You’re right of course. And it is a terrific idea. The only thing I was thinking of is that it is easy to ‘ignore’ us if we are gathered anywhere else but DC.

I’m willing to go to DC. I’m self employed and things are very slow right now (even if they weren’t, on this, I’d be willing to drop all).

It is getting down to the wire; do they work for us or are we now forever enslaved? We must reassert our authority.


162 posted on 02/15/2011 2:54:37 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: paulycy
How would a modern American man stop funding the government?

While I do fear for what Egypt's new government will be...their "strike" stopped the economic wheels of their country.

Is America too big to do the same? One day isn't going to get anyone's attention.

If something like this didn't do it...and all the little stops in between to get there...

The only option we have is to make the economic wheels stop! The question is how?

If Union workers can go on strike why can't the business owners? Picket lines formed in front of "open" businesses after all the others shut-down.

Do it major city by major city every day. First NYC, then DC, Orlando, Chicago, LA, Houston.... each city shut-down and staying shut-down slowly creeping across the country.

We have to stop the money flow. Stop the auto deductions from paychecks...

Is that possible? Literally stop auto-deducting government taxes and on the employee stub state it is the employee's responsibility to send in the taxes.

163 posted on 02/15/2011 2:57:59 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Palladin

I’m going through the thread right now and your post shows just why we are in the shape we are in. Now if you bother to read my comment at the beginning you would have seen that it was posted for ‘informational’ purposes only. Go ahead and sit back on your fat ass, watch your sports on T.V. and accuse everyone of being an alarmist. It accomplishes so much.


164 posted on 02/15/2011 2:58:21 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Outlaw Woman

Pete Sessions office: Rep King brought a bill that was in violation of the Rules Committee

Rep King: we brought a bill to the Rules Committee and asked them to help make it abide by the rules and the Rules Committee just rejected it rather than help us

I think the Rules Committee did not help King


165 posted on 02/15/2011 3:09:40 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: thesearethetimes...
Office Contact Information U.S. House of Representatives H-312 The Capitol Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone: (202) 225-9191 Fax: (202) 225-6763

Thank you for the information. I just got off the phone talking with a man at the rules committee. He explained that Rep. King's ammendment was grandstanding and was against the rules. I told him go to Red State blog because they debunk this. He then said the are going to be lots of opportunities and they did pass the repeal.

My response was do you think we are idiots in the heartland? I stressed they've got 2 years. We elected them to end obamacare.

He said "we have to follow the rules". I just laughed and said like the Rats did when they passed obamacare?

166 posted on 02/15/2011 3:11:43 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: MrInvisible
I had planned to move to East Europe if things got out of hand but the loser gov there is importing 55 million Africans and Middle Easterners so where is my family able to go?

Panama City is thriving.

167 posted on 02/15/2011 3:16:50 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Outlaw Woman
This needs to be addressed by the States, not congress! I hand delivered a letter urging Pam Bondi( Florida Attorney General) to go back to Judge Vinson and ask for a restraining order since the federal government is ignoring Vinsons ruling. I urge all of you to do the same! Start local and work your way up! Time is of the essence.
168 posted on 02/15/2011 3:21:54 PM PST by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed!)
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To: paulycy

Some advice for Mr. Boehner.

QUIT YOUR CRYING, BRING YOUR BALLS TO THE TABLE, AND ACT LIKE A F#$%!NG LEADER!


169 posted on 02/15/2011 3:29:13 PM PST by princeofdarkness (The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
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To: VictoryGal

Yep, they called me this past week...and even after I stated I’d be donating to candidates independant of the party...and why...she continued to read her “script” and asked for less money. Astounding me I told her...and then you people wonder why we aren’t funding you anymore...You’re not listening anymore than you did to what I just told you...and if you won’t listen to me in the means I intend to donate then why should I believe the party is going to hear any of us on the big issues.


170 posted on 02/15/2011 3:29:37 PM PST by caww
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To: RockinRight

I’m confused by this and don’t understand the republicans reasoning...can they or not come in from another direction or is this now a done deal? Funded or not? Do they know something we don’t and plan a different attack?


171 posted on 02/15/2011 3:32:55 PM PST by caww
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To: Outlaw Woman
I’m not sure that just a ‘march’ is going to do the trick.

It would have to be targeted at the Republicans to get their act together and fight for what we asked them to. So I really don't see that that would work either without the Democrates using it to their advantage................ I keep hoping the republicans know something we don't and have a plan to dump the whole mess....but I'm beginning to think it's wishful thinking rather than hope on my part.

172 posted on 02/15/2011 3:44:25 PM PST by caww
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To: Outlaw Woman

You are probably right, but this is a public forum and one must be discreet.


173 posted on 02/15/2011 4:02:25 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

I believe our email is still secure.


174 posted on 02/15/2011 4:06:51 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: wmfights

kudos to you. Absolutely spot on


175 posted on 02/15/2011 4:10:09 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: EBH

The only thing that is economically holding this country up is the flow of money, credit, mortgage payments, and the taxes withheld.

It would take people striking from working, not paying their mortgage, and the upping of deductions on pay. And maybe a run on the banks. There isn’t very much cash around, either.

That would stop the government.

The question would be, what would they do if all that happened??

And are Americans mad enough yet to do ALL of this in enough numbers?

not yet, I’m afraid, not yet.


176 posted on 02/15/2011 4:22:48 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Damn the cowards!

Off with THEIR heads in 2011 or when they come back up for election!


177 posted on 02/15/2011 4:22:51 PM PST by LUV W (No Compromise!)
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To: TruthConquers

And one more thing: stop spending, buy NOTHING!!!!


178 posted on 02/15/2011 4:24:22 PM PST by TruthConquers ( Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Captain PJ
Our GOV is failing us in a bad way. Time to go all Egypt on thier a$$es?>/i>

I'm ready. We have lots of rocks to throw around here. I'm PISSED!!

179 posted on 02/15/2011 4:26:35 PM PST by LUV W (No Compromise!)
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To: wmfights

Unbelievable isn’t it? Thank you so much for giving them a little something to think about. We all need to stay on them, because it is very clear that they darn sure are not going to do it on their own : /

Rules Office Contact Information U.S. House of Representatives H-312 The Capitol Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone: (202) 225-9191 Fax: (202) 225-6763

Thank you again!
Tatt


180 posted on 02/15/2011 4:36:02 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: paulycy; Beckwith

Bleating blatting John will never come through. He thinks its business as usual, and this Heath Care bill is just another little bill which they must tinker with and act as bi partisan gentlemen.

To bad. If the bill is not defunded, then we will have violence over it.

This is what this whole failure of The GOP means. They refuse the will of the people?Very bad news.

The GOP will not win the next presidential contest if they do not defund. Their base will simply stay home and let things get far worse. A horrible thing, but a phenomenon of the modern consevative voter which makes no sense, but it happens.Once the conservative base gets fed up beyond a certain point,it seems they just opt out.Maybe this is what the GOP is countig on? Nothing else as to why they fail to defund makes any sense!They have the power and will not use it.


181 posted on 02/15/2011 4:40:03 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: wmfights

182 posted on 02/15/2011 4:41:01 PM PST by LUV W (No Compromise!)
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To: sickoflibs

But such a bill would have to be approved in the senate and then signed into law, where as spending and appropriations are the business of the House.

If they don’t defund this, I am ready whenever everybody else is to march on congress and the WH, NOT peacefully, and remove all of those people from OUR buildings, throw them into the streets, and start all over.


183 posted on 02/15/2011 4:59:28 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: sickoflibs

But such a bill would have to be approved in the senate and then signed into law, whereas spending and appropriations are the business of the House.

If they don’t defund this, I am ready whenever everybody else is to march on congress and the WH, NOT peacefully, and remove all of those people from OUR buildings, throw them into the streets, and start all over.


184 posted on 02/15/2011 4:59:53 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: sickoflibs

But such a bill would have to be approved in the senate and then signed into law, whereas spending and appropriations are the business of the House.

If they don’t defund this, I am ready whenever everybody else is to march on congress and the WH, NOT peacefully, and remove all of those people from OUR buildings, throw them into the streets, and start all over.


185 posted on 02/15/2011 4:59:53 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: meyer

Agree 100%. I’m ready any time.


186 posted on 02/15/2011 5:01:55 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: goodtomato

“This needs to be addressed by the States, not congress!”

Indeed. I see everyone here screaming and yelling when our main forces should be pouring into the states to fight the Washington fascists from the states. Screaming at these traitorous jackasses in Washington is a waste of time.

We just elected more than 700 patriots to the state legislatures and completely took over 26 states. We need to be in our states firing volleys and starting 10,000 brushfires that the criminal fascists in Washington have neither the manpower nor resources to extinguish. Doing that will demoralize and exhaust our enemies, while at the same time perfecting our future actions.

The states are our best political base to take on the traitors in DC. Expecting the enemy to change because we call or march is counterproductive. We need to be in our states, supporting patriot state legislators and preparing for battle.

Too many people are mis-focused.The Founders left us a blueprint of how to take on a totalitarian dictatorship. One of the critical factors is securing a political base. For us, as with the Founders, that base is the states.

We need to be setting up committees of safety (look it up), picking territory and fights where we take a stand, and not letting the enemy pick it, and bringing new patriots into our movement.

We have a hell of a lot of work to do. And as you said: This needs to be addressed by the states, not congress.

Great perception on your part.


187 posted on 02/15/2011 5:08:15 PM PST by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: Deo volente

Agree 100%.

I’ll add that I’m tired of Freepers sticking up for pols, any pols, including Palin, as if any of them are the second coming of Christ.

They need to look in themselves for the strength to do what we know we need to do.


188 posted on 02/15/2011 5:10:01 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: VictoryGal
This is why primaries REALLY matter.

You are so right. This is why we have primaries BUT I have no use for those who claim we should vote all of them out because Steve King is my congressman and I'll fight to keep him there as long as I can.

189 posted on 02/15/2011 5:32:34 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Outlaw Woman

Defund then repeal or Secession...

NON F’ING NEGOTIABLE...


190 posted on 02/15/2011 5:36:26 PM PST by myself6
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To: ratsreek

Did FR reponse slow down? You hit the post button threes times.

The problem is they promised to defund it. I see their problem but they sghouldnt have promised to get elected.


191 posted on 02/15/2011 5:38:47 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Outlaw Woman
Kill it Congress!

192 posted on 02/15/2011 5:43:08 PM PST by RedMDer (Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
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To: sickoflibs

It just sat there not updating. Sorry about that. Just one of those starnge computer things.

I think they should not fund it, to hell with the law. Let the rats force the issue instead of just obediently following the rats’ commandant. The ocommie administration was found in contempt of court by a federal judge over the oil drilling permits just two weeks ago. Do they care? Hell no. Still no permits. I say ‘eff ‘em. It’s more important that deathcare not get implemented than the little reputations of a handful of committee members.


193 posted on 02/15/2011 6:18:29 PM PST by ratsreek
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To: muawiyah

Well see its like this you have to draw the line somewhere.... and the point that was made perfectly clear last summer was that there is absolutely no such thing as a moderate Democrat, that blue dog crap is fake as Obama is.

When Bart Stupak the supposed “Pro Life” Democrat caucus leader folded on Obama care he made my point crystal clear.

On the other Hand, RINO’s are a bit more useful to Conservatives because they can be trained and molded and if they go off the reservation they can be primary challenged and that is exactly what we have begun doing, sure this will take time but my hope is that some of the wavering Republicans can still be shown the light all we have to do is give them the Specter choice.


194 posted on 02/15/2011 6:31:31 PM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: wmfights; wasp69; americanophile
Let's see ~ you put something into an appropriations bill then the next time you lose control of the House the other side doesn't put it in there and you lose the show.

I think we've been doing that with the Hyde Amendment for decades.

There's some wisdom of sticking such things in other bills of a more permanent character ~ alas, Democrat Presidents, and Democrat controlled Senates are always willing to let that legislation die.

I think the answer is STICK IT IN BOTH appropriations bills and regular legislation ~ every single stinking little piece of it!

The legislative sweetener that'll get even Obama to go along with it is to send him an appropriations bill that cuts deeper than any Democrat could imagine ~ I'm thinking a $1.2 trillion cut ~ maybe more ~ and it eliminates EVERYTHING they've argued we need for the last 60 years.

Or, they can sign on to the other bills with our preferred legislation first.

That'll probably leave Louise Slaughter with her panties in a bunch ~ if she even wears panties.

195 posted on 02/15/2011 6:41:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Outlaw Woman

You knew that they would. The election is over. Get back under the porch and stay there until we need you next election.


196 posted on 02/15/2011 6:43:30 PM PST by sport
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To: EBH

They can do anything they damn well please.Who or what is going to stop them? It damn sure is not the Constitution.


197 posted on 02/15/2011 6:49:33 PM PST by sport
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To: Captain PJ

Conservatives take to the streets? The only time Conservatives will take to the streets is on the way to the camps with armed guards on each side and front and rear.


198 posted on 02/15/2011 6:53:30 PM PST by sport
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To: Outlaw Woman
Folks, I hate to pour fire retardent on this Republican-bashing thread, but...

1. But has another source reported this?

2. Has anybody ever heard of Grassfire Nation?

3. Here is a link to Grassfire Nation ^ the current issue. You will note that there is no such report!

199 posted on 02/15/2011 6:57:19 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: skeeter
Its becoming clear where the establishment republicans come down in all this.

Just now?! It's been clear for a very, very long time. C'mon, you're class of '98, we're supposed to know better!

Can't trust the establishment R's anymore than you can trust them low-down dirty POS Democrats...

200 posted on 02/15/2011 7:00:59 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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