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TUESDAY MIDDAY--- BREAKING NEWS ON OBAMACARE REPEAL:
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Posted on 02/15/2011 11:20:06 AM PST by Outlaw Woman

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To: Parley Baer

Dreir
http://rules.house.gov/singlepages.aspx?NewsID=3&RSBD=4

Servant of the Cross posted a direct link as well (#10)


51 posted on 02/15/2011 11:52:39 AM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Deb
Another guy I love, Dr. Thomas Sowell, also suggested that the GOP should put extra time and effort into developing a knockout message (ala Steve King), as opposed to a more fearful use of a 'few light jabs'.
52 posted on 02/15/2011 11:53:13 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you again :)

Members of the Committee on Rules, 112th Congress

David Dreier, CA
Chairman
Pete Sessions, TX
Vice-Chairman
Louise Slaughter, NY
Ranking Minority Member

Virginia Foxx, NC James P. McGovern, MA
Rob Bishop, UT Alcee Hastings, FL
Rob Woodall, GA Jared Polis, CO
Richard Nugent, FL
Tim Scott, SC
Daniel Webster, FL
TBD

Office Contact Information U.S. House of Representatives
H-312 The Capitol
Washington, D.C. 20515 Phone: (202) 225-9191
Fax: (202) 225-6763
Email: Rules.Rs@mail.house.gov


53 posted on 02/15/2011 11:53:26 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: savedbygrace

I saw the excerpt of that, but hadn’t the time to read the story this morning. Do you have the link?


54 posted on 02/15/2011 11:53:34 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: CPT Clay

Rep Virginia Foxx is apparently more concerned about avoiding the attacks from Dims and the media if they were to change the rules or override the rules than she is about the destruction of the USA by Obamacare.


55 posted on 02/15/2011 11:53:53 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: thesearethetimes...

How can a “Rules” committee trump the RULE OF LAW?

ANSWER: They can’t.

The Health Care Law has been ruled by the court to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Therefore it “has no standing” in any government budget bill!

The Administration wants it in the budget...then they need to get their butts to court.

Sincerely,

AN AMERICAN WHO UNDERSTANDS THE RULE OF LAW.


56 posted on 02/15/2011 11:55:37 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Deb

Give me a red pen and watch how fast the DeathCare funding disappears. So would Dept. of No Energy, Dept. of No Education, HHS, etc.

This unconstitutional POS legislation was pushed through bribes, lies and intimidation. Lots of people were voted out of Congress for it. Apparently not enough people got defeated.


57 posted on 02/15/2011 11:55:44 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Parley Baer

Good memory! See post 53 for information :)


58 posted on 02/15/2011 11:55:52 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Outlaw Woman
I'm afraid that my worst fears have come to pass. We will not be able to, through legal means, erradicate the abortion called Obamacare. Our own party, OUR GUYS, are bunch of no-ball bastards that do not even have the guts needed to call a spade a spade. They won't stand for morals and ethics - apparently they have none. They care not about the plights and taxes you and I face; they only care about their perks, their 'adulation' from a two-faced media, and a pee-in-their-pants hysteria of upsetting Democrats and the Number of the Beast, our current President.

This will not be solved though legislation for there is no will. At this point, they can choke on their 2012 campaign coffers; the only thing I have for anyone up there is a different alternative.....

59 posted on 02/15/2011 11:55:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: thesearethetimes...
I was about to explode, and while I share your concern, I can understand them wanting to prevent legislating on appropriations bills. We can start by reminding Committee Chairman David Dreier (R-CA):
Office (202) 225-2305
Toll Free District Office (888) 906-2626
60 posted on 02/15/2011 11:55:54 AM PST by americanophile ("The Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon." - George Washington)
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To: americanophile

This is just bullshit for you can appeal (to deaf ears).


61 posted on 02/15/2011 11:56:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: rockinqsranch

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2673880/posts


62 posted on 02/15/2011 11:56:54 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: thesearethetimes...; Outlaw Woman
You are quite welcome. ;-)

These truly are the times that try men's souls ....

63 posted on 02/15/2011 11:57:17 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: EBH

EBH posts - “The Health Care Law has been ruled by the court to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Therefore it “has no standing” in any government budget bill!”

I think you have a VERY good foundation to build an email on there FRiend.

Lord, give us strength.
Tatt


64 posted on 02/15/2011 11:58:54 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Yep, those elections really mattered didn't they?

Friggin bastards!

65 posted on 02/15/2011 11:58:59 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Indeed... living history is a lot harder than it looks : /


66 posted on 02/15/2011 12:00:37 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: paulycy

I fully expect to see Boehner at some point break down crying about the “women and children” who might “suffer” if any of their precious government healthcare is cut off.

SO disappointed in the pile of junk we got from this election.


67 posted on 02/15/2011 12:02:18 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: americanophile

Rep. Virginia Foxx:

Phone: (202) 225-2071
Fax: (202) 225-2995

District offices:

Clemmons, NC
Phone: (336) 778-0211
Toll Free: 1-(866) 677-8968
Fax: (336) 778-2290

Boone, NC
Phone: (828) 265-0240
Fax: (828) 265-0390


68 posted on 02/15/2011 12:02:40 PM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Never underestimate Pelosieeeeee. She is not a socialists but a communists and this little sick nitwit will continue to do for the sick brainless people that continue to vote her in. America is really sick.
69 posted on 02/15/2011 12:06:30 PM PST by Logical me
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To: B Knotts
You are wasting your time. They won't listen. Just like they are ignoring the recent Appellate Court judicial ruling.

This outcome was absolutely predictable.

70 posted on 02/15/2011 12:07:51 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: skeeter
Its becoming clear where the establishment republicans come down in all this.

Don't hold much value judgments from the Republicans. Most of them are equally corrupt and do not value the Constitution.

71 posted on 02/15/2011 12:08:52 PM PST by Logical me
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To: paulycy

This man is not a true Republican. He is a RINO and will screw us, every opportunity he gets. Further, he is unstable.


72 posted on 02/15/2011 12:09:09 PM PST by Banjoguy (Barack H. Obama, the Democrats and the MSM are at war with the American people.)
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To: savedbygrace
Rep Virginia Foxx is apparently more concerned about avoiding the attacks from Dims and the media if they were to change the rules or override the rules than she is about the destruction of the USA by Obamacare.


73 posted on 02/15/2011 12:12:00 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

My Letter to the chairman:

“Dear Congressman Dreier,

Why is your committee agreeing to fund Obamacare, when a Federal Judge has already ruled it unconstitutional?

Regards,”


74 posted on 02/15/2011 12:12:54 PM PST by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: Adams

Because “Mr. Dreier” is RINO scum!


75 posted on 02/15/2011 12:14:58 PM PST by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: americanophile
"...he has "lots of other opportunities" to offer a similar amendment to other bills this year."

Are all those other bills "must pass" as this one is? Don't think so and they will be promptly veto. Meanwhile the spending on OC continues and it’s provisions metastasize big-time and wrap it's socialist tentacles in every facet of our economy. If they don't do it now, it will never be done. It's kick the can time again for the RINOs.

76 posted on 02/15/2011 12:15:31 PM PST by fewz (As Obama pretends to moderate, his Commie minions trudge along on their "Long March".)
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To: Captain PJ

“Egypt”? Nah! One word...Mussolini.


77 posted on 02/15/2011 12:16:28 PM PST by RasterMaster (We the tax-payer subsidize DUh-bama's failures)
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To: Deo volente
SO disappointed in the pile of junk we got from this election.

I try to be optimistic but it's getting harder and harder and today, especially, it's pretty tough.

78 posted on 02/15/2011 12:16:37 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: paulycy

What the Foxx?


79 posted on 02/15/2011 12:16:50 PM PST by windsorknot ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Deo volente

I dunno... I think you might have to wait a little longer ; }

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2674157/posts


80 posted on 02/15/2011 12:17:04 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Adams
Why is your committee agreeing to fund Obamacare, when a Federal Judge has already ruled it unconstitutional?

That is the best question asked in a very long time.

81 posted on 02/15/2011 12:17:57 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Get on the phone, everybody, and EXPLODE YOUR DISPLEASURE TO THE DAMN POLITICIANS. We must be riding their arses and EXPLODING OUR DISPLEASURE...make these damn cowards fight for We The People and our country.
82 posted on 02/15/2011 12:18:43 PM PST by itssme
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To: Outlaw Woman

Gee shocker...NOT...


83 posted on 02/15/2011 12:18:58 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Outlaw Woman

[Found before a crumbling statue of one-term Emperor-by-Trick Barack Hussein Obama
in a glass-filled oil-rimmed desert, comprising what was once known as ‘America’
before it became the ‘Communist Islamic Caliphate called New Kenya”]


"We first heard of the undocumented enigma named Obama ,
Who initially denied his ties to Kenya, Commies and Osama.
At every turn, he worked to have our country and Justice defeated,
With every enemy, he schemed to have our children deleted,
The lack of a single testicle between Congress and the military led to our final trauma."


84 posted on 02/15/2011 12:19:44 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Logical me
Asking an entrenched republican to oppose the democrats statism is like asking a union member to refuse a pay increase they know their employer cannot afford. It takes an ideologically motivated true believer.

Useful to remember the next time the moderates speak of 'compromise'. The time for all that is over - we're too far gone now.

85 posted on 02/15/2011 12:21:55 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Hilary’s FBI files still effective. as are kickbacks to both sides.


86 posted on 02/15/2011 12:23:42 PM PST by floriduh voter (I miss my flip flops and summer clothes. Mr. Weatherman, do something!)
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To: Diogenesis

Your post..has me sobbing


87 posted on 02/15/2011 12:24:26 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Outlaw Woman

So sad!!!!!!!!!!


88 posted on 02/15/2011 12:25:34 PM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I still dont understand the issue here, why they cant defund it.


89 posted on 02/15/2011 12:26:47 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: paulycy

HA!


90 posted on 02/15/2011 12:28:52 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: paulycy

I concur and if the snow wasn’t so deep I’d go find a rock to climb under. This sucks.


91 posted on 02/15/2011 12:28:58 PM PST by mcshot (So this is how it feels to be flushed. The "that's impossible" days are upon us.)
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To: americanophile
Before we explode...

"The committee determined the measure violated House rules against members "legislating" on appropriations bills. However, a committee member reminded Rep. King that he has "lots of other opportunities" to offer a similar amendment to other bills this year."

In other words, kick the can down the road and p!ss on the mandate of the voters!....and, Judge Vinson's ruling!

92 posted on 02/15/2011 12:31:26 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: savedbygrace

Thank you for the link. I read it and understand what they are doing. Clearly they want to show that they are better representatives of the people, but they cannot think for a moment that it will change any Democrat’s mind, in the media or the private sector, about the Republican party.

And I REALLY do not understand how not one of them is talking about this law being ruled unconstitutional, and how moving forward to fund it is unconscionable.

You really have to wonder about these folks : /

Tatt


93 posted on 02/15/2011 12:31:39 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: savedbygrace

Thank you very much for providing that link.

“Which proves one thing. Democrats like Slaughter know how tough it was to pass the health care law in 2009 and 2010.

And now Republicans like King are learning how tough it is to undo it.”

I can understand the reluctance to vary the established rules, and NOT be RAT in their approach to this task, but I also see King’s point. The Left is well experienced in breaking the rules.

When our people are dealing with RATS, they aren’t dealing with people that can be dealt with. Democrats aren’t a true American Political entity anymore as much as they are a minor self serving radical club that will do anything required to prevail.

If there are other means to get the job done, and get it done in such a way as to not fund anything that would make it even more difficult to stop ObamaCare down the road, then fine, go there. Otherwise they had better do it now with whatever means they can muster no matter how it looks to the purists.

I was let down at the idea they would refuse King’s amendment without any idea of direction other than “there has to be something we can do”, and not vary the rules.


94 posted on 02/15/2011 12:31:47 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Cowardly republicans. No more donations and no more tea party support for them.


95 posted on 02/15/2011 12:32:03 PM PST by jersey117
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To: thesearethetimes...

Man I’m pissed!!!

I thought we had it made in the shade with the GOP putting the breaks on Obamacare. But apparently not.

The US is turning into a loser country.

I had planned to move to East Europe if things got out of hand but the loser gov there is importing 55 million Africans and Middle Easterners so where is my family able to go?


96 posted on 02/15/2011 12:33:41 PM PST by MrInvisible
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To: Outlaw Woman

I think Rush talked about it.


97 posted on 02/15/2011 12:33:50 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Banjoguy
“Further, he (Boehner) is unstable.”

He talks a huff and puff good game, and then he fails us.

He is an alcoholic, who cries. Ulysses S. Grant was an alcoholic, but he did come through for the common good during the Civil War. For now, Boehner is what we have to work with.

Courage is fear that has said its prayers. These politicians are lacking courage, are cowards and place value on the wrong things. Grab those cajones, boys and girls, and act with the courage that our soldiers must display every day. What the hell is YOUR excuse for being weak?

Keep the pressure on Boehner, everyone, and demand, push him into delivering on his promise to listen to the people who spoke in November, 2010. THIS IS OUR JOB, AND WE MUST KEEP ON THE BACKS OF THESE POLITICIANS...get er’ done.

98 posted on 02/15/2011 12:33:57 PM PST by itssme
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To: sickoflibs
They are going by the ‘rules’ instead of the Constitution. As I understand it, there is a ‘rule’ which states that an ongoing ‘funded’ item cannot be ‘defunded’ the way Steve King is proposing. Pelosi, somehow, put automatic funding in the bill itself.

They are standing by the ‘rules’ instead of the Constitution (and their oath(s).

It doesn't matter that the whole monstrosity was passed by every trick in the book and broke every rule written. Or that the pos in the WH refuses to bow to any law restricting him, the repubs have asserted that they ‘will not break the rules’.

99 posted on 02/15/2011 12:37:10 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Outlaw Woman

Who’s on the House Rules Committee and why are they acting as Enemies of the Constitution and American citizens?


100 posted on 02/15/2011 12:37:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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