Skip to comments.Ban of NASCAR military sponsors sought
Posted on 02/16/2011 10:59:30 AM PST by saganite
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The military should not be running ads anywher. We are broke.
WOW I actually AGREE w/ a Dem on something.
While we’re at it, let’s get rid of the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds since they do nothing but fly around looking pretty. And might as well get rid of all the military recruitment centers since they only serve to “advertize” and don’t provide any defense capabilities.
Gee, with an all volunteer military what do we need advertizing or enticement for?
Are you serious???
The Department of Redundancy Department wastes more in post-it notes than the US MIlitary spends on advertising in a single year...
I agree with her sentiment on this, but I was always under the impression that the U.S. military was a NASCAR sponsor because it’s been a successful element of military recruiting over the years.
The country is broke. Wake up and smell the coffee. Ifdiots who watch Tv elected a muslim to destroy america. Cut cut cut and cut more.
Sounds like another Dem wants a draft. This is a recruiting effort. Without recruiting we’d need a draft. GOP needs to run with this response.
I’ll let Betty have this when they also agree to ban all federal $ to colleges that disallow military recruiters on campus.
As a mom of two members of our military I also agree....and the USPS should not be sponsering bike teams.....
We do not have the money !!!!!
She has a point but you don’t need a law for it!
It is a great marketing tool but top tier NASCAR sponsorship is Huge Bucks.
I’ll assume there’s marketing cost/return paperwork somewhere that justifies the expense and someone is looking at it...
*ducking for assuming*
I don’t know how much the military spends on NASCAR sponsorships every year but there are Army, Air Force and Army National Guard sponsorships that I’m aware of. If advertising is meant to generate results there could be no better sport to advertise in than NASCAR. That’s a generally conservative patriotic audience and I’m sure the services benefit from the publicity.
After all, can’t you just imagine some kid who’s a motorhead looking up at those fighters flying overhead and thinking, “man I would love to have a chance to work on one of those”.
Please wait till after the March 19-20 show!
“WOW I actually AGREE w/ a Dem on something.”
What is bothering me is how INFREQUENTLY this is happening. We should be agreeing on most things, not a very rare few. What is wrong with THEM?
IOW, why is anyone with any sense at all still self-identifying as a Democrat?
How about we wait till the end of the season that way I can see them one last time too!
Most Military “Recruiting” is a First Class WASTE of money.
You know what? I actually AGREE with this Democrat! Funding auto racing is NOT a proper function of the Federal government. Neither is funding monkey sex or Gorebull warming research, baby murders, so-called “art” that besmirches the King of Kings, or leftie television and radio propoganda. DEFUND IT ALL!
What you said PLUS banning all advertising dollars pimping the benefits of ObamaCare. I hear a lot more of that crap than I do military advertising.
Nonsense. People will sign up on their own. I tried to sign up after 9/11 - they didn't want me. They did, however, want the thousands of young bucks who also signed up out of patriotism.
We don't need a draft. We don't need a large standing army. Standing armies are an enemy of freedom.
If not, then don't sponsor race cars.
Unless there's a cool looking turret or a Ma Deuce mounted on it!
(I'm assuming that a 105mm cannon is out of the question ... but then again, who am I to assume??)
I don’t know about that, personally.
I got recruited by the sign in the recruiters window offering $326.10 a month, 3 hots, and a cot. I saw a number of my high schools students enlist because of 9/11. I think recruitment stating the facts is fine. I am not at all understanding how sponsoring a race car presents facts about our military or our country.
I think the tactical video ‘game’ is useful, too. Some do well at it, some don’t. I wouldn’t, from experience with similar games.
I knew I wasn’t suited for combat arms before I ever enlisted, from listening to a friend who’d been in the first wave to hit the beach at Iwo Jima talking about what had happened there, and what he had to do while he was there. We’d hunted together, and it was obvious to us both I’d not make it in combat.
So how much was the sign?
The Army also sponsors a video game, America’s Army. Great recruitment tool, and on a cost-per-person-hour basis far cheaper than TV. Even better, the Army then turned around and started using it to train its own troops, even using customized versions to train Special Forces.
The only thing that’s missing is a phone-home feature to single out the best players for targeted recruitment. Kind of like in The Last Starfighter.
If the military is restricted from sponsoring NASCAR entries, then they have to restrict the entire government who owns GM and Chrysler. The government spends millions on NASCAR and, as opposed to the military, doesn’t serve any recruiting purposes.
I agree on the basis of cost but the democrat I saw talking about it on the news today clearly just hates the military having any kind of public face at all.
However, NASCAR advertising is a real bargain compared to other advertising dollars. Basically if you cut NASCAR sponsorships, you can’t really justify any military advertising at all.
I wonder how that Democrat would feel about military advertising if the Navy, for example, sponsored a gay pride parade in light of the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell?
The advertising is part of the enlistment program. It always has been. Without the ads, we get no new enlistees or we have to settle for substandard enlistees.
If we can't field a decent military, then the whole country is at risk.
While the advertising needs to be focused where it will due the most good for the money, NASCAR events is probably the best place to spend the money, since a substantial portion of our military recruits come from places where NASCAR is King.
They certainly should not be wasting advertising money by sponsoring Oprah, or the View or Masterpiece Theatre, however there is no doubt but that the military sponsoring NASCAR events is clearly advertising money that is well spent.
The military’s been advertising since the beginning of the nation.
Believe it or not, Frantzie, protecting the nation is one of the Constitutional obligations that actually finds itself mentioned in that document.
It’s not the result of an emanation of a penumbra, nor an overeaching extension of the commerce clause.
A republican should co-sponsor this AND ADD an addendum banning all federal $ to colleges that disallow military recruiters on campus.
Call her bluff.
Yup. The hazards of an all-volunteer army. I think it probably returns more bang for their advertising buck than anything else they've got.
Obviously though it would be much cheaper to go back to a draft and pay a few dollars a day.
Not after DADT is repealed. Probably last place they want ot recruit.
They sponsor cars in the NHRA also and have been doing it for years. These are places where young men are found and are great tools.
Senate Wastes Millions of Stimulus Road Signs
Betty was pretty quiet about this...
NASCAR. Thats a generally conservative patriotic audience and Im sure the services benefit from the publicity.
Had to read twelve post until I found the reason, the real reason for no sponsor for NASCAR. A majority of NASCAR viewers are conservative ! Now while we’re at it lets stop sponsoring NPR and PBS !!
Also important is the morale value. Our military men have near total access at the races. I’m pretty sure they get in free here at MIS.
Without the ads (many running now showing parent of young person coming to terms with the youth’s desire to enlist and serve), the military would be subject to whatever the MSM chooses to use to characterize it. I think advertising is vital both to promote the honor of joining the military, and to promote patriotism and appreciation for the troops.
The first recruiting was done in local pubs and taverns, one pint at a time. Tun’s Tavern in Philadelphia has always been considered the birthplace of the U.S. Marines first recruiting drive. It has always taken some degree of advertising and advertising sponsorship to recruit for the military. Whether or not NASCAR sponsorship is appropriate might be a matter for discussion but the recruiting advertising is essential.
How about banning ads for the Post Office (those stupid priority mail commercials) ... especially it’s sponsorship of professional cycling!
Well, put it there and fire it forward at 200 mph.
That'll liven up the race!
I did. Wound up being a linguist, though. Not quite certain how I let myself be talked into that one, considering I loved mechanics and mechanical things, and hated sitting in class. I can't remember how long the jet engine mechanic school was, but it certainly wasn't 18 months like the linguist courses. I was already at the MEPS for in-processing and getting my ticket to Lackland.
I may have even made a career out of it had I stayed with my first choice. I would have had nearly 24 years in by now.
You might want to re-think that assertion. You are seriously of the mind that funding for military recruiting should be nixed? I seriously doubt you are.
I assure you if this is an online peer to peer game they know. If they don't then G_d help us all.
The military ads budges must be saved for the san franceeeesco market.
What does she think the jet flyovers do? those are mega recruiting.
Does she want to stop the honor guard jet flyovers at arlington too?
The military is voluntary.. if you dont’ market you don’t get recruits. Like it or not that’s reality.
We could always return to conscription and stop all military advertising tomorrow.