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BREAKING NEWS: State media say Egypt has agreed to let 2 Iran navy ships through Suez Canal
MSNBC ^ | February 18, 2011 | MSNBC

Posted on 02/18/2011 9:00:10 AM PST by Hawk720

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: associatedpress; debka; egypt; iran; israel; obama; suezcanal
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1 posted on 02/18/2011 9:00:16 AM PST by Hawk720
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To: Hawk720

What are the odds that they will not make the return trip?


2 posted on 02/18/2011 9:02:45 AM PST by AU72
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To: Hawk720

Not much of a surprise. Sadly.

Where’s Barry? (Sorta like Where’s Waldo? but Barry show up in even more inappropriate places, like on the side of the union fascists in Wisconsin.)


3 posted on 02/18/2011 9:04:49 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: Hawk720

Impeach the guy already.


4 posted on 02/18/2011 9:08:26 AM PST by toddausauras
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To: Hawk720

By my reckoning, the North end is about 120 miles from Ashkelon, Israel, or 150 miles from Tel Aviv.

Wonder where they’re bound?


5 posted on 02/18/2011 9:08:52 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Hawk720
War in the Middle East is rapidly approaching, and the US will lose Saudi oil no matter what action the US takes.

The socialist utopia America will soon be a reality.

6 posted on 02/18/2011 9:09:58 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: FourPeas

Where’s Barry?

Out here in CA. Then up to Oregon. He is taking a tour of an Intel mfg company plant today. Look for safety glass and hardhat pictures of our working man president this evening.


7 posted on 02/18/2011 9:10:11 AM PST by artificial intelligence (Your data will be processed by me for future input. Thank you.)
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To: Hawk720

No doubt encouraged by the appearance in Egypt of that radical freak Muslim Brotherhood imam at their Friday “prayers” (aka, the Two Minutes Hate of Jews/women/Americans). He had been forbidden to enter Egypt for the last 30 years, and arrived triumphantly yesterday and was escorted to the “prayers” by the army today.


8 posted on 02/18/2011 9:11:00 AM PST by livius
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To: FourPeas

Wasn’t it the big Motown party night at the White Hut? Maybe he is sleeping off the booze vapors and fried food.


9 posted on 02/18/2011 9:11:00 AM PST by dforest
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To: Hawk720

No doubt encouraged by the appearance in Egypt of that radical freak Muslim Brotherhood imam at their Friday “prayers” (aka, the Two Minutes Hate of Jews/women/Americans). He had been forbidden to enter Egypt for the last 30 years, and arrived triumphantly yesterday and was escorted to the “prayers” by the army today.


10 posted on 02/18/2011 9:11:22 AM PST by livius
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To: Navy Patriot

Maybe we could move to Cuba. They have socialism down.


11 posted on 02/18/2011 9:11:30 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: Hawk720
Chickens are roosting, eh Barry?

Mike

12 posted on 02/18/2011 9:13:11 AM PST by MichaelP ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: artificial intelligence

he’s got panetta looking at twitter and fb closely to monitor the situation.


13 posted on 02/18/2011 9:13:36 AM PST by sappy (criminallibs)
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To: Hawk720
No surprise here, war is on the way. We will eventually have to drill and use our resources, here in the states.

We should already be doing that.

14 posted on 02/18/2011 9:14:02 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Hawk720

I understand the Mediterranean is a nice place to go swimming in February.


15 posted on 02/18/2011 9:18:20 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Hawk720

“BREAKING NEWS: State media say Egypt has agreed to let 2 Iran navy ships through Suez Canal”

Israel ought to have a submarine waiting not far from where they EXIT the canal into the Mediterranean, and — as soon as they are far enough from the exit to be in deeper waters — blow them both out of the water.

Situation resolved.


16 posted on 02/18/2011 9:19:17 AM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Hawk720

17 posted on 02/18/2011 9:24:16 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Hawk720
Maybe I'm missing something here. What's the big deal?

I've always understood that the Constantinople Accord of 1888 is still considered a binding international agreement governing the Suez Canal . . . and it specifically says that no commercial or military vessel may be excluded from using it.

That 1888 agreement is actually quite remarkable in that it doesn't even allow any interference of transit through the canal in a time of war between the signatories.

18 posted on 02/18/2011 9:30:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Uncle Ike; HollyB; onyx; maggief; Liz; penelopesire; HushTX; McGruff; hegemony; sunmars; ...

Uh oh ping


19 posted on 02/18/2011 9:32:23 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Navy Patriot

I respect your opinion. I ask you to not count America out just yet. America, in my lifetime and history, has always been full of surprises. May God be with all of us, as He will, during the times to come. I ask, all of us, to not count America out just yet.


20 posted on 02/18/2011 9:33:51 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Alberta's Child

As well it should.


21 posted on 02/18/2011 9:35:41 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 759 of our national holiday from reality. - It's almost 3 AM)
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To: screaminsunshine
Maybe we could move to Cuba.

No.

However, sadly, surprisingly, and chillingly, the ONLY entity to stand up against Obama, Muslim terrorists, Muslim culture, EU socialists, environmentalists, leftist media, ultra rich socialist manipulators, and Marxist socialism, is.........

Wait for it........

Putin's Russian Federation.

Before ya panic, remember, Russia's government is much more Mafia like, than communist. Schemes to profit grandly from crony capitalism abound in Russia, and while communists have shadows of power, the tenets of communism are universally rejected, economically.

22 posted on 02/18/2011 9:36:03 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Hawk720

23 posted on 02/18/2011 9:37:09 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

No. Too obvious. Wait until they just make it to the docks in Syria.


24 posted on 02/18/2011 9:37:42 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: SE Mom

What do you think? Headed for Gaza?


25 posted on 02/18/2011 9:38:23 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: Alberta's Child

***That 1888 agreement is actually quite remarkable in that it doesn’t even allow any interference of transit through the canal in a time of war between the signatories.***

Yet during the Six Day War of 1967 the Egyptians sunk several vessels to block the canal till Israel and Egypt signed the Camp David Accords.


26 posted on 02/18/2011 9:39:11 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: Hawk720

There was an end time movie where the stock market was hitting new highs while nukes were detonating in the middle east.


27 posted on 02/18/2011 9:39:30 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Alberta's Child
Maybe I'm missing something here. What's the big deal?

If you get an answer please ping me. I have been wondering the same thing.

28 posted on 02/18/2011 9:39:58 AM PST by jpsb
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To: no-to-illegals

I’d have more confidence in that if America was anywhere in the final battle. I think we have to be rendered irrelevant before Armageddon.


29 posted on 02/18/2011 9:40:39 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 759 of our national holiday from reality. - It's almost 3 AM)
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To: artificial intelligence

Maybe we will honor his presence with a 9.0 mag. quake!


30 posted on 02/18/2011 9:40:39 AM PST by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Navy Patriot
The socialist utopia America will soon be a reality.

With all respect due a Fellow Freeper and...I mean this in the nicest way possible...

.

Horseshit.

31 posted on 02/18/2011 9:42:08 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tyrants flourish only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.)
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To: SE Mom
A little premature


32 posted on 02/18/2011 9:43:05 AM PST by McGruff (If you tell a lie enough times some people will come to believe it.)
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To: Hawk720

Iranian frigate "Sahand" during Operation Praying Mantis 18APR88.

Remember when we had a President?

33 posted on 02/18/2011 9:44:43 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

More likely that the naval commandos will attach tracking
devices or command detonated mines to the ships to be activated at a time and place that offers Israel plausible deniability.

At some time in the future the ships will mysteriously
sink due to an unknown internal explosion.

Reports say that the ships are bound for Syria (Latakia or Tartus ports).


34 posted on 02/18/2011 9:44:46 AM PST by rahbert
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Man, oh man, I just don’t know what to think...but none of the possibilities seem to lead to a good outcome.


35 posted on 02/18/2011 9:44:53 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Hawk720

Time to withdraw all foreign aid to Egypt. Let them starve.


36 posted on 02/18/2011 9:47:08 AM PST by Sarabaracuda (Sarah 2012)
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To: null and void

I recognize and realize your reference. Asking for God’s confirmation though. Sometimes a book has missing chapters, therefore I will not count America out. IF missing chapters are a reality, then ifs and buts may present a Merry Christmas. I am Late, yet I understand your point.


37 posted on 02/18/2011 9:47:37 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: SE Mom

I am not surprised. Mad not surprised. Next Iran will have film of Israel doing something to protect themselves and the regime/White House will portray it as a hostile act towards Iran. Not good at all.


38 posted on 02/18/2011 9:47:41 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: Hawk720

Is this ordinary or not?


39 posted on 02/18/2011 9:48:12 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Alberta's Child

Considering that Iran’s leader repeatedly calls for the destruction of Israel, and with all the protest in Iran, the Iranian Regime might just thing it’s time to start a little something with Israel to galvanize the protesters into supporting the regime. What better way to bring the lost sheep back home than to attack a (perceived) common enemy?

Other than that, it was big news when the Israeli submarine transitted the canal around June 2009, with news reports of an imminent attack by Israel on Iran.


40 posted on 02/18/2011 9:48:23 AM PST by FourPeas
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To: AU72
What are the odds that they will not make the return trip?

I'd say the odds of them even coming within 200 miles of their destination (without turning tail) are pretty slim. ....if past provocations are any indication.

41 posted on 02/18/2011 9:49:14 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Hawk720

I’m sure Obama is “inspired” by this development.


42 posted on 02/18/2011 9:52:13 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Obama is "inspired" by the vanguard of the Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The security of Israel trumps any such agreements. I hope They send the Iranian ships to the bottom of the ocean.


43 posted on 02/18/2011 9:53:13 AM PST by Sarabaracuda (Sarah 2012)
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To: Alberta's Child
That 1888 agreement is actually quite remarkable in that it doesn't even allow any interference of transit through the canal in a time of war between the signatories.

Key word is "signatories." This is the same mistake that lefties make when talking about the "Geneva Convention". The Geneva Convention, like the Constantinople Accord, apples only to those countries which have actually signed it (hence inoperative in either Iraq or Afghanistan, e.g.).<p> And in WWI, the British effectively shut down the Canal to use by the enemy.

44 posted on 02/18/2011 9:53:40 AM PST by PhilosopherStone1000 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2649877/posts)
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To: Hawk720

According to treaty I believe that Iran has every right to float their boats through that canal, just like anyone else. What they do on the other side is completely different, but if you believe in international law then what they are doing might be seen as a provocation to some, but by not letting them through it will set a dangerous precedence. Someday it might be our warships that are arbitrarily denied passage through if they are allowed to pick and choose.


45 posted on 02/18/2011 9:54:53 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Yet during the Six Day War of 1967 the Egyptians sunk several vessels to block the canal till Israel and Egypt signed the Camp David Accords.

I'm wondering if your calendar is off by a few years here. Are you suggesting that the Suez Canal was closed from 1967 until the Camp David Accords were signed in 1976?

BTW, the desire of the U.S. to maintain free passage through the Suez was precisely what made us insist that Israel hand the Sinai Peninsula back to Egypt in 1976. In fact, I've read several unsubstantiated accounts indicating that Henry Kissinger prodded Egypt to invade the Sinai in 1973 specifically to set in motion the process that would remove the Sinai from Israel's hands and make sure the Suez Canal no longer served as a border between two hostile nations.

46 posted on 02/18/2011 9:55:51 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Hawk720

Wonder what would’ve happened if Egypt said ‘no way’.


47 posted on 02/18/2011 9:58:26 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Hawk720

They’ll go to Syria for a port visit. There will be speeches and fist waving and cries of “Death to Israel.” Then they’ll go home. Here’s the secret of Iran’s success: everyone treats them like they already have working nukes. They don’t. But the threat drives everyone apeshit crazy.

Settle down. It’s the Iranian Navy. Say it a few times. THE IRANIAN NAVY. Is Israel aware of them, yes. Are they scared of them? I seriously doubt it.


48 posted on 02/18/2011 9:59:36 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: ArrogantBustard

Thanks for the great and informative post. Reading up on facts again.
I needed the refresher/wake-up. Thanks again


49 posted on 02/18/2011 10:00:43 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Sarabaracuda
The security of Israel trumps any such agreements. I hope They send the Iranian ships to the bottom of the ocean.

Uh, no.

50 posted on 02/18/2011 10:01:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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