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Anti-gun IL lawmakers seeking power to effectively halt ALL (legal) gun buying?
St Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 16 February, 2011 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 02/18/2011 4:03:49 AM PST by marktwain

Gun rights blogger Thirdpower notes today the Catch-22 that some legislators in Illinois (and elsewhere) would like to impose on firearms commerce:

When I've countered that while the same time the push is for all sales to go through FFL dealers, there is a simultaneous drive to reduce and eliminate as many firearm dealers as possible, I'm called paranoid.

He refers to the nexus of bills like HB 1296/SB 2026, to require all gun sales (the bills say they refer only to handgun sales, and not long guns--more on that in a bit) to go through licensed dealers, and bills like SB 1611, to require that gun dealers and gunsmiths (again, the bill ostensibly only applies to handgun dealers/gunsmiths, and again, more on that in a bit) be subjected to oppressive licensing by the state, in addition to having to deal with the BATFE's predations at the federal level (see the story of Red's Trading Post, for just one example of that).

We could talk about the fact that requiring sales to go through licensed dealers is particularly redundant in Illinois, since all gun purchasers are already required to have a Firearms Owners Identification (FOID) card, issued only after applicant's passage of a criminal background check. We could also talk about the fact that even the mythical "gun show loophole" isn't in play here, because Illinois already requires all gun purchases at gun shows to go through licensed dealers. Never mind that, though, especially given my strong agreement with National Gun Rights Examiner David Codrea's rule of thumb, that "anyone who can't be trusted with a gun can't be trusted without a custodian."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: backgroundcheck; banglist; il; registration
The current federal check originally only applied to handguns. We were promised that it would never apply to long guns. The NRA bargained away that protection.

The concept that the government could or should only “allow” certain people to have guns stands the very concept of American jurisprudence on its head. It presumes that the government knows all, controls all, and should be doing so. It is wrong and ineffective.

It is crazy to set up a huge expensive bureaucratic system, require everyone to jump though hoops and prove that they are *not* criminals in order to try, ineffectively, to prevent the few individuals who are not responsible, from having legal access to guns. This is a failed paradigm, and it should be abandoned. To accept the idea that the all gun sales should be monitored by the government, and only allowed to those it deems satisfactory is fundamentally wrong.

The entire idea of the enterprise has always been the death of a thousand cuts, where the restrictions on who can buy, and where, and how and what are continually increased until the number of gun owners is reduced to political insignificance.

1 posted on 02/18/2011 4:03:59 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Gun registration is gun confiscation:

2 posted on 02/18/2011 4:06:07 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

At long last, these democrat commie bastards come out of their closet to verify their true agenda, eliminate all guns in the US and leave us all defenseless,

3 posted on 02/18/2011 4:12:07 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: marktwain

Batista in Cuba forced gun registration on all the Cubans. When castro overthrew the govt he had a list of all the people who owned firearms and where they lived.
The round up began.

4 posted on 02/18/2011 4:13:09 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: marktwain

I remember watching the original “Red Dawn”, the enemy knew exactly how to exploit the records to find anyone with a weapon so they could be tracked down and eliminated.

5 posted on 02/18/2011 4:20:59 AM PST by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: Texas resident

Anyone who believes that mandatory gun registration is in any way, shapre orform a benign program is a complete naif.

6 posted on 02/18/2011 4:22:59 AM PST by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Senator John Blutarski

You’re right about that...

7 posted on 02/18/2011 4:55:19 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: marktwain

The legislators want to disarm us before the system they have created collapses. A destitute, hungry and “armed” citizenry is dangerous to its “rulers”.

8 posted on 02/18/2011 5:16:26 AM PST by radioone (Proud to be an enemy of Obama)
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To: radioone

>A destitute, hungry and “armed” citizenry is dangerous to its “rulers”.

Ironically even less-so than an armed and morally-determined Citizenry. (But that may be why as a matter of policy arms are generally frowned upon by governmental agencies.)

9 posted on 02/18/2011 9:35:00 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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