Skip to comments.Why the Supreme Court has been compelled to hold a new hearing on Obama’s eligibility.
Posted on 02/17/2011 8:31:53 PM PST by dalight
Drudge has linked this story from World Net Daily that notes the odd decision by the Supreme Court to hold a new conference on Obamas eligibility to hold the presidency.
Lets research WHY the court could be compelled to do this.
It MUST have something to do with the fact that Obama has no birth certificate on file in the Hawaiian Hall of Records with the name Barack Hussein Obama on it since his original Hawaiian birth certificate with that name was sealed in the 1970s when he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, his stepfather. At the time of adoption, a childs original birth certificate is sealed away and replaced in the Hall of Records by a new birth certificate that bears the adopted parents names and the childs new name, if a new name is given.
This is what happened to Obama, when he was renamed Soetobakh by his mother and stepfather at the time of adoption.
(Excerpt) Read more at hillbuzz.org ...
oh, there’s nothing to this birth certificate business...Bill O’Reilly says “The Factor” investigated and it’s “bogus”...
LOL, good one.
When BHO was adopted, Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.
Of course his real name is....
Baraq O Bamah
The Lightning from the Heights
When BHO was adopted, Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.
The question still remains which he(the author) along with others is there actual proof Obama or whatever his name may be was born in Hawaii.
Not one person has come up with proof. They always blurt out something or another theory; but never actually answer this question or show proof. So it remains the $64,000 question. Was Obama actually born in Hawaii?
Just answer the damn question. Was Obama actually born in Hawaii?
My God! ANOTHER alias! Barak Hussain “Soetobakh.” How many more aliases does this mystery man have? If only I could live to be 200 so I could be enlightened with the full story of this evil usurper.
That question is a distraction. The REAL question is whether he is an NBC. The facts on that issue almost incontrovertibly point to “NO.”
you mean the looking out for the folks O.R said he saw a newspaper announcment and that clear everything up, that O.R.?
What a complete idiot he is.
I guess he has never heard of putting in announcements to papers with no proof.
Why does he not ask the HI Gov why he could nto find it or why obama never showed it or even why he sealed his records or even why his own family said he was born over there or even why his wife said Baracks homeland Kenya?
Silly O.R. how can he possibly say he;s looking out for the folks.
He could break a world wide story here and make a name world wide and go down in history but no he’s a coward like his pal Hannity
Bill O’Reilly is a POS and a puppet for his boss at FOX Prince Al Waleed bin Tal. I assume your were joking because BOR the sex pervert is a joke.
The number of obastard’s (see tagy) ecords that are sealed is truly amazing.
Seen some theories why the left is suddenly pounding on the “birther” issue. Rope-a-dope? Political ploy? I say no. It’s to distract from something truly d@mning in the other records. Classic Sun Tzu.
The OTHER records are where the real meat is, IMHO.
why not ask why he never changed his name from his muslim name.?
What a bunch of cowards we have in our corrupt biased media and yet this guy and Hannity say they’re looking out for us.
got into an argument about how smart obama is with this idiot not a liberal but just an idiot who watches local news.
It was about how smart obama is and how dumb Bush was.
When I asked what grades obama got they had no clue.
I then asked why does obama not want us to see his school grades and all she could say was I don’t know.
Have to hand it to our corrupt media, they really have been good at their propaganda
If his “birth” father was Kenyan and thus a British Subject... and his “adopted” father was Indonesian and thus...well.. Indonesian... how can Zero claim to be of “natural born parents”??
I thought that your mother and father HAD to be US citizens in order to be considered “natural born parents”??
Even “if” he was born in Hawaii, his father was not American. If that is the case, is he eligible to be an American president. I thought that both parents have to be American citizens to be a natural born citizen of the US.
That’s crazy. You basically asked the exact same question that I did 2 seconds later!
This guy has so very many names!
He’s a muslim, too, isn’t he?
That’s a new one I haven’t seen before!
Though this is certainly true, it only a part of the current kerfuffle. Obama and company hide this and they concentrate on the Birth Certificate because they can haul out this piece of crap and dare folks to make a beef about it which folks apparently have decided will fall somewhere in the gray area when they consider the wrong name issue by itself. The problem is that it is likely the SOB may not even be a Citizen in spite of the ease it would have been to re-establish it. Or perhaps he is, but under his legal name, not BHO.
Worse, he very likely took advantage of foreign tuition breaks when he went to college, hence, the hiding of these records. It is a house of cards.
“What a bunch of cowards we have in our corrupt biased media and yet this guy and Hannity say theyre looking out for us.
Americans have been dumbed down to moron level.
That is why I left.
If Americans do not wake up, there will be no America by 2012.
This is another question that just aches. Everything seems to be consistent with the proposed explanation that Obama's original Hawaii Birth Certificate was a result of a affidavit filed by his grandparents.
Me neither. Haven’t of that name before. We truly are screwed that this POSUS has so many different aliases.
The funny thing is that if you read the State Department's own manual on citizenship they specifically separate the definition of Natural Born citizen from Naturalized and Birthright Citizenship.
What I wasn’t aware of that DuJan points out in his post on Hillbuzz is that at least 10 states, with more on the horizon, are underway to enacting a legislative requirement to provide a Certificate of Live Birth for name access to that’s state’s ballot. I had no idea it was 10 or more. I’d read the White House was extremely concerned about this. They planned on having only 1 or 2 states enact this requirement and then label them as racist states. But when 10 or more plan on it, then the “racist” brush won’t paint a swath that wide and resonate.
Anyone know which states are thinking of doing this, and are any of them close enough to getting it done?
Special Agent to Obama supporters:
"I am looking for the Imposters REAL birth certificate."
You could be right. I thought a President can not have ever held citizenship in another country. Maybe that is what they are hiding, Indonesian passport?
Soetobakh”...for some reason when I say that name in my head I hear Jabba the Hutt’s voice saying it
Ultimately, folks smell a rat, and even if this is nothing, the possibility exists that someone else would play this game so its worth dealing with. Frankly, the last few election cycles saw several candidates who were ineligible on the ballot in several states. The system has relied on the national parties guaranteeing the person's eligibility and this has come into question, so the only rational response is to do what states do for everyone else, say "Show me."
“if you read the State Department’s own manual on citizenship they specifically separate the definition of Natural Born citizen from Naturalized and Birthright Citizenship.”
Really? Do you have a copy? Or is it online?
I know that there are three types of statutory citizenship: native born (born in the U.S. to legal residents); citizenship-by-statute (born overseas to one or two U.S. citizen parents); and naturalization (foreign-born but naturalized as citizen).
Natural Born Citizen only appears in the U.S.Constitution as an eligibility requirement for the Presidency. It is NOT now, nor has it ever been, a type of citizenship.
You are dead on. In order to be a natural born citizen, one has to be the child of two US citizens. The democrat party tried to disqualify John McCain because he was born in the Panama Canal zone trying to make the case that he was born outside of the US. His father was a US Navy officer and his mother was born in the US. But when it comes to obama, no such scrutiny was applied to him. IF he is actually Barak Hussein Obama, then he is not qualified because according to British law, his father was a British citizen making Barak jr. NOT eligible to be the president. Add to that his family members proudly claiming that he was born in kenya and ALL his life records are sealed leads to the suspicion that he is not legally qualified.
But the democrats have proven many times that laws are for the little people and they don’t have to follow the law.
Silly Americans, laws are for kids. We are democrats and we can do damn well what we please. And no one is going to stand up to us because if they do, we will unleash our base to riot and destroy your cities if you question the kenyan illegal president.
The dims went all in with this guy and are not about to back down in their defense of him. He was and is their ticket to tyranny. And don’t count on anyone in the media to pursue this.
Old whatsisname is no longer a member of the Illinois Bar for reasons which are sealed. He also falsely denied drug use, and any traffic violations. Typically, a wayward attorney might be offered a chance to "voluntarily" withdraw from the bar, and have all records sealed, rather than involve the parties in a possibly acrimonious proceeding. Old whatsisname's Bar Files are sealed.
In re the sealed original birth certificate: That is exactly what is done in the case of adoption by a step parent. The question is, was the Soetoro etc. moniker ever LEGALLY CHANGED BACK?
IMHO, it is possible that DuJan is not quite on target in one regard. That is, it is entirely possible that Barry was born elsewhere and Grandma Dunham just "phoned it in," as was very often the case in Hawaii in that period. As a result, neither DuJan, nor I, nor any Freeper can be sure either way! Smells fishy. Might be chicken?
I have always had the sneaking suspicion that the COLB/BC deal, while important and certainly germane, was a monstrous sleight-of-hand; a misdirection; away from the real issue of Barack Senior's citizenship. It has certainly helped Team Obama confuse the issue by conflating "Native" Citizenship, which is barely possible for him, with "Natural Born Citizenship," which on the face of it is impossible for him. In that regard, Team Obama has surely gotten its legal dollar's worth!
Gee, I wonder if I could get a Judge to look at this in court. What do you think?
When BHO was adopted, the US did not allow parents to renounce the citizenship of minor children.
What Indonesia allowed or did not allow has nothing to do with it.
Very interesting questions and there are many more. But, the one that stands above all: Why has Barry spent over $2 million in lawyer's fees to lockup all his most basic of records from scrutiny? Where there's this much smoke, there's a heck of a fire.
How many names does this guy have for cryin’ out loud.
“The reason Obama has spent so much time and money hiding his original birth certificate is because his adoption in the 1970s, and the bizarre, Klingon-sounding name Soetobakh are just so strange and difficult to explain to Americans.”
RIGHT! And Barack Hussein Obama sounds great to American ears. Bull!!
I didn’t know that. Thanks for pointing that out. Do you have a reference or citation?
Sven Magnussen has posted copies of US State Dept. documents explaining how a US citizen minor can indeed renounce US citizenship. It can be done.
If Sven doesn’t reply, his comments can be searched as he has posted this info quite a number of times.
I wrote about this a long time ago. I went through my postings and I have been yapping way too much. It would seem to take a long time to get back to those discussions, but I looked this up and was shocked to find this discussion.
I will see if there is any way to dig this up again.
7 FAM 1118 FOUNDLINGS
a. Under INA 301(f) (8 U.S.C. 1401(f)) (formerly Section 301(a)(6)) INA), a child of unknown parents is conclusively presumed to be a U.S. citizen if found in the United States when under 5 years of age...
Indeed, there are many who would argue that he was "found," not "born" given the complete absence of a historical record.
The reason I ask is that I remember a conversation on a blog back in the summer of 2008 when on of the participants had worked for the State Department.
The conversation concerned Natural Born Citizenship and its Constitutional origin. She related how even the State Department couldn’t get the definition correct in their manual!
So if you have that information it would sure be insightful. I suspect there has been a great deal of confusion over this issue for a long time.
Stanely Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro, the mother of Obama, her passport records for 1960-1965 have been withheld from FOIA requests. The government claims all passport records from those dates have been destroyed, but that has been proven false by researchers.
These records, plus Obama’s Hawaiian public school record for kindergarten, have purposely disappeared.
He wasn’t born in Hawaii, and no, I don’t think he just popped up somewhere as a foundling.
I don’t think the reconsideration has to do primarily with eligibility, rather with atty Hemenway’s snookering the court or gettting one past them by making a motion for recusal of the two obama appointees. The court did not act on the motion so it should be granted. Accordingly they should be recused from this conference.
Whether they accept the case or not is still up for grabs. Two things of note, Abercrombie’s supposed statement there is no long form for Obama as well as the latest poll showing millions of Americans doubt Obamas place of birth. Despite trying to avoid the issue the SCOTUS will have to hear it sooner or later. The last consideration was about 30 days ago and the only significant news since then was Aercrombies and the new poll.
more info here
Little Barry has a new name? Soetobakh???