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Iowa wrestling standout refuses to face girl
Associated Press ^ | 2/17/11 | LUKE MEREDITH

Posted on 02/17/2011 2:03:09 PM PST by Nachum

DES MOINES, Iowa – A standout Iowa high school wrestler refused to compete against a girl at the state tournament on Thursday, relinquishing any chance of becoming a champion because he says wrestling a girl would conflict with his religious beliefs.

Joel Northrup, a home-schooled sophomore who was 35-4 wrestling for Linn-Mar High School this season, praised his first-round opponent, Cedar Falls freshman Cassy Herkelman, and Ottumwa sophomore Megan Black, who became the first two girls to make the state wrestling tournament in its 85-year history.

But in a news release, he said he defaulted on his match with Herkelman because he doesn't think boys and girls should compete in the sport.

"I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cassy and Megan and their accomplishments. However, wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times," said Northrup. "As a matter of conscience and my faith I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner. It is unfortunate that I have been placed in a situation not seen in most other high school sports in Iowa."

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Can't agree with the kid, even though I sympathize him him. The best way to get girls/women out of contact sports with men is to destroy them completely on the field/mat/ice. If they can take it fine, if not- stay the hell out. That's why women won't get on an NBA court. The men show them no mercy.
1 posted on 02/17/2011 2:03:11 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

So you want a Christian kid to go against his principles just to prove a point? No, he did the right thing.
No gentleman, in the best sense of the word, whups up on a girl, not to mention the “groping” that happens in the sport of wrestling.


2 posted on 02/17/2011 2:05:43 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Nachum

Actually it’s a no win situation for the guy. If he wins it’s like, “Bid deal. You beat a girl”. If he loses its, “Ha Ha you got beat by a girl!”.


3 posted on 02/17/2011 2:06:20 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Pining_4_TX

The idea that he would even be facing a female in wrestling is absurd; do they get to select which sports they compete with males in and which they don’t?


4 posted on 02/17/2011 2:07:26 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Pining_4_TX

I agree. Way back in the day I went to state 3times taking it twice and I really think I would have not been able to go against a girl. Nothing against the girl just how I was raised.


5 posted on 02/17/2011 2:07:26 PM PST by blarney
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To: Nachum

I doubt the kid will lose to the girls. If he had gone to the mat with her, all hell would break lose and the kid will be vilified as a perv. He said it best “It can get violent”.


6 posted on 02/17/2011 2:07:39 PM PST by max americana
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To: Pining_4_TX
he doesn't think boys and girls should compete in the sport.

Just curious what the basis for this is.

7 posted on 02/17/2011 2:07:39 PM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: blarney

I wonder if they let boys play softball in this school association.


8 posted on 02/17/2011 2:08:34 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Nachum

Cassy Herkelman tries to turn Lucas Brockman of West High during their match Thursday. Herkelman would eventually get her first pin of her varsity career, improving her record to 3-2. (photo by Eric VanSickle/Cedar Falls Times)


9 posted on 02/17/2011 2:09:02 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Nachum

So what is going to happen when she matches up with a male that decides to show here why she shouldn’t be wrestling with the guys? Even in an instance where there was no malice, if he gets hurt badly I can forsee a uproar about her being injured by a male wrestler. How many lawsuits will be filed by her family? I purposely did not say parents. Parents would not let their daughter fight with males.


10 posted on 02/17/2011 2:09:56 PM PST by NationalistVisionary (Who will be America's Charles Martel?)
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To: Nachum
"We believe in the elevation and respect of woman and we don't think that wrestling a woman is the right thing to do. Body slamming and takedowns, that full contact sport is not how to do that."

There is nothing disrespectful in wrestling. Just the opposite, one develops respect by competing against she/he.

Life is hard, good look competing against women in the workforce.

11 posted on 02/17/2011 2:10:11 PM PST by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Nachum
I must be real ol' fashioned, but wrestling with a female as a "sport" to me is reminiscent of the Anika Sorenstam fiasco at The Masters Golf Tournament.

Of course, I've seen women that could compete in the Heavy Weight Division, and the guy would be hard-pressed to even get a grip on HER!

Anyway, there are some things nature planned that cannot be un-done.....each gender has its strong points, notwithstanding the mal-adjusted sex deviates who believe otherwise. (NO TWO HOMOSEXUALS HAVE EVER PRODUCED THEIR OWN OFFSPRING, PERIOD).

12 posted on 02/17/2011 2:10:16 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: icwhatudo

equality only goes one direction.

I find it funny how all this equality never actually means equality.


13 posted on 02/17/2011 2:10:55 PM PST by blarney
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To: Nachum

Wonder what femihag genius decided he hat to wrestle a girl. Good for him standing up for what is right. There is no way to pin her w/o inappropriate touching.

Pray for America


14 posted on 02/17/2011 2:11:28 PM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: Nachum
That's why women won't get on an NBA court. The men show them no mercy.

It has less to do with mercy and more to do with ability. Women can't compete with men at the NBA level. A woman, Ann Meyer, was drafted by an NBA team many years ago. More as a publicity stunt than anthing else.

15 posted on 02/17/2011 2:11:36 PM PST by kabar
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To: Nachum

I agree with the wrestler. This equality is just a one-way street. Females are allowed on male sports but males are prohibited in female competition. Wrestling is a very close and personal sport. Mixing genders at the high school level is ridiculous. Females have plenty of other sports.


16 posted on 02/17/2011 2:11:43 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: NationalistVisionary

if SHE gets hurt

dang it.


17 posted on 02/17/2011 2:11:54 PM PST by NationalistVisionary (Who will be America's Charles Martel?)
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To: Nachum

Why the hell is this young man being forced into this corner?

It’s outrageous that he’s required to wrestle a woman. What kind of d-bags are governing these matters?


18 posted on 02/17/2011 2:11:57 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: NationalistVisionary
So what is going to happen when she matches up with a male that decides to show here why she shouldn’t be wrestling with the guys?

She's going to get pinned to two seconds flat- and a lot of bruises. AND- it gets worse at the college level. Then men are flat out vicious.

19 posted on 02/17/2011 2:12:42 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

hopefully she doesn’t ever have to match up with the “fingers up the butt” guy


20 posted on 02/17/2011 2:16:01 PM PST by NationalistVisionary (Who will be America's Charles Martel?)
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To: Artemis Webb

Yep


21 posted on 02/17/2011 2:16:12 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Nachum

Why do want them to do this in the arena of public school sports? The parents will sue the damn school and everyone in the town will pay.


22 posted on 02/17/2011 2:16:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bray

Arm Bar...


23 posted on 02/17/2011 2:16:22 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks (YOU BETCHA!)
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To: Nachum
Wrestling with women.... this could lead to something very ugly.


24 posted on 02/17/2011 2:16:39 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Nachum

When I was in Taw Kwon Do I wouldn’t hit or kick a girl as hard as I would a man. In fact, they got more licks in on me than they would have if they were a guy.

I can’t say it was fair for them as I wasn’t going to be as aggressive physically as I would a man and they weren’t learning as much from me except that I was going to block them.

I took a kick to the head once, got knocked to the ground and I got up and let the girl have it and good. But I felt terrible about it afterward and just went back to pulling punches and kicks and blocking.

I don’t want to compete with a woman in a contact sport.

It isn’t ever going to fair.

Good for the kid but, sad he will forfeit his chance at a state trophy.


25 posted on 02/17/2011 2:17:55 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Nachum

I understand girls’ basketball is also very popular in Iowa. Until boys are allowed to go out for girls’ basketball and other girls’ sports, incidents such as these are nothing but discrimination against boys.

I’m sure some boys who can’t make their high school boys’ team would like to go out for the girls’ team.


26 posted on 02/17/2011 2:18:03 PM PST by Will88
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To: kabar
A woman, Ann Meyer, was drafted by an NBA team many years ago. More as a publicity stunt than anthing else.

I was thinking of her specifically when I said the NBA. I saw her work outs. The men took it down the lane and she got clobbered. Over and over again. She didn't last long at all.

At its higher levels, collegiate wrestling is a blood sport.

27 posted on 02/17/2011 2:19:12 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I really don’t think that girls belong in men’s wrestling. In the circumstances, he did the right thing.

Some sports, like tennis or golf, fine. But not a close contact sport like wrestling.

It just isn’t right for kids to be involved with something like that, especially not to make it effectively mandatory.


28 posted on 02/17/2011 2:19:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Huck

I would imagine it is due to the close contact, the violence, and the necessity of having to grab some young lady’s crotch on occasion. Even if the young lady in question does not have a problem with this, it violates the principles that this Christian teen was taught.

It amazes me how modern society is trying to erase the distinctions between the sexes. Feminists have always denied reality in the name of emancipating women, and young girls have been harmed the most. It has gone way beyond the point of women being able to pursue a desired career to where women are now expected to behave like men.


29 posted on 02/17/2011 2:20:12 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: Huck

As a matter of conscience and my faith I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner.

It would appear it is is conscience and his faith.


30 posted on 02/17/2011 2:20:22 PM PST by Jolla
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To: Palter
"There is nothing disrespectful in wrestling. Just the opposite, one develops respect by competing against she/he. "

"She/he"?? Or do you mean "He/she?"

31 posted on 02/17/2011 2:20:47 PM PST by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: Nachum

He was raised to respect women and be a gentleman. I think he would feel like he was abusing a woman if he went all out at them in a wrestling contest.

I get it.


32 posted on 02/17/2011 2:21:37 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Nachum

if she is 20-13 in Iowa Wrestling, the girl is no pushover..


33 posted on 02/17/2011 2:22:30 PM PST by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
It amazes me how modern society is trying to erase the distinctions between the sexes. Feminists have always denied reality in the name of emancipating women, and young girls have been harmed the most. It has gone way beyond the point of women being able to pursue a desired career to where women are now expected to behave like men.

a male throws her down on the mat and feminists are ok with it. If a male throws her down in the hallway at school and they will want him hanged.

34 posted on 02/17/2011 2:23:58 PM PST by NationalistVisionary (Who will be America's Charles Martel?)
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To: Nachum
my son had to wrestle a girl when he was in middle school. He showed her no mercy and won the match but was pissed that she was able to score one escape point on him. The girl continued to wrestle through high school and was nationally ranked as a female free style wrestler.
35 posted on 02/17/2011 2:24:30 PM PST by virginia lurker
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To: Nachum

Butt drag.


36 posted on 02/17/2011 2:25:45 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Nachum

He’d do it if oil were involved


37 posted on 02/17/2011 2:27:27 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: Nachum

Why the heck is a woman competing with men in a full-contact sport like this? Shouldn’t even be legal! Football, maybe. Basketball, ok. Baseball, ok. Wrestling? Are they out of their minds?


38 posted on 02/17/2011 2:28:19 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Nachum

I think young Mr Northrup shows himself a conscientious man and a well-spoken one as well. I wish we had ten million like him.


39 posted on 02/17/2011 2:29:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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To: NationalistVisionary

“a male throws her down on the mat and feminists are ok with it. If a male throws her down in the hallway at school and they will want him hanged.”

Ah, how true!


40 posted on 02/17/2011 2:29:24 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: virginia lurker
Good for your son.

I knew another girl who wrestled on a boys team in here in California. She's the daughter of a friend of ours. She was pretty good too, had a winning record.

There are seldom outlets for women's wrestling on the high school level. She eventually wrestled in College for about a year and was nationally ranked for women's collegiate wrestling. Her team mates 'adopted' her and watched over her like she was their sister.

Now she's into Karate. :)

41 posted on 02/17/2011 2:29:24 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I know this kids dad, and this kids pastor posted this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2675399/posts


42 posted on 02/17/2011 2:30:58 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: A CA Guy
I get it.

You'd be amazed at how many don't.

They seem to believe a guy can be conditioned to to put 'em on a pedestal one minute, then take 'em down & half-nelson pin 'em the next.

43 posted on 02/17/2011 2:31:34 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Nachum

I wrestled 7th 8th and 9th and was undefeated in the city. Even at that age, I broke a kids arm once, I was mean. I went out for track in high school, those high school wrestlers were animals.

If this was a true high school level match, the boy should have just crushed the girl. All you have to do is watch the difference between boys and girls high school basketball to know the potential outcome.


44 posted on 02/17/2011 2:34:24 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Vendome

That should have read Tae Kwon Do...

Fat fingers today.


45 posted on 02/17/2011 2:37:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: DaxtonBrown
If this was a true high school level match, the boy should have just crushed the girl. All you have to do is watch the difference between boys and girls high school basketball to know the potential outcome

Exactly.

46 posted on 02/17/2011 2:38:44 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

[She’s going to get pinned to two seconds flat- and a lot of bruises.]

Or worse. I broke a kids arm and that was just an 8th grade match.


47 posted on 02/17/2011 2:38:55 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Nachum; The Comedian; Slings and Arrows; Revolting cat!

48 posted on 02/17/2011 2:40:21 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: DaxtonBrown
I understand.

I also wrestled in Jr. High and High School a witnessed some very nasty injuries. Heck, our state ranked high school soccer team was nasty. I played 4 years of high school soccer and three years in college. Saw horrible bone breaking injuries there too. We had NO problem with females wanting to play with us. They saw the contact/blood and wanted no part of it.

49 posted on 02/17/2011 2:43:35 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Huck
It's a contact sport. Many of us don't believe "contact" with women is appropriate except under very special circumstances.

End of story.

People of a different opinion are perverts whose opinions in the matter need not be respected.

50 posted on 02/17/2011 2:43:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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