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Iraqi Says He Made Up Tale of Biological Weapons Before War
NY Times ^ | February 15, 2011 | James Risen

Posted on 02/15/2011 7:05:40 PM PST by Suvroc10

WASHINGTON — The Iraqi defector whose claims that Saddam Hussein’s government had biological weapons became part of the Bush administration’s justification for the 2003 invasion of Iraq has admitted that he fabricated his story.

The defector, Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, who was code-named “Curveball” by the Central Intelligence Agency and German intelligence officials, told the British newspaper The Guardian on Tuesday that he had concocted his tale that Iraq was hiding mobile bioweapons laboratories. He did so, he said, in hopes that his lies would lead to the eventual overthrow of the Iraqi ruler.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqi; wmd

1 posted on 02/15/2011 7:05:50 PM PST by Suvroc10
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To: Suvroc10

Hmmmm...and CIA didn’t know that he made it up? Doubt it.


2 posted on 02/15/2011 7:10:08 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("If the Egyptians are hungry, let them eat ethanol")
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To: Suvroc10

So did England, Russia, and France, among others, who also believed and stated their belief of WMD’s in Iraq also using this guy’s word or had other evidence?


3 posted on 02/15/2011 7:12:59 PM PST by bcr100
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To: Suvroc10

Sorry, I don’t believe it. I don’t believe he told some story that could not be at least partially authenticated. I believe that some time in the far away future, government documents will be released that will track those Weapons of Mass Destruction to some Valley in Syria.


4 posted on 02/15/2011 7:13:23 PM PST by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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To: Suvroc10

What did the Iraqi’s do with the bioweapons they used on the Kurds. They came from Iraq, not the Dominican Republic. . .


5 posted on 02/15/2011 7:14:38 PM PST by mia
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To: Suvroc10

I watched the move, The Green Zone, yesterday.

It had nearly the exact same theme, except that the guy was a high government official and he used the code name Magellan. He, too, made up the stories of WMD to get the US to invade so he could gain political power with Sadam’s exit.


6 posted on 02/15/2011 7:17:11 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Suvroc10

Bush is not president anymore.


7 posted on 02/15/2011 7:21:42 PM PST by the_daug
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To: mewykwistmas

george tenent


8 posted on 02/15/2011 7:25:55 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: the_daug

Bread and circus..

The MSM has their orders. ‘make Obama look good’ and
You gotta bring up the boogeyman every once in a while to keep the peasants off Obama’s back.

‘I’m not Bush. Love me!’


9 posted on 02/15/2011 7:26:40 PM PST by griswold3
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To: the_daug

Bread and circus..

The MSM has their orders. ‘make Obama look good’ and
You gotta bring up the boogeyman every once in a while to keep the peasants off Obama’s back.

‘I’m not Bush. Love me!’


10 posted on 02/15/2011 7:26:56 PM PST by griswold3
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To: Suvroc10

smells like bs to me


11 posted on 02/15/2011 7:29:37 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: the_daug

Correct . Also there are rumors floating around about the start of WW2 . Win the future . These dopes talk about trains and sputniks . Onward into the past .


12 posted on 02/15/2011 7:29:57 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: Suvroc10

How much did the Obamanoids pay this guy for saying this just now?


13 posted on 02/15/2011 7:32:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Suvroc10
and all those truck convoys to Syria were???
14 posted on 02/15/2011 7:33:08 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Suvroc10
I sure wish he told us before we actually found them, would have saved a bunch of time.
15 posted on 02/15/2011 7:44:06 PM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Suvroc10

“I was lying back then, but, really, you can trust me now”!!! Yeah, um, NO!


16 posted on 02/15/2011 7:47:06 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: Suvroc10

Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi= IDIOT who wants his 15 minutes of fame.

There are quotes from Raper Clinton, Lurch Kerry, Mad Albright, Deaddy Kennedy that prove they ALL thought there were WMDs prior to Bush. (and, there WERE! Bush was right.)

IDIOT looking for attention from the oides that voted “sissy-boy” into office.


17 posted on 02/15/2011 7:47:24 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Suvroc10

I said in fall of 2002 that this was probably the case.

Personally, I am thrilled for this guy and I totally agree. I am thrilled that Saddam Hussein is gone.

I am thrilled that the anti-war Movement lost. I think across the political spectrum the anti-war movement is a plainly anti-semitic and anti American movement without moral content. I have never observed or read of the movement protesting wars beyond those involving these two militaries.

Clearly, Saddam Hussein dropped chemical weapons on the Kurds and failing to prove that he did not have them— he got his just end.

Everything else is pro-genocide propaganda that should be seen for the moral emptiness that it is. There was no presumptive burden on the U.S. to prove Saddam had them. He had used them unlike any previous or thus far known sovereign.


18 posted on 02/15/2011 7:48:03 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: lonestar67
There was no presumptive burden on the U.S. to prove Saddam had them.

I find it particularly ironic that Joe Wilson (yes, that Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame's Joe Wilson) was touring college campuses all across the nation during the three months preceding the invasion. His message:

That the U.S. shouldn't even think about invading Iraq.

Why? Because Saddam Hussein had WMD.

And...he would use them.

Whaddaphony!

19 posted on 02/15/2011 7:57:03 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

Yes, and I am not surprised.

I think one of the greatest improvements in security we presently enjoy is the humiliation and rhetorical subjugation of the antiwar movement and various frauds such as the NYT.

Global dictators now must recalibrate their consistent abuses to realize that the propensity of US warmaking is much higher and the threshold for murdering our troops and ‘vietnaming” America out of the war is also higher.

Obama certainly wants to repeal these successes in warfighting but even he has had to ‘surge’ in Afghanistan because it is the new American template for insurgencies instead of ‘tuck tail and run’— which was the previous US policy for far too many Presidents.


20 posted on 02/15/2011 8:02:04 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: mewykwistmas
Seems as if I remember reading that Curveball was considered a Screwball and no one paid attention to his claim.
21 posted on 02/15/2011 8:03:57 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: svxdave
some Valley in Syria

The Bekka valley. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

22 posted on 02/15/2011 8:04:42 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: lonestar67
Who cares what Ahmed says he said?


23 posted on 02/15/2011 8:12:34 PM PST by conservativeimage.com ("Uh, let me be clear. Uh." - President Barack Obama)
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To: Mortrey

**Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi= IDIOT who wants his 15 minutes of fame.**

Article said he told this to Germans starting in 2000.

**There are quotes from Raper Clinton, Lurch Kerry, Mad Albright, Deaddy Kennedy that prove they ALL thought there were WMDs prior to Bush. (and, there WERE! Bush was right.)**

Quotes from the Left Wing “Can’t shoot straight”CLUB are all from 1998...
So the info from RABID AHmed is Worthless, and a rewrite of history.

But then ... I still need 2 MORE corroborating sources to trust the NY SLIMES.. only need 1 for the National Enquirer.


24 posted on 02/15/2011 8:20:30 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Egypt 2011 = Iran 1979)
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To: muleskinner; svxdave

Several years ago, the Israelis flew into the Bekka Valley, fired a couple of rockets at the entrance of a cave, then flew out. Only a couple of Syrian soldiers at the mouth of the cave were reported killed.
No “condemnation” from the White House, or anywhere else, as I recall. And no outcry from Syria.

There were a couple of reports about it on network news, then it disappeared. It lasted a little longer here at FR.

The common thread of thought here was that they sealed off the cave where SoDammed’s WMDs had been stashed. I still believe that was the case.


25 posted on 02/15/2011 8:21:42 PM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: lonestar67
I think one of the greatest improvements in security we presently enjoy is the humiliation and rhetorical subjugation of the antiwar movement and various frauds such as the NYT.

Down...but not defeated.

The antiwar movement has apparently been active in Egypt over the past year -- Code Pink, ANSWER, William Ayers, all the usual suspects. And, of course, the media (not just the NYT) has done everything they can to make Obama the hero of the revolution.

Moreover, the same people who populate ANSWER are available to raise a mob to protest...the environment...treatment of minorities...union actions, etc.

They may be lying low for the moment. But they're plying the same old trade in different venues. Anti-Americans all.

26 posted on 02/15/2011 8:24:34 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: conservativeimage.com

agreed. You are quite right.


27 posted on 02/15/2011 8:35:51 PM PST by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Suvroc10

IIRC, CIA did not have direct access to him. He was run by another country (Germany?).


28 posted on 02/15/2011 8:54:29 PM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: Suvroc10
Hell, Ahmed Chalabi,whom the US relied on, admitted he lied about WMDs a long time ago.
29 posted on 02/15/2011 8:57:39 PM PST by stylin19a ("Marine Sniper - You can run, but you'll just die tired!")
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To: fantom

Next they will be talking about Zeppelins and electric cars. No, we must move forward to rebuild America.


30 posted on 02/15/2011 10:40:04 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: svxdave

I believe you’re right.


31 posted on 02/15/2011 11:02:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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