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CMS Official Confirms That Four States Have Been Granted ObamaCare Waivers
American Spectator ^ | 2/16/11 | Philip Klein

Posted on 02/16/2011 8:36:14 AM PST by Nachum

An Obama administration official on Wednesday confirmed that four states -- including Florida, Tennessee and Ohio -- have been granted waivers from the regulatory requirements of the national health care law.

Steve Larsen, director of the Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight (CCIIO) at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, confirmed the news under questioning from Rep. Cliff Stearns at an oversight hearing for the House Energy and Commerce committee.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cms; confirms; four; healthcare; obamacare; official; states; waivers

1 posted on 02/16/2011 8:36:16 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

How can that be constitutional?


2 posted on 02/16/2011 8:37:24 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: Nachum

And under the American principle of equality under the law, every state should get such a waiver. Better make certain your attorney general files those papers.


3 posted on 02/16/2011 8:38:01 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Nachum

Can’t the admin. admit that Obamacare was a giagantic mistake? We will go through a lot of ‘hell’ for nothing.


4 posted on 02/16/2011 8:39:33 AM PST by Parmy
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To: Nachum; All
NO ONE NEEDS A WAIVER FOR A LAW THAT HAS BEEN DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
5 posted on 02/16/2011 8:39:48 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Nachum

Because some pigs are more equal than others. In this case, important swing states.

The states that don’t matter get to keep Obamacare.


6 posted on 02/16/2011 8:40:43 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Nachum

“...While he said there was also a fourth state that was granted a waiver, he could not recall off the top of his head which state.”

The wonders never cease with these people...


7 posted on 02/16/2011 8:43:01 AM PST by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


8 posted on 02/16/2011 8:45:08 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Qbert
"...While he said there was also a fourth state that was granted a waiver, he could not recall off the top of his head which state.”

Let's see. She said get milk, eggs, bread, and... ah jeez, I can't remember the fourth thing.

9 posted on 02/16/2011 8:46:54 AM PST by Crawdad
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To: Nachum

There needs to be a lawsuit about the waivers.


10 posted on 02/16/2011 8:49:04 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Parmy

Admit it’s a mistake??? LMAO!

This is a guy who just said oil is the energy of the past, and is affirmatively shutting down our oil production. Did you see they are going to revoke the Northwest shale oil permits?! Shale - the hope for the future!

No they aren’t going to admit any “mistakes”. It’s deliberate


11 posted on 02/16/2011 8:49:32 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: The Great RJ
How can that be constitutional?

None of it is Constitutional.

12 posted on 02/16/2011 8:52:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Williams

Where is my damn waiver!


13 posted on 02/16/2011 8:52:45 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Nachum

This could be a way to end the overbearing governmental imposition of Obama-Kare in a way that will allow Obama to “not lose face”.

Just grant waivers to every state and every individual in the country.

That way congress will not have to fight to overthrow the program, Obama will still have his legacy legislative accomplishment and the other 310 million of us will regain our freedom of choice.

That’s a Win-Win as the wonks like to say.


14 posted on 02/16/2011 8:54:36 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: The Great RJ

Seems to me this is where “equal protection” should kick in.


15 posted on 02/16/2011 8:54:36 AM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
NO ONE NEEDS A WAIVER FOR A LAW THAT HAS BEEN DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Thank You!

16 posted on 02/16/2011 8:55:57 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Nachum

doesn’t this bolster the law-suit ?


17 posted on 02/16/2011 8:58:41 AM PST by stylin19a ("Marine Sniper - You can run, but you'll just die tired!")
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To: Crawdad
ah jeez, I can't remember the fourth thing.

Probably corn, as in the Cornhusker Compromise. Perhaps Nebraska is the fourth state?

-PJ

18 posted on 02/16/2011 8:58:55 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Nachum
According to Larsen, the waivers have been granted to states that have programs allowing or requiring the kind of limited medical coverage plans that would otherwise be prohibited by ObamaCare.

Uh? So my emergency only coverage which is prohibited by 0bamacare, has a waiver? Uh?

19 posted on 02/16/2011 8:59:17 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: The Great RJ

“How can that be constitutional?”

The whole thing is unconstitutional so anything that is done under the auspices of Obamacare is unconstitutional.

Just an observation but if 3-4 states are opting out and 700 odd business and unions are getting waivers just exactly who is going to be left to actually be in Obamacare?


20 posted on 02/16/2011 9:02:09 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Nachum

Well, I’m in Ohio. I may have to reconsider closing my business in 2013.


21 posted on 02/16/2011 9:04:14 AM PST by griswold3
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To: Georgia Girl 2
...just exactly who is going to be left to actually be in Obamacare?

States run by socialist legislatures like CT. We are about to implement our own Obamacare called Sustinet that will quickly bankrupt the state...

22 posted on 02/16/2011 9:05:59 AM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Nachum

For the love of Pete.


23 posted on 02/16/2011 9:10:28 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Nachum

This “news” was so suppressed by the media that it took a CONGRESSIONAL hearing to get it out of the most transparent administration in history. What else is HHS hiding?


24 posted on 02/16/2011 9:12:35 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Crawdad
The fourth state is Massachusetts.....because we already have Romneycare!!!! LOL
25 posted on 02/16/2011 9:13:46 AM PST by Sons of Union Vets (No taxation without representation!)
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To: Nachum

It’s becoming more and more apparent that Obamacare is an offensive weapon Obama will use to intimidate his opponents. It may be the law’s undoing.


26 posted on 02/16/2011 9:21:21 AM PST by Spok
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To: Nachum

This fact, possibly unconfirmed, was on FR a couple of weeks ago.


27 posted on 02/16/2011 9:21:54 AM PST by matthew fuller (My list: Bachman, Barbour, Bolton, Cain, Liz Cheney, Daniels, DeMint, Inhofe, Palin, and Pawlenty .)
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To: Nachum

“No State shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws”

- 14th Amendment

Does this mean I can have a waiver too? Or do I have to pay some sort of fealty to 0bamunism?


28 posted on 02/16/2011 9:25:07 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("And did you exchange a walk on part in a war, for a lead role in a cage?")
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To: Nachum

How generous that the beneficent imperial federal government would grant a waiver from regulatory requirements of an unconstitutional law.


29 posted on 02/16/2011 9:29:08 AM PST by windsorknot ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Nachum; All

The ever expanding list of waivers is found here:

http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved_applications_for_waiver.html

Currently there are 729 approved applicant waivers covering a total of 2,189,636 enrollees and four states (Mass, NJ, Tenn, Ohio).


30 posted on 02/16/2011 9:30:33 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Nachum

Obamacare, the Great American Snipehunt.


31 posted on 02/16/2011 9:31:38 AM PST by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: matthew fuller; Nachum

See post # 30.


32 posted on 02/16/2011 9:32:58 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: algernonpj

Good one, thanks..


33 posted on 02/16/2011 9:38:31 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Maybe obama can just slowly give everyone a waiver and let obamacare wither on the vine.


34 posted on 02/16/2011 9:50:27 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: The Great RJ
The waivers adds to the unconstitutionality by breaking the ‘equal protection’ amendment.

Another whole layer of lawlessness.

so when do they get stopped?

35 posted on 02/16/2011 9:53:47 AM PST by maine-iac7
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To: Nachum

This is just like “Democracy in the Middle East”. If it is all that grand to be free, then why are people leaving in droves for Europe?


36 posted on 02/16/2011 10:05:34 AM PST by Chattering Class of 58
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To: Nachum

RE: An Obama administration official on Wednesday confirmed that four states — including Florida, Tennessee and Ohio

Why is the Spectator so shy to name the 4th state?


37 posted on 02/16/2011 10:08:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Nachum

Tennessee has TennCare. However, it is bankrupting the state and even though we get a waiver we still have to pay the taxes for it and the “medical devices” high prices.

I would probably qualify for TennCare but don’t want it. If I have medical bills I will pay for them myself - little by little if I have to. If I am dying I will just go the palliative route with some of that California medical weed.

Totally screwed is what we are.


38 posted on 02/16/2011 10:10:56 AM PST by 30Moves
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To: Nachum

This is a lame effort to declare the case FL brought as “moot”.

see they have waivers so the case is moot.

waiver .... for now.

This just ads fuel to the unconstitutional argument fire.


39 posted on 02/16/2011 10:16:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: The Great RJ
How can that be constitutional?

It isn't. The whole charade is unconstitutional. Obambi and the 'rats were just hoping (and still are, given Kennedy's unpredictability) that they'd have the Supreme Court stacked sufficiently to allow it to happen. All they need it 5 black-robed traitors to say that it's OK and it is the law of the land.

40 posted on 02/16/2011 10:21:02 AM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: algernonpj

Someone investigative journalist should see who is behind each of these entities and see what kind of donations they have made to Obama/Democrats.


41 posted on 02/16/2011 11:09:16 AM PST by DallasDeb
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To: longtermmemmory
see they have waivers so the case is moot.

waiver .... for now.

Exactly right on both points.

42 posted on 02/16/2011 12:04:06 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Nachum

I want too see the Harvard transcripts. Was it an online course or did Elena or Cass call him re: showing up on the Law Review (he never published), pic and for Grad day?

Harvard Law turns out pieces of work.


43 posted on 02/16/2011 12:54:00 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: The Great RJ

If waivers are truly being dished out on a state by state basis, seems this would violate article 4 section 2:

Section. 2. The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

(not that it would make a Constitutional authority like obama any difference)


44 posted on 02/16/2011 2:54:22 PM PST by farmguy
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To: Nachum

That some organizations should be granted waivers and others not, is bad enough, but the refusal of Sibelius to state the criteria used or the method of application IS REALLY MORALLY SICK.

I can HARDLY WAIT for 2012!!!


45 posted on 02/16/2011 7:19:33 PM PST by cookcounty (We can't be overdrawn, we still have moreT-Bill paper!)
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To: maine-iac7
"The waivers adds to the unconstitutionality by breaking the ‘equal protection’ amendment."

A 14th Amendment lawsuit needs to be brought.

46 posted on 02/16/2011 7:22:42 PM PST by cookcounty (We can't be overdrawn, we still have moreT-Bill paper!)
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To: Nachum

Is the high cost of Obamacare hurting your organization?

Do you think you should be exempt from the law that ordinary citizens have to obey?

Are you a big corporation that doesn’t want to obey the law?

Are you a union that supported the passage of Obamacare, and now you want an exemption from the law that you expect everyone else to follow?

Do you want to join this exclusive list of organizations that have received special Obamacare waivers exempting them from the high cost of Obamacare?

http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved...

Then act now!

Call our toll free number to order your special Obamacare waiver today!

Hurry - supplies are limited!


47 posted on 02/17/2011 7:41:56 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Page Not Found

We’re sorry, but there is no www.hhs.gov page that matches your entry. Possible reasons: you may have typed the address incorrectly, the page may have been moved, or it no longer exists.

(that was fast)


48 posted on 02/17/2011 7:57:51 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post.)
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To: Nachum

Animal Farm Politics........


49 posted on 02/17/2011 7:59:56 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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