Posted on 02/17/2011 3:22:50 PM PST by OneVike
When it became apparent that his opponent in the state tournament wrestling match would be a girl., e would be facing off against a girl, Joel Northrup, forfeited his match to her. As a Christian, Joel is serious about his faith, and so he could not in good conscience wrestle with a girl due to the manner in which a wrestler must grapple with their opponent. If only we had more boys raised to respect the fairer sex as much as Joel has been. His parents are homeschooling him. but he has been allowed to wrestle with the Lin-Mar of Marion Iowa. So Cassy Herkelman of Cedar Falls was able to win her first match at the Iowa State High School Athletic Association State Wrestling Tournament at Wells Fargo Arena on Wednesday, Feb. 17, 2011.
"I have a tremendous amount of respect for Cassy and Megan (Black, the tournament's other female entrant) and their accomplishments. However, wrestling is a combat sport and it can get violent at times. As a matter of conscience and my faith, I do not believe that it is appropriate for a boy to engage a girl in this manner. It is unfortunate that I have been placed in a situation not seen in most of the high school sports in Iowa."
Linn-Mar Athletic Director Scott Mahmens did speak with the media, (Video above ) and said Northrup's parents are not at the tournament. Mahmens added that nobody from the school tried to influence Northrup, who is home schooled, to wrestle or not wrestle.
"He's a Linn-Mar Lion, and we're going to support what he's doing," Mahmens said. "Obviously his beliefs are more important to him (than a chance at a state title)."
His coach Doug Streicher did not speak with the media after the match.
If you want to see the video of the Linn-Mar Athletic Director Scott Mahmens, then follow the link below.
Wrestler Forfeits Match Against a Girl
As a former wrestler from a champion high school program, I’ve never understood the female wrestling thing. I respect this young man’s decision. (I probably would’ve never faced a female wrestler because I wrestled at a higher weight class.) It’s a shame he took a loss this way at the state tournament and can only hope to battle back to a 3rd place finish. It seemed like half the guys doing the weigh-ins were in their underwear or naked in order to make weight. How do you handle that with a female? They don’t let guys play softball or girl’s basketball...girls shouldn’t be wrestling guys.
whats a liberal look like?
Its probably a bit different if your focus is more on self defence. I do (well, its a bit sporadic these days) Shorinji Kan Jiu Jitsu, and the emphais is on self defence and not on sport. That being the case, if you are training with a girl you aren’t doing her any favours by not attacking her properly so that she can learn to defend herself properly (she may found herself in a situation were she will indeed have to fight off a big hairy bloke after all).
It is also good for a man to get used to the idea of potentially having to hit a woman in self defence. Although it is true they are generally weaker, they aren’t all delicate little creatures, and they can pose a tangible threat even to a guy. When I lived in Preston as a student, a man in his 40s was set upon by a gang of youths and beaten to death a few hundred yards from were I lived. A friend I know who works for the police told me that the blow that killed him came as the result of a stilleto that went through his eye and into his brain as he lay on the ground...
Something like that happened in New Jersey back in the 1980s, when a female student won a landmark court case for the right to play on a high school football team. She was seriously injured during her first or second season and ended up filing another lawsuit against the school and coach — for making her play a “dangerous” position on the team, or some nonsense like that.
“If you win, it’s “So what, you beat a girl,” and if you lose, Lord help you.”
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That’s what I told a young guy at work once, he was joking around as if he was challenging me to fight. I said, “you realize of course that you can’t possibly win a fight with an old man, don’t you?” He asked why I thought that and I told him, “If you kick my butt people will condemn you for picking on an old man and if I kick your butt you will never live it down.”
The most memorable one was the first line in the Book of Genesis: "In the big inning, God created heaven and earth."
LOL.
I think another one was from the Book of Numbers: "Every man of Israel shall pitch by his father's house," or something like that. Another one from the Old Testament was about some kind of infestation of insects: "And He sent many flies among them, and they caught every one."
I think the whole problem is only aggravated by TV shows in which some gorgeous 105 pound super model type is shown whipping up on 3 or more 210 pound body builder/martial artist type men without messing up her hair. Some people seem to actually believe all that garbage.
As in the post below you i did right?
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Some years back a fifty year old man was killed here by a gang of teenage girls. The motive was apparently robbery. I am learning to appreciate that I am six four with a large frame. I work out with weights regularly and do a lot of fast paced walking to stay in shape. I want to look as imposing as possible nowadays. Better they fear me than Vice Versa;>)
My son was a high school wrestler in Michigan for four years but fortunately he never had to wrestle against a girl. Most of the boys who have to endure this are in the 130 pound and under classes.
There is no way a boy wrestling a girl can win. Many coaches (especially at smaller schools) recruit girls. Small schools have trouble filling the lower weight slots and the super heavyweights. If a school has any wrestler at a weight level and the other doesn’t, it gets 6 points (the same as a pin).
Absolutely!
They do it here in MI. One of the guys on my son’s team drew a girl and took her out in the first round. I asked him how he did it.
He said “I just made like she was my sister”.
I really do not like it or understand parents who allow/encourage this.
I have always felt that the guys had an awful disadvantage because of the tendency to hesitate before doing some of the necassary holds—in front of an audience that is. At which point the girl wiped them out.
Some have made it to the State tournaments and I recall at least one who won.
Exactly. LOL.
He should have dominated her if he was capable and left no doubt that she could not compete with a good male wrestler.
Thanks for the ping!
I started my martial arts is standard 3 (third Grade) in Nairobi (started with Shotokan Karate), and the training was brutal. Bloody knuckles from hitting a makawara wrapped with some rather abrasive sisal rope, full contact Kumite that was like something out of some Kyokunshin Kaikan tournament (I still have marks on my legs), and no excuses. Almost more of a bujitsu (war art) than a Budo (focus more on the softer side). Even Goju-ryu senseis emphasized a lot of hard style in an otherwise soft-er (not by any means soft) art, with the Shotokan teachers being absolutely brutal. As for Tae Kwon Do, (if one ignores it coming from Korea while the Karates are Japanese/Okinawan) basically a faster Shotokan-esque style, with less overall power (you don't want to get punched by a Shotokan karateka), but vicious kicks (you don't want to get an axe kick from the Tae Kwon Do guys I know). Anyways, the thought of sparring with a female, and without any disrespect, would have been frowned on ...not because of any misogyny, but simply because even the lighter guys (unless they were very fast) could (and did) end up with broken ribs. If I gave someone 2/3rds my weight a crescent kick and she tried to block it with her arm, or a straight punch to the chest, it may not go well for her. Thus I am surprised you were allowed to spar with ladies ...what if they tried to block a strike and you broke her arm?
Very surprised they allowed that. I can understand wrestling (or say Brazilian/Japanese jujitsu/judo), where the only issue is putting your hands in the 'wrong' places (and assuming the sensei ensured proper weight classification for the lady and the guy, so that what you weight doesn't overplay your skill in the Dojo). However, Tae Kwon Do inter-sex sparring in the Dojang? That's a new one ....in most of the places I have been (outside the US), inter-sex sparring in any Karate Dojo, Tae Kwon Do Dojang, Muay Thai ring, etc, would be frowned upon. Having bleeding knuckles is one thing, making half the face of the girl in the Dojo swell is another.
You realize of course that only the insane would think it wise at all to have girls compete with boys in wrestling, right?
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