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9 L.I Gun Shop Employees Charged With Selling Assault Weapons
nbcnewyork.com ^ | 17 Feb 2011 | unattributed

Posted on 02/17/2011 5:29:40 PM PST by smokingfrog

Nine people on Long Island have been accused of illegally selling assault weapons that had been modified to appear as if they were no longer semi-automatic.

Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice said Thursday that five Nassau gun shops sold assault weapons to undercover officers during the course of a 10-month investigation. Four store owners and five employees of the stores have been arrested and charged, Rice said.

One suspect, Martin Tretola of Bellmore, "went so far as to demonstrate to undercover officers how to remove a temporary fixed stock and replace it with a collapsible one," Rice said.

Under state law, only law enforcement and certain members of the military are legally permitted to possess assault weapons, defined in New York as guns that reload automatically, hold more than 10 rounds or accept detachable magazines.

Authorities said the weapons were rigged so that they would no longer automatically reload -- a fix that was easy to reverse.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnewyork.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: assaultrifle; banglist; scaryguns
If convicted, each of those arrested faces up to seven years in prison. Each business faces up to a $10,000 fine per felony or double the company's gain from the criminal conduct.
1 posted on 02/17/2011 5:29:42 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

The article is lies.
These legit shops where taking non NY Ban compliant semi autos and making them compliant with Fubar NY laws BEFORE selling them.


2 posted on 02/17/2011 5:34:57 PM PST by omega4179
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To: smokingfrog

So, in NY a Ruger 10/22 is an assault rifle?


3 posted on 02/17/2011 5:37:43 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: smokingfrog
""went so far as to demonstrate to undercover officers how to remove a temporary fixed stock and replace it with a collapsible one," "

Is this really Rocket Science that a high school dropout couldn't figure out for himself?

4 posted on 02/17/2011 5:39:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: smokingfrog

Well we all know how dangerous and evil a collapsible stock can be. That’s not an assault rifle, that’s a WMD. The Horror!!!

The UN must propose a collapsible stock ban immediately!!


5 posted on 02/17/2011 5:40:06 PM PST by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: omega4179

That’s kind of what it sounded like to me.


6 posted on 02/17/2011 5:44:25 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: muir_redwoods

well i guess my 22-306-ect are assault weapons who would have thunk it


7 posted on 02/17/2011 5:46:18 PM PST by jessky
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To: Paladin2

We must all band together to never subject our families and friends to the unspeakable tragedies of the gruesome collapsible stocks.


8 posted on 02/17/2011 5:46:51 PM PST by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: smokingfrog

So all other serious crime has been eradicate in the island?

are they still charging money to see the pathetic Islanders?


9 posted on 02/17/2011 5:47:55 PM PST by rahbert
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To: smokingfrog

Sounds like the reporter has no grasp whatsoever of firearms or the local firearm laws.


10 posted on 02/17/2011 6:02:21 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: smokingfrog

If the collapsing stocks are forbidden are we safe from a repeat performance of 2008 on Wall Street?


11 posted on 02/17/2011 6:05:09 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt
I think you are on to something.

LI is so close to Manhattan that the collapsing stocks could easily be smuggled across the bridges and through the subway tunnels directly to Wall Street.

12 posted on 02/17/2011 6:14:16 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: smokingfrog

When collapsable stocks are outlawed, only outlaws will have collapsable stocks.


13 posted on 02/17/2011 6:19:14 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: USMCPOP

I lived in LI for years. People there have very little exposure to arms unless they are in certain trades.

Nobody I knew had a gun, unless it was an old collectors piece - and if they did, they didn’t talk about it. The police respond quite fast in my area, and many liberal types just don’t see the need for self defense. I once called the cops because I heard a scream - they were at my door within two minutes.

When I moved to the south I was astounded by all the guns here. Heck, when I joined my first church the pastors wife started discussing her guns at the first bible study meeting.

It’s a different outlook. Guns are alien to the liberal culture. They really don’t “get” them. They’ve been safe for so long.


14 posted on 02/17/2011 6:19:41 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: davetex
If you're not careful, you might pinch your finger or pull-out some beard hair.


15 posted on 02/17/2011 6:19:51 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: smokingfrog
WTF is an "assault weapon?" I have a knife. Somebody calls it a "steak knife." If I only use it to cut bread, is it still a steak knife?

Refuse to let these assholes own the language!

16 posted on 02/17/2011 6:25:34 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: outofstyle
If a deranged man attacks someone with a hatchet, claw hammer, or baseball bat, do these items become assault weapons? Technically, they are weapons that were used in an assault.

For that matter, fists, elbows, feet, foreheads, and knees can also be considered assault weapons if used properly (or would it be improperly?) during a fight.

Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?

17 posted on 02/17/2011 6:31:57 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: smokingfrog

Here Now!!!

How did you get that picture of me? Now I have to go deep underground!!


18 posted on 02/17/2011 6:34:37 PM PST by davetex (All my weapons got melted by a meteor!! No Sh*t)
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To: smokingfrog

When do our beloved civil servants that are being laid off in the worst economy in their memory start pressuring the gubmint to re-direct its resources and put that into their pockets?

I’m not holding my breath.


19 posted on 02/17/2011 6:35:32 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Stonewall Jackson
If a deranged man attacks someone with a hatchet, claw hammer, or baseball bat, do these items become assault weapons? Technically, they are weapons that were used in an assault. For that matter, fists, elbows, feet, foreheads, and knees can also be considered assault weapons if used properly (or would it be improperly?) during a fight.

Actually, all of these things can be "dangerous weapons" in the criminal charge of "assault with a dangerous weapon". I prosecuted a person for assault with a dangerous weapon where the dangerous weapon was a pillow. Depends on how you use it.

20 posted on 02/17/2011 7:11:07 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: smokingfrog

Incredible they just need to stop impeding our 2nd amendment rights...this is insanity...


21 posted on 02/17/2011 7:12:51 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: smokingfrog

Dang, that looks a lot like one of the contractors who comes into my store each morning. About his mindset too.


22 posted on 02/17/2011 7:14:03 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Prokopton

Please tell me that the pillow was being used to smother someone, and that you didn’t prosecute someone for getting into a pillow fight?


23 posted on 02/17/2011 7:16:51 PM PST by Husker24
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To: davetex
We must all band together to never subject our families and friends to the unspeakable tragedies of the gruesome collapsible stocks.

I heard from a very knowledgable New York liberal, that if you fire a weapon with a collapsible stock, you can easily put out the sun.

24 posted on 02/17/2011 7:20:36 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: I still care

Thanks for the interesting take on guns in N.Y. I have known some Easterners, and just couldn’t understand their disdain for guns.


25 posted on 02/17/2011 7:24:50 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

DING DING DING We have a winner!!!!


26 posted on 02/17/2011 7:55:22 PM PST by WePledge (Semper Fidelis)
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To: I still care

“They really don’t “get” them.:

Yeah, I don’t really get the whole freak-out thing with “weapons” either. I keep thinking about the time when my folks sent my brother and I back to Ohio in the 60’s on an airplane for a summer visit to the family farm. We were unaccompanied minors. My brother and I carried our .22 rifles on board, and the stewardess was really helpful in stowing the guns in the coat closet. I don’t think I was more than 14 at the time. The bullets were probably in the zipper pocket on the side of the gun case, but it was no problem.


27 posted on 02/17/2011 8:55:30 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: muir_redwoods
So, in NY a Ruger 10/22 is an assault rifle?

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Nope. You can go to Sports Authority and buy one. But, if you change the stock to folding, add a pistol grip, flash supressor and use a mag that holds more than ten it is.

28 posted on 02/17/2011 9:04:18 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: smokingfrog

The county focused on the two most popular shops, T&T and Colisseum. I buy from both.


29 posted on 02/17/2011 9:10:27 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Paladin2

Not during the summer.

That’d take all day...


30 posted on 02/17/2011 11:15:52 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: smokingfrog

So it’s come to this: New York’s effing Leftist PC Gestapo is railroading ordinary citizens in violation of the Second Amendment - and there’s no public outcry?

The Founders are weeping in heaven.


31 posted on 02/18/2011 12:43:13 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: davetex; smokingfrog
How did you get that picture of me? Now I have to go deep underground!!

I didn't know I had a twin! Brother!

32 posted on 02/18/2011 5:55:17 AM PST by The Theophilus (Pray for Obama (Psalms 109:8))
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To: Jack Hammer
It's our fault. For not tar and feathering enough of them. For not hanging enough of them from the nearest oak tree. For not tossing enough of them completely out of our Country.

We failed to protect those Rights and now we are losing them.

33 posted on 02/18/2011 6:04:43 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: smokingfrog
Under state law, only law enforcement and certain members of the military are legally permitted to possess assault weapons, defined in New York as guns that reload automatically, hold more than 10 rounds or accept detachable magazines. Authorities said the weapons were rigged so that they would no longer automatically reload -- a fix that was easy to reverse.

Sounds like they were complying with the letter of the law. Unfortuantely in NY that doesn't ensure that they will get off scot free.
34 posted on 02/18/2011 12:59:01 PM PST by Dayman
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To: smokingfrog
...or pull-out some beard hair.

YEEEEEOOOOWWCHHH!! Gawd,...I hate that happens.

35 posted on 02/19/2011 11:05:06 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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