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Wisconsin Labor Unrest Could Go National
FoxNews.com ^ | February 18, 2011 | Chris Stirewalt

Posted on 02/18/2011 11:03:36 AM PST by ColdOne

Democrats and Unions Badger GOP in Wisconsin

“I've said all along the thousands of people who are storming the capitol have every right to be heard, but I'm not going to let them overshadow the voices of the millions of taxpayers in the state of Wisconsin who deserve to be heard, as well.”

-- Gov. Scott Walker, R-Wisc., “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren”

Union protesters and Democrat lawmakers will attempt to prevent for a second day a vote in the Wisconsin Senate that would increase public employees’ contributions to retirement and health benefits and strip unions of the power to bargain for higher salaries.

The battle in Madison has become the epicenter of a national fight between newly empowered small-government conservatives and Democrats backed by government worker unions. The grassroots political operation of President Obama, who on Wednesday denounced the austerity legislation as an “attack on unions,” has swung in behind the government workers. Organizing for America, the activist organizing wing of the Democratic National Committee is helping keep the pressure on Republican lawmakers who plan to pass the legislation today.

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TOPICS: Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; broke; deficits; pensions; protest; states; union; unions; wisconsinshowdown
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1 posted on 02/18/2011 11:03:40 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne
I'm all for it.

It will have the exact opposite effect from the one they desire.

2 posted on 02/18/2011 11:07:27 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: ColdOne
Better stash some firearms.... Obambi might just come after them...

Mike

3 posted on 02/18/2011 11:07:27 AM PST by MichaelP ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: ColdOne

Isn’t this how it started in Greece?


4 posted on 02/18/2011 11:07:47 AM PST by circlecity
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To: ColdOne
Wisconsin Labor Unrest Could Go National

Bring it on. Let everyone see it is the Gov't and their leeches against the rest of us.

5 posted on 02/18/2011 11:07:54 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ColdOne

I think these governors have a strategy in place to make the libs spread their resources thin. There are more of us than them, and the public will quickly grow tired of their tactics. We are on the winning side of the issues.


6 posted on 02/18/2011 11:07:54 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Let's party like it's 1773!)
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To: ColdOne

Good. Bring it on.


7 posted on 02/18/2011 11:09:37 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ( "Hokahey, today is a good day to die!" Crazy Horse, Lakota Sioux)
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To: ColdOne

“Under the law, the state would also stop withholding union dues from government paychecks and make due payments strictly voluntary.”

That’s probably the cause of all this fuss. It would make the unions more accountable to their members.


8 posted on 02/18/2011 11:11:57 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: ColdOne

Exactly what about “I don’t have the money” do these people not understand?


9 posted on 02/18/2011 11:12:08 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: ColdOne

Unions are the bread and butter of the democrat party. The dems have been giving them whatever they want for years, and looking the other way when union thugs break the law. Now the unreasonable demands of the unions clash with the wishes of the taxpayers.


10 posted on 02/18/2011 11:13:25 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: Terry Mross

Job Growth Lacking in the Private Sector (over the last decade)

FOR the first time since the Depression, the American economy has added virtually no jobs in the private sector over a 10-year period. The total number of jobs has grown a bit, but that is only because of government hiring.

The accompanying charts show the job performance from July 1999, when the economy was booming and companies were complaining about how hard it was to find workers, through July of this year, when the economy was mired in the deepest and longest recession since World War II. For the decade, there was a net gain of 121,000 private sector jobs, according to the survey of employers conducted each month by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. In an economy with 109 million such jobs, that indicated an annual growth rate for the 10 years of 0.01 percent.

Until the current downturn, the long-term annual growth rate for private sector jobs had not dipped below 1 percent since the early 1960s. Most often, the rate was well above that.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/business/economy/08charts.html

This should come as no surprise. The government and many citizens think the private sector is ‘evil’. Greedy, selfish and whatever. The problem is the private sector creates new businesses, creates new jobs, and pays taxes.

The government creates nothing. It is a parasite and lives off the private sectors profits. The very sector it is, along with many envious and jealous citizens, trying its very best to destroy. And when it does, all but those few in power and control, will live in misery. That should make everyone happy. Especially the politicians.

(this is what Wisconsin is all about)

** Despite budget cuts and layoff warnings, California still hiring and workforce still growing **

http://www.sacbee.com/politics/story/2094403.html

The Sacramento Bee
Aug. 9, 2009

** State job number on upswing despite recession **

California’s state government has managed to add thousands of jobs during this past year, defying a mammoth budget deficit and a brutal recession.

The job growth for state workers contrasts with the loss of 759,000 jobs in California’s private industry in the past 12 months

http://www.mercurynews.com/topstories/ci_12984385?nclick_check=1&forced=true

not to mention gubermint employees and their pensions...

Reform advocates are spotlighting those with extravagant pensions
— $100,000 or more — as a way to get the public’s attention and
emphasize that the current system is unsustainable.

http://www.modbee.com/editorials/story/803636.html

Perhaps the real reason why public-sector pension costs have not been tackled is that the full bill has never been revealed to taxpayers.

** The great public-sector pension rip-off **

http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13988606

From The Economist print edition
July 9, 2009

JOIN a private-sector company these days and you will be very lucky if you get a pension linked to your final salary. In Britain almost three out of four companies that retain such schemes have closed them to new employees. The cost of paying such benefits, which are partly linked to inflation and offer payouts to surviving spouses, is simply too high now that many retirees are surviving into their 80s.

Yet most new public-sector employees in Britain and America continue to benefit from pensions linked to their salaries. The pension costs facing the public sector are roughly the same as those facing the private sector; their employees are likely to live just as long. But because of the presumed largesse of future taxpayers, governments seem under much less pressure to reduce their pension costs. In 2005 a reform package in Britain raised the retirement age for new state employees, but still left existing employees able to retire at 60.

When it gets to CA, things will get ugly.


11 posted on 02/18/2011 11:14:16 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: ColdOne
Those "union workers" think they are special. They think they are better then us ordinary,mortal workers !
12 posted on 02/18/2011 11:15:09 AM PST by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: ColdOne

Lemme fix that last sentence;
“Organizing For Flatulent American Liberals, now known as OFFAL, the activist organizing wing of the Democratic National Committee is helping keep the pressure on Republican lawmakers who plan to pass the legislation today.”


13 posted on 02/18/2011 11:16:22 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ColdOne

All the plans that obama had for a private army may materialize, his personal Brownshirt Brigade.

Ready to use assets of large transport equipment to hot shot groups of Union sympathetic protesters.

I bet there are suddenly calls for hired help at the employment offices across the nation.


14 posted on 02/18/2011 11:17:02 AM PST by Eye of Unk ("These people are either at your neck or at your knees" A quote by Winston Churchill)
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To: ColdOne

Let’s fight! I’ve been ready.


15 posted on 02/18/2011 11:17:12 AM PST by The Toll
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To: ColdOne

Bring out the gangbusters!


16 posted on 02/18/2011 11:18:50 AM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: ColdOne

There is talk locally in my area of our teachers orchestrating a “sickout” as a show of solidarity with the WI teachers.

If they do it and it spreads, it could cost businesses billions of dollars across the nation.

Not good.


17 posted on 02/18/2011 11:20:08 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: ColdOne
BRING IT ON!

Let the Union spoiled Brats force their minority status down our throats! The public, many of whom are out of work because of the Unions, will handle the situation for us.

18 posted on 02/18/2011 11:21:44 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: MichaelP

Better stash a lot of stuff. Now more than ever, people should have at least their one-week emergency supplies. If you can afford more, do it.


19 posted on 02/18/2011 11:22:20 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: ColdOne

Who among us, for some time, hasn’t had that gut feeling that we were all about to blow. Turns out it is the marxists blowing up.

We NEEDED this, thanks be to God! We need to know who Obama is. He will never be re-elected!

Obama himself has brought forth the greatest mob scene, riot, anarchists rally, yet, with Ground Zero being in Wisconsin.

May America, I pray, see what they have done and who in reality they have elected as President of the United States.

May America see how many in this country are already Marxists.

God be with us as we feebly try to be with God, for the sake of our Republic. We must pray through this, before we think we can do anything else.


20 posted on 02/18/2011 11:27:07 AM PST by RitaOK
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To: ColdOne

There was an episode of Andy Griffith where a spoiled rotten brat moved into town and kept riding his bicycle on the sidewalk. After repeated warnings to the boy and his Dad not to ride on the sidewalk, Andy finally impounded the bicycle and arrested the father.

At the climax of the show, after Andy told the boy his Dad would have to stay in jail if he wanted his bike back, the little boy screamed, “I don’t care! I want my bike!”

Look around folks. The union workers don’t care about everybody else (the taxpayers). They just “want their bike”.


21 posted on 02/18/2011 11:28:11 AM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
There is talk locally in my area of our teachers orchestrating a “sickout” as a show of solidarity with the WI teachers.

I'll see their 'sickout' and raise them a 'lockout'.

Realistically, if 25% of the teachers walked out on sick leave with faked illness, they should be fired. There's enough depth on the bench for the other 75%, along with a few recruits, to carry the load and to do so for a lot less money than the present gang of greedy libs.

22 posted on 02/18/2011 11:33:54 AM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: ColdOne
and strip unions of the power to bargain for higher salaries

I thought this was NOT part of the bill. Could Fox (again) be wrong? Even with BOR's crack research staff?

23 posted on 02/18/2011 11:39:15 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: RitaOK
Who among us, for some time, hasn’t had that gut feeling that we were all about to blow.

I have little patience for libtard perfidy. I prefer to act quickly and forcefully in response to their horsesh*t. I can't tell you how many times I've walked out my front door with my shotgun in hand looking to see if my neighbors were as fed up as I was (e.g. TARP) only to find that nobody else was outraged. (Probably watching American Idol or Jersey Shore.)

There is talk locally in DFW, NE of FTW, of teachers staging a "sickout" as a show of solidarity with WI teachers. If they do, I'm going to have a conniption. It won't be pretty.

24 posted on 02/18/2011 11:40:42 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Prokopton

I don’t recall saleries being tied to the bill either.


25 posted on 02/18/2011 11:44:22 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: ColdOne

GOOD!

This will blow up in their face!


26 posted on 02/18/2011 11:50:44 AM PST by G Larry
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Look, I don’t know what you’re implying here, but cut it out. Stick with your popcorn and watch this terrible BACKFIRE blow back on Obama and every democrat.

These crowds are going to implode on themselves, and they are exploding Obama’s chances for re-election. THEY ARE EXPOSING THEMSELVES, to be exactly what the conservatives said they are. (Beck must be loving this!)

Do we think the Independents, who will elect the next president actually LIKE what they are seeing on FOX NEWS, of Wisconsin anarchy?

We need to figure out a way to support the Wisconsin governor, a way to show solidarity with the efforts of the brave Republicans standing up against the unions.

This may elect Chris Christie single handedly. He has been the Paul Revere leading to what we are all seeing on the tv today, on standing up against the juggular vein of Marxism, the unions—leading a great turning point against the take over of our country.


27 posted on 02/18/2011 12:03:40 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: BuckeyeTexan
There is talk locally in my area of our teachers orchestrating a “sickout” as a show of solidarity with the WI teachers.

I think parents should show their solidarity with the principles of our Nation and pull their children out of the government schools.

28 posted on 02/18/2011 12:04:21 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: ColdOne
For all the past Democrat rhetoric, this is called overturning the results of an election. When elected representatives refuse to do their jobs because they don't like being in the minority, representative government breaks down and elections become meaningless.

-PJ

29 posted on 02/18/2011 12:07:09 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: ColdOne

This has all happened before. Years ago the unions got a little too demanding and violent in their protests. When the dust settled, states across the south had passed right to work laws. I think its time for the Rust Belt to have a go.


30 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:12 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: ColdOne

This has all happened before. Years ago the unions got a little too demanding and violent in their protests. When the dust settled, states across the south had passed right to work laws. I think its time for the Rust Belt to have a go.


31 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:26 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: ColdOne

This has all happened before. Years ago the unions got a little too demanding and violent in their protests. When the dust settled, states across the south had passed right to work laws. I think its time for the Rust Belt to have a go.


32 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:26 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: ColdOne

This has all happened before. Years ago the unions got a little too demanding and violent in their protests. When the dust settled, states across the south had passed right to work laws. I think its time for the Rust Belt to have a go.


33 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:26 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: ColdOne

This has all happened before. Years ago the unions got a little too demanding and violent in their protests. When the dust settled, states across the south had passed right to work laws. I think its time for the Rust Belt to have a go.


34 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:26 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: ColdOne

This has all happened before. Years ago the unions got a little too demanding and violent in their protests. When the dust settled, states across the south had passed right to work laws. I think its time for the Rust Belt to have a go.


35 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:26 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: RitaOK
Look, I don’t know what you’re implying here, but cut it out.

I'm not implying a damn thing. If the teachers in my area stage a "sickout" and the idea spreads, it's going to be a disaster economically. It will cost businesses across the nation billions of dollars if parents have to stay home because school is closed.

36 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:26 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: ColdOne

This has all happened before. Years ago the unions got a little too demanding and violent in their protests. When the dust settled, states across the south had passed right to work laws. I think its time for the Rust Belt to have a go.


37 posted on 02/18/2011 12:08:29 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: ColdOne

Good. Let’s shine the light on these looters and have it out now.

Bring. It. On.


38 posted on 02/18/2011 12:09:38 PM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: El Cid

If only ...


39 posted on 02/18/2011 12:10:50 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: ColdOne

GOVERNMENT UNIONS WILL SEE AMERICA DEAD ON THE FLOOR BEFORE THEY GIVE UP THEIR FAT GOVERNMENT SALARIES AND LOTTERY STYLE TAX PAID GOVERNMENT PENSIONS

Private sector

The private sector is being gang raped by those in government

40 posted on 02/18/2011 12:12:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m not implying a damn thing.”


“ok”, she replied meekly. :)


41 posted on 02/18/2011 12:16:54 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: ColdOne

Double down you lunatics. Please.


42 posted on 02/18/2011 12:17:16 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: ColdOne

There is no labor unrest. There is labor asault on America


43 posted on 02/18/2011 12:20:30 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: ColdOne

>> Labor Unrest

There’s a mouthful.


44 posted on 02/18/2011 12:22:10 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: ColdOne

Yep. This just may be the spark.


45 posted on 02/18/2011 12:23:11 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: bert

Unemployment is near 10%. Hire replacements.


46 posted on 02/18/2011 12:24:09 PM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: sportutegrl

Apparently my computer was stuck in an infinite loop.


47 posted on 02/18/2011 12:26:08 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: ColdOne

if 6 or 8 states vote on such measures all at once I don’t think the unions have enough rent-a-mob or enough buses


48 posted on 02/18/2011 12:36:17 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RitaOK

I apologize. I didn’t mean to be nasty.


49 posted on 02/18/2011 12:41:19 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I apologize. I didn’t mean to be nasty.


You weren’t. The frustrations are the same, about Mach 10, for all of us, but, gee, thanks, for the gallantry. %;)


50 posted on 02/18/2011 12:47:26 PM PST by RitaOK
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