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Why the Supreme Court has been compelled to hold a new hearing on Obama’s eligibility.
HillBuzz ^ | February 17,2011 | Kevin DuJan

Posted on 02/17/2011 8:31:53 PM PST by dalight

Drudge has linked this story from World Net Daily that notes the odd decision by the Supreme Court to hold a new “conference” on Obama’s eligibility to hold the presidency.

Let’s research WHY the court could be compelled to do this.

It MUST have something to do with the fact that Obama has no birth certificate on file in the Hawaiian Hall of Records with the name “Barack Hussein Obama” on it — since his original Hawaiian birth certificate with that name was sealed in the 1970s when he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, his stepfather. At the time of adoption, a child’s original birth certificate is sealed away and replaced in the Hall of Records by a new birth certificate that bears the adopted parents’ names and the child’s new name, if a new name is given.

This is what happened to Obama, when he was renamed “Soetobakh” by his mother and stepfather at the time of adoption.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; hillbuzz; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; obama; soetobakh; unconstitutional; usurper
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Kevin DuJan continues with his series of explaining how and why we have the situation we do with respect to Obama's birth certificate. It is a compelling theory. In spite of all, common sense will create a situation where this has to be resolved.
1 posted on 02/17/2011 8:32:03 PM PST by dalight
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To: dalight

oh, there’s nothing to this birth certificate business...Bill O’Reilly says “The Factor” investigated and it’s “bogus”...


2 posted on 02/17/2011 8:34:00 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: bigbob
oh, there’s nothing to this birth certificate business...Bill O’Reilly says “The Factor” investigated and it’s “bogus”...

LOL, good one.

3 posted on 02/17/2011 8:35:24 PM PST by dalight
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To: dalight

When BHO was adopted, Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.


4 posted on 02/17/2011 8:38:40 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: dalight

Of course his real name is....

Baraq O Bamah

or

The Lightning from the Heights


5 posted on 02/17/2011 8:39:55 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: dalight

When BHO was adopted, Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.


6 posted on 02/17/2011 8:42:37 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: dalight

The question still remains which he(the author) along with others is there actual proof Obama or whatever his name may be was born in Hawaii.

Not one person has come up with proof. They always blurt out something or another theory; but never actually answer this question or show proof. So it remains the $64,000 question. Was Obama actually born in Hawaii?

Just answer the damn question. Was Obama actually born in Hawaii?


7 posted on 02/17/2011 8:44:50 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dalight

My God! ANOTHER alias! Barak Hussain “Soetobakh.” How many more aliases does this mystery man have? If only I could live to be 200 so I could be enlightened with the full story of this evil usurper.


8 posted on 02/17/2011 8:45:20 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: freekitty

That question is a distraction. The REAL question is whether he is an NBC. The facts on that issue almost incontrovertibly point to “NO.”


9 posted on 02/17/2011 8:46:56 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: bigbob

you mean the looking out for the folks O.R said he saw a newspaper announcment and that clear everything up, that O.R.?

What a complete idiot he is.
I guess he has never heard of putting in announcements to papers with no proof.

Why does he not ask the HI Gov why he could nto find it or why obama never showed it or even why he sealed his records or even why his own family said he was born over there or even why his wife said Baracks homeland Kenya?

Silly O.R. how can he possibly say he;s looking out for the folks.
He could break a world wide story here and make a name world wide and go down in history but no he’s a coward like his pal Hannity


10 posted on 02/17/2011 8:47:40 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: bigbob

Bill O’Reilly is a POS and a puppet for his boss at FOX Prince Al Waleed bin Tal. I assume your were joking because BOR the sex pervert is a joke.


11 posted on 02/17/2011 8:49:17 PM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: dalight

The number of obastard’s (see tagy) ecords that are sealed is truly amazing.

Seen some theories why the left is suddenly pounding on the “birther” issue. Rope-a-dope? Political ploy? I say no. It’s to distract from something truly d@mning in the other records. Classic Sun Tzu.

The OTHER records are where the real meat is, IMHO.


12 posted on 02/17/2011 8:50:33 PM PST by piytar (Obastard is a use of the term "bastard" in the literal sense -- Obama is hiding his daddy's identity)
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To: TheBigIf

why not ask why he never changed his name from his muslim name.?

What a bunch of cowards we have in our corrupt biased media and yet this guy and Hannity say they’re looking out for us.

Yea right


13 posted on 02/17/2011 8:50:49 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: dalight

Soetobakh ?


14 posted on 02/17/2011 8:51:57 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: piytar

got into an argument about how smart obama is with this idiot not a liberal but just an idiot who watches local news.
It was about how smart obama is and how dumb Bush was.

When I asked what grades obama got they had no clue.
I then asked why does obama not want us to see his school grades and all she could say was I don’t know.

Have to hand it to our corrupt media, they really have been good at their propaganda


15 posted on 02/17/2011 8:53:36 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: dalight

If his “birth” father was Kenyan and thus a British Subject... and his “adopted” father was Indonesian and thus...well.. Indonesian... how can Zero claim to be of “natural born parents”??

I thought that your mother and father HAD to be US citizens in order to be considered “natural born parents”??


16 posted on 02/17/2011 8:53:41 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: dalight

Even “if” he was born in Hawaii, his father was not American. If that is the case, is he eligible to be an American president. I thought that both parents have to be American citizens to be a natural born citizen of the US.


17 posted on 02/17/2011 8:53:43 PM PST by mia
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To: dalight
(((It MUST have something to do with the fact that Obama has no birth certificate on file in the Hawaiian Hall of Records with the name “Barack Hussein Obama”)))

Click on the image to hear Mike Evans

Governor of Hawaii couldn't find Obama's Birth Certificate

18 posted on 02/17/2011 8:54:29 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: mia

That’s crazy. You basically asked the exact same question that I did 2 seconds later!


19 posted on 02/17/2011 8:55:36 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: dalight

...“Soetobakh”....

This guy has so very many names!

He’s a muslim, too, isn’t he?


20 posted on 02/17/2011 8:57:01 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: smokingfrog

“Soetobakh ?”

That’s a new one I haven’t seen before!


21 posted on 02/17/2011 8:57:01 PM PST by Batman11
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To: pacpam
When BHO was adopted, Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.

Though this is certainly true, it only a part of the current kerfuffle. Obama and company hide this and they concentrate on the Birth Certificate because they can haul out this piece of crap and dare folks to make a beef about it which folks apparently have decided will fall somewhere in the gray area when they consider the wrong name issue by itself. The problem is that it is likely the SOB may not even be a Citizen in spite of the ease it would have been to re-establish it. Or perhaps he is, but under his legal name, not BHO.

Worse, he very likely took advantage of foreign tuition breaks when he went to college, hence, the hiding of these records. It is a house of cards.

22 posted on 02/17/2011 8:58:10 PM PST by dalight
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To: manc

“What a bunch of cowards we have in our corrupt biased media and yet this guy and Hannity say they’re looking out for us.
Yea right”

Americans have been dumbed down to moron level.
That is why I left.

If Americans do not wake up, there will be no America by 2012.


23 posted on 02/17/2011 8:59:23 PM PST by AlexW
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To: freekitty
Just answer the damn question. Was Obama actually born in Hawaii?

This is another question that just aches. Everything seems to be consistent with the proposed explanation that Obama's original Hawaii Birth Certificate was a result of a affidavit filed by his grandparents.

24 posted on 02/17/2011 9:01:45 PM PST by dalight
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To: Batman11

Me neither. Haven’t of that name before. We truly are screwed that this POSUS has so many different aliases.


25 posted on 02/17/2011 9:01:45 PM PST by max americana
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
That question is a distraction. The REAL question is whether he is an NBC. The facts on that issue almost incontrovertibly point to “NO.”

The funny thing is that if you read the State Department's own manual on citizenship they specifically separate the definition of Natural Born citizen from Naturalized and Birthright Citizenship.

26 posted on 02/17/2011 9:03:52 PM PST by dalight
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To: dalight

What I wasn’t aware of that DuJan points out in his post on Hillbuzz is that at least 10 states, with more on the horizon, are underway to enacting a legislative requirement to provide a Certificate of Live Birth for name access to that’s state’s ballot. I had no idea it was 10 or more. I’d read the White House was extremely concerned about this. They planned on having only 1 or 2 states enact this requirement and then label them as racist states. But when 10 or more plan on it, then the “racist” brush won’t paint a swath that wide and resonate.

Anyone know which states are thinking of doing this, and are any of them close enough to getting it done?


27 posted on 02/17/2011 9:07:07 PM PST by antonico
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To: bigbob
Oreilly is as ignorant as he is arrogant. You would think that Obama’s refusal to release such an ordinary document would make a journalist suspicious. Bill must be desperate to land another Obama interview.
28 posted on 02/17/2011 9:09:43 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: dalight

Special Agent to Obama supporters:
"I am looking for the Imposter’s REAL birth certificate."



29 posted on 02/17/2011 9:11:56 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: piytar

You could be right. I thought a President can not have ever held citizenship in another country. Maybe that is what they are hiding, Indonesian passport?


30 posted on 02/17/2011 9:13:52 PM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Batman11

“Soetobakh”...for some reason when I say that name in my head I hear Jabba the Hutt’s voice saying it


31 posted on 02/17/2011 9:14:38 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: antonico
What I wasn’t aware of that DuJan points out in his post on Hillbuzz is that at least 10 states, with more on the horizon, are underway to enacting a legislative requirement to provide a Certificate of Live Birth for name access to that’s state’s ballot. I had no idea it was 10 or more. I’d read the White House was extremely concerned about this. They planned on having only 1 or 2 states enact this requirement and then label them as racist states. But when 10 or more plan on it, then the “racist” brush won’t paint a swath that wide and resonate.

Ultimately, folks smell a rat, and even if this is nothing, the possibility exists that someone else would play this game so its worth dealing with. Frankly, the last few election cycles saw several candidates who were ineligible on the ballot in several states. The system has relied on the national parties guaranteeing the person's eligibility and this has come into question, so the only rational response is to do what states do for everyone else, say "Show me."

32 posted on 02/17/2011 9:16:35 PM PST by dalight
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To: dalight

“if you read the State Department’s own manual on citizenship they specifically separate the definition of Natural Born citizen from Naturalized and Birthright Citizenship.”

Really? Do you have a copy? Or is it online?

I know that there are three types of statutory citizenship: native born (born in the U.S. to legal residents); citizenship-by-statute (born overseas to one or two U.S. citizen parents); and naturalization (foreign-born but naturalized as citizen).

Natural Born Citizen only appears in the U.S.Constitution as an eligibility requirement for the Presidency. It is NOT now, nor has it ever been, a type of citizenship.


33 posted on 02/17/2011 9:19:32 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

You are dead on. In order to be a natural born citizen, one has to be the child of two US citizens. The democrat party tried to disqualify John McCain because he was born in the Panama Canal zone trying to make the case that he was born outside of the US. His father was a US Navy officer and his mother was born in the US. But when it comes to obama, no such scrutiny was applied to him. IF he is actually Barak Hussein Obama, then he is not qualified because according to British law, his father was a British citizen making Barak jr. NOT eligible to be the president. Add to that his family members proudly claiming that he was born in kenya and ALL his life records are sealed leads to the suspicion that he is not legally qualified.
But the democrats have proven many times that laws are for the little people and they don’t have to follow the law.

Silly Americans, laws are for kids. We are democrats and we can do damn well what we please. And no one is going to stand up to us because if they do, we will unleash our base to riot and destroy your cities if you question the kenyan illegal president.

The dims went all in with this guy and are not about to back down in their defense of him. He was and is their ticket to tyranny. And don’t count on anyone in the media to pursue this.


34 posted on 02/17/2011 9:20:25 PM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: dalight
On his Illinois Bar Application, old whatsisname denied ever having used a name other than Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.. That is patently and demonstrably false.

Old whatsisname is no longer a member of the Illinois Bar for reasons which are sealed. He also falsely denied drug use, and any traffic violations. Typically, a wayward attorney might be offered a chance to "voluntarily" withdraw from the bar, and have all records sealed, rather than involve the parties in a possibly acrimonious proceeding. Old whatsisname's Bar Files are sealed.

In re the sealed original birth certificate: That is exactly what is done in the case of adoption by a step parent. The question is, was the Soetoro etc. moniker ever LEGALLY CHANGED BACK?

IMHO, it is possible that DuJan is not quite on target in one regard. That is, it is entirely possible that Barry was born elsewhere and Grandma Dunham just "phoned it in," as was very often the case in Hawaii in that period. As a result, neither DuJan, nor I, nor any Freeper can be sure either way! Smells fishy. Might be chicken?

I have always had the sneaking suspicion that the COLB/BC deal, while important and certainly germane, was a monstrous sleight-of-hand; a misdirection; away from the real issue of Barack Senior's citizenship. It has certainly helped Team Obama confuse the issue by conflating "Native" Citizenship, which is barely possible for him, with "Natural Born Citizenship," which on the face of it is impossible for him. In that regard, Team Obama has surely gotten its legal dollar's worth!

Gee, I wonder if I could get a Judge to look at this in court. What do you think?

35 posted on 02/17/2011 9:26:28 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (With a friend like Obama, a country needs no enemies.)
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To: pacpam
When BHO was adopted, Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.

When BHO was adopted, the US did not allow parents to renounce the citizenship of minor children.

What Indonesia allowed or did not allow has nothing to do with it.

36 posted on 02/17/2011 9:28:42 PM PST by Jim Noble (House GOP: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.)
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To: Uncledave
1. Where was Barry born? Kenya, Indonesia, Hawaii, Mars?
2. Who was his birth father (and is it on the long form BC)?
3. How many passports has he had? What countries issued them and under what name?
4. Why does Barry have MULTIPLE Social Security numbers? Is he committing identity fraud?
5. Did Barry attend college on a Fullbright scholarship? Fullbrights are only awarded to foreign nationals. Did Barry commit fraud to get the scholarship?
6. How did Barry travel to Pakistan at a time when U.S. citizens were not allowed to go there? What country's passport did he use?

Very interesting questions and there are many more. But, the one that stands above all: Why has Barry spent over $2 million in lawyer's fees to lockup all his most basic of records from scrutiny? Where there's this much smoke, there's a heck of a fire.

37 posted on 02/17/2011 9:30:42 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: dalight

How many names does this guy have for cryin’ out loud.


38 posted on 02/17/2011 9:30:50 PM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: dalight

“The reason Obama has spent so much time and money hiding his original birth certificate is because his adoption in the 1970s, and the bizarre, Klingon-sounding name “Soetobakh” are just so strange and difficult to explain to Americans.”

RIGHT! And Barack Hussein Obama sounds great to American ears. Bull!!


39 posted on 02/17/2011 9:31:21 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: dalight

I didn’t know that. Thanks for pointing that out. Do you have a reference or citation?


40 posted on 02/17/2011 9:31:43 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jim Noble; pacpam; SvenMagnussen

Sven Magnussen has posted copies of US State Dept. documents explaining how a US citizen minor can indeed renounce US citizenship. It can be done.

If Sven doesn’t reply, his comments can be searched as he has posted this info quite a number of times.


41 posted on 02/17/2011 9:33:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SatinDoll
“if you read the State Department’s own manual on citizenship they specifically separate the definition of Natural Born citizen from Naturalized and Birthright Citizenship.”

I wrote about this a long time ago. I went through my postings and I have been yapping way too much. It would seem to take a long time to get back to those discussions, but I looked this up and was shocked to find this discussion.

I will see if there is any way to dig this up again.

42 posted on 02/17/2011 9:34:29 PM PST by dalight
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To: headstamp 2
How many names does this guy have for cryin’ out loud

lmao - was thinking the same thing. Obama, Soetoro, Soektabah, Juwana, Yomama, Obozo...when do they stop?!
43 posted on 02/17/2011 9:34:59 PM PST by Longdriver
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To: dalight
Considering the fact that many dispute his sire and perhaps even his mother, then this State Department ruling would certainly have some bearing on the issue...

7 FAM 1118 FOUNDLINGS
(CT:CON-314; 08-21-2009)
a. Under INA 301(f) (8 U.S.C. 1401(f)) (formerly Section 301(a)(6)) INA), a child of unknown parents is conclusively presumed to be a U.S. citizen if found in the United States when under 5 years of age...

Indeed, there are many who would argue that he was "found," not "born" given the complete absence of a historical record.

44 posted on 02/17/2011 9:37:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: dalight

The reason I ask is that I remember a conversation on a blog back in the summer of 2008 when on of the participants had worked for the State Department.

The conversation concerned Natural Born Citizenship and its Constitutional origin. She related how even the State Department couldn’t get the definition correct in their manual!

So if you have that information it would sure be insightful. I suspect there has been a great deal of confusion over this issue for a long time.


45 posted on 02/17/2011 9:41:10 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: dalight
I just reviewed the U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7 - Consular Affairs, Section 7 FAM 1100 ACQUISITION AND RETENTION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND NATIONALITY and Section 7 FAM 1110 ACQUISITION OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP BY BIRTH IN THE UNITED STATES and can find no definition of NBC.
46 posted on 02/17/2011 9:41:59 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: dalight
He's got so many names spinning around I am defaulting to his name of his youth (apparently) until all this is settled


47 posted on 02/17/2011 9:51:50 PM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Stanely Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro, the mother of Obama, her passport records for 1960-1965 have been withheld from FOIA requests. The government claims all passport records from those dates have been destroyed, but that has been proven false by researchers.

These records, plus Obama’s Hawaiian public school record for kindergarten, have purposely disappeared.

He wasn’t born in Hawaii, and no, I don’t think he just popped up somewhere as a foundling.


48 posted on 02/17/2011 9:52:42 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: dalight

I don’t think the reconsideration has to do primarily with eligibility, rather with atty Hemenway’s snookering the court or gettting one past them by making a motion for recusal of the two obama appointees. The court did not act on the motion so it should be granted. Accordingly they should be recused from this conference.

Whether they accept the case or not is still up for grabs. Two things of note, Abercrombie’s supposed statement there is no long form for Obama as well as the latest poll showing millions of Americans doubt Obamas place of birth. Despite trying to avoid the issue the SCOTUS will have to hear it sooner or later. The last consideration was about 30 days ago and the only significant news since then was Aercrombies and the new poll.

more info here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2675406/posts


49 posted on 02/17/2011 9:53:02 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: LucyT; melancholy

Ping.

Little Barry has a new name? Soetobakh???


50 posted on 02/17/2011 9:54:41 PM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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