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Karl Rove Knocks 'Birthers,' Says GOP Should Focus on 'Real Issues'
Politics Daily ^ | 2/17/11 | Chris Weber

Posted on 02/17/2011 5:16:22 PM PST by pissant

Urging conservatives to focus on "real issues," Karl Rove said Republicans should speak out against those in the party who question whether President Obama is a citizen of the United States.

The GOP strategist said whatever percentage of Republicans are so-called "birthers," it "ought to be less."

He made the comments in an interview with Bill O'Reilly on Fox News, where Rove is a regular commentator. "Within our party, we've got to be very careful about allowing these people who are the birthers and the 9/11-deniers to get too high a profile and say too much without setting the record straight," Rove said.

Birthers believe Obama is not native-born and therefore is ineligible to be president. Hawaii officials have repeatedly issued statements that Obama was born in the state and that the health department holds a copy of his original birth certificate. A copy of the document has been made available on the Internet.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicsdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; karlrove; kookiesnmilk; loonsnest; molehill; naturalborncitizen; ntsa; rino; stfu; tokyorove; troll; wrldsdmbstcnsprcy
Karl and Sarah are the same page at last
1 posted on 02/17/2011 5:16:31 PM PST by pissant
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

ping


2 posted on 02/17/2011 5:17:36 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

I don’t think anyone should take Karl Rove seriously anymore, and I’m not talking about this issue.


3 posted on 02/17/2011 5:18:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: pissant

I sat through BOR and Rove last night and somehow didn’t put my foot through the TV! I don’t know when I’ve been more angry at two people who, I am sure know that they are not speaking the truth!


4 posted on 02/17/2011 5:20:42 PM PST by WellyP
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To: GeronL
I haven't taken him seriously in a long time....
...I mute him
5 posted on 02/17/2011 5:22:04 PM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: pissant

So political “genius” Karl Rove plays into the Dem and MSM playbook by suggesting that the national Republican Party is making Obama’s place of birth an issue. It isn’t but the Dems sure are trying to suggest that they are. Now “Master Political Strategist” Rove has helped them in their campaign.


6 posted on 02/17/2011 5:22:09 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: WellyP

And you had the pleasure of paying for it.


7 posted on 02/17/2011 5:22:25 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: pissant

O’reilly is a POS, Fox al Waleed Bin Tal is covering for their boy and Rove is another POS.


8 posted on 02/17/2011 5:23:59 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

If Barak Sr. is truly the babydaddy, then it doesn’t matter where Barry was born - he ain’t eligible.

Crike- I swore I wasn’t going to do this any more....


9 posted on 02/17/2011 5:24:06 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san
If Barak Sr. is truly the babydaddy, then it doesn’t matter where Barry was born - he ain’t eligible. Crike- I swore I wasn’t going to do this any more....

Consider this a friendly intervention to that end, because you could not be more wrong.

10 posted on 02/17/2011 5:27:07 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Sioux-san

You’re still right, even if it is getting tiring to point it out


11 posted on 02/17/2011 5:28:27 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: kbennkc
"Consider this a friendly intervention to that end, because you could not be more wrong"

Could you please enlighten all of us who think that a Natural Born Citizen means you are the product of an American Citizen father, and an American Citizen Mother (having been of age for the required period of time)?

12 posted on 02/17/2011 5:30:26 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: kbennkc

wrong about?


13 posted on 02/17/2011 5:31:09 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: kbennkc

Please produce a credible record documenting Onada’s place of birth.


14 posted on 02/17/2011 5:32:49 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: pissant

I began thinking that Karl Rove was a jerk some time ago, when he worked so hard to back such wonderful candidates as Arnold Schwarzenneger, Lincoln Chaffee, and Arnold Specter in the primaries.


15 posted on 02/17/2011 5:38:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: traditional1
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

16 posted on 02/17/2011 5:44:25 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: GeronL

Who pays Rove?


17 posted on 02/17/2011 5:46:05 PM PST by lonestar
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To: dools0007world

18 posted on 02/17/2011 5:47:19 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: kbennkc

Might suffice for a Senator or Congressman, the POTUS is required to be a Natural Born Citizen.


19 posted on 02/17/2011 5:47:21 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: kbennkc
How about this (in US Law very clearly states: ‘. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 14.’ )

Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen is a fact. At the time of Barack’s birth, his father was a British subject in the British colony of Kenya and that British citizenship was Obama’s until at least the age of 21. At the age of 21, Obama likely held both Indonesian (as he had been legally adopted by his Indonesian step-father Lolo Soetoro) and British citizenship. Twice in Indonesian primary school records (1967-71) Barack is listed as an Indonesian citizen.

Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years-prior-to Barack Obama’s birth, but-after-age-14. In essence, his Mother as the sole U.S. parent is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship.

At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 14 + 5 = 19 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Obama had to be naturalized to become a U.S. citizen and that disqualifies him from holding the office of POTUS or Vice POTUS. The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President or Vice President. Barack Hussein Obama II is now an American citizen by his marriage to Michelle Robinson.

Precedent-setting subsequent Rulings):

20 posted on 02/17/2011 5:48:42 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Might suffice for a Senator or Congressman, the POTUS is required to be a Natural Born Citizen.

Sounds like you have him by the short hairs. Drag him to Kenya.

21 posted on 02/17/2011 5:49:55 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: traditional1

That provision has application only for those babies born outside of the United States.


22 posted on 02/17/2011 5:52:02 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: kbennkc
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401 § 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

That's wonderful, except you're confusing "Citizen" with "Natural Born Citizen", which is a common error.

According to your "theory", Anchor Babies are eligible for the U.S. Presidency, as Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III, Part 1, § 1401, (a) is the clause that was wrongly interpreted to allow Anchor Babies, which is a whole nother story.....

23 posted on 02/17/2011 5:53:48 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: kbennkc
Sounds like you have him by the short hairs. Drag him to Kenya.

Sounds like you could give a crap about the Constitution, hope you're enjoying the destruction of America.

24 posted on 02/17/2011 5:54:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: pissant
Is this the best you could come up with today pissy. And how about your hero Michelle Bachmann . Is she on the same page?
25 posted on 02/17/2011 5:56:33 PM PST by McGruff (If you tell a lie enough times some people will come to believe it.)
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To: pissant

FOKR!

You are still a boil on the Republican Party in need of lancing.

Take that Pro Arab College Republican dork Grover Norquist with you and retire to some beach.

You were once Frat boys but now you are mere Fat boys.


26 posted on 02/17/2011 5:57:37 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Sounds like you could give a crap about the Constitution, hope you're enjoying the destruction of America.

Go to a law library instead or Corsi's website.

27 posted on 02/17/2011 6:01:15 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: pissant

The greedy bastard is running his mouth again to hustle his establishment GOP clients into thinking he can get them reelected in 2012.


28 posted on 02/17/2011 6:02:55 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: kbennkc

Why would I need to do that?


29 posted on 02/17/2011 6:05:53 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: pissant

“Real Issues” code for remaining the Democrat’s whipping boy whie they sit back and count their money. a/k/a the Democrat’s whore.


30 posted on 02/17/2011 6:09:41 PM PST by sport
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To: pissant

I’m not getting this. Why does wanting to see a long form BC make someone a “birther” ie nut case. Seems like a reallly simple and legitimate request.


31 posted on 02/17/2011 6:16:51 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: pissant

Perpetuation through reverse psychology perhaps?


32 posted on 02/17/2011 6:17:18 PM PST by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: pissant

It is a real issue and they know it.


33 posted on 02/17/2011 6:25:18 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dools0007world
Please produce a credible record documenting Onada’s place of birth.

1) Show that Obama is a natural born US citizen, 2) then show that he did not attend Occidental College as a foreign student, 3) then show which country's passport he used when he traveled to Pakistan as a youth, and 4) then tell us how he got a Connecticut Social Security Number without ever having lived there. Do those four things and I will believe that he is not a gutless liar.

34 posted on 02/17/2011 6:46:09 PM PST by JoeGar
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To: freekitty

Rove should just take the fifth and shut up about it. He was probably involved in covering up the fraud and is desparate to keep this from investigation. He doth protest too much.


35 posted on 02/17/2011 6:58:22 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: pissant
I have three wishes:

1. TOKYO ROVE - STFU!

2. SOUR KRAUTHAMMER - STFU!

3. BAG O' ROCKS O'REILLY - STFU!
36 posted on 02/17/2011 7:43:11 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: SaraJohnson
"... He was probably involved in covering up the fraud and is desperate to keep this from investigation".

"You are closer than you think".- film 'JFK'

It's not just Rove that are in the target sites. There are so many conspirators (aiding and abetting in deliberate usurpation/sedition of the COTUS)that it will reduce the population of DC when they are put away. Too many to let 'em pass GO so some ones are gonna burn for this crime.

37 posted on 02/17/2011 7:49:46 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: SaraJohnson
"... He was probably involved in covering up the fraud and is desperate to keep this from investigation".

"You are closer than you think".- film 'JFK'

It's not just Rove that are in the target sites. There are so many conspirators (aiding and abetting in deliberate usurpation/sedition of the COTUS)that it will reduce the population of DC when they are put away. Too many to let 'em pass GO so some ones are gonna burn for this crime.

38 posted on 02/17/2011 7:50:07 PM PST by SonsOfCollins_Wallace ("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
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To: pissant

Tokyo Rove. Still trying to tell us all what to think. Who even listens to that guy anymore? He and Bill O’Reilly need to go sit in a corner.


39 posted on 02/17/2011 8:21:54 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: pissant
Foxtrot Uniform Kilo Romeo, over.

There's only one way to stop a Republican Landslide. Hire Rove.

40 posted on 02/17/2011 8:26:49 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (With a friend like Obama, a country needs no enemies.)
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To: SonsOfCollins_Wallace

Yes. But, only the ones who led, planned and delivered the coverup strategy have to worry about questions of criminality. Rove having run the GOP from the White House during Bush’s terms in office, most likely fits that bill along with McLame and maybe (but I hope not!) Palin. Any Republican involved in any top meeting where a conspiracy to commit treason was hatched is better off in Egypt with the tender mercies of the Muslim Brotherhood if their crime is ever exposed and it creates a constitutional crisis for our country on top of everything else they have done.

Democrats protect their criminals with all they got. Republicans don’t. There won’t be a “bi-partisan” protection racket if a court goes after them and reasserts the constitution as the law of this land. They think they are above the constitution as long as they all agree and stick together in the crimes of violating it.


41 posted on 02/17/2011 8:26:50 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: pissant

Rove is the reason I no longer identify as a Republican or send money to Republican groups.

He can take his country club, business as usual brand of conservatism and shove it.


42 posted on 02/18/2011 1:29:13 AM PST by M1911A1
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To: pissant
I'm confused!

Hawaii officials have repeatedly issued statements that Obama was born in the state and that the health department holds a copy of his original birth certificate.
Shouldn't the health department hold the original birth certificate instead of a copy of it?

A copy of the document has been made available on the Internet.
(hey, Chris, try looking up abstract birth certificate)
First Time Applicants (passports)
*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.
Oooooookay. If you think that'll fly then have at it.

So if the health department has a copy of the original BC then shouldn't that original be what should have been made available on the Internet instead of an abstract?

43 posted on 02/18/2011 1:41:55 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: pissant

How much more proof do people need to see that the Republican and Democrat Parties are two wings of the same bird of prey.


44 posted on 02/18/2011 12:21:53 PM PST by Roninf5-1 (If ignorance is bliss why are so many Americans on anti-depressants?)
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To: philman_36; butterdezillion; LucyT

see #43, just in case you missed it..


45 posted on 02/22/2011 6:04:14 PM PST by bitt ( ..Congress - either investigate Obama ...or yourselves, for complicity)
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To: bitt
just in case you missed it..

Check out the info being used further.
Mario Marroquin – Born In A House Denied a Passort Despite Having Birth Certificate. (& Obama COLB)
3/4 down article.
Leo reads FR?

46 posted on 02/22/2011 11:17:33 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Leo BETTER read FR..

:)


47 posted on 02/23/2011 5:51:13 AM PST by bitt ( ..Congress - either investigate Obama ...or yourselves, for complicity)
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