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California congresswoman talks of own abortion
Associated Press ^ | Feb. 18, 2011 | KEVIN FREKING

Posted on 02/18/2011 3:26:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON (AP) -- After stunning colleagues by recalling that she once had an abortion, Democratic Rep. Jackie Speier of California made clear Friday that the procedure was not something she welcomed and was done because the baby was not going to survive.

Speier, first elected in 2008, took to the House floor on Thursday evening during a debate over stripping funding to Planned Parenthood.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; california; jackiespeier; plannedunparenthood; proabortion; speier

1 posted on 02/18/2011 3:26:40 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The baby was not going to survive, well she was right about that.


2 posted on 02/18/2011 3:28:14 PM PST by svcw (God in His own time not ours)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Nobody is going to stop you from killing the baby, AMERICANS JUST DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR IT! MORON!


3 posted on 02/18/2011 3:29:30 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It was disgusting hearing this murderer use such a vile euphemism as “I lost a baby” to refer to the slaughter of her child, as if it was a miscarriage. No, you didn’t “lose” your baby. You murdered your baby you contemptable creature! And don’t think you pull at our heartstrings referring to it as “I lost my baby.” You’re just enraging people who respect the sanctity of life trying to compare the completely voluntary act of abortion to the involuntary tragedy of miscarriage. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

And by the way, no one is preventing you and other sluts like you from getting an abortion. You can still murder all the baby’s you want. It just won’t be with taxpayer funding going to Planned Infanticide to help you do it.


4 posted on 02/18/2011 3:30:04 PM PST by MissesBush
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To: svcw

Thinking the same thing. Also if it wasn’t going to survive anyway, what was the point of killing the baby?


5 posted on 02/18/2011 3:33:50 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It wasn’t her abortion, it was her baby’s.


6 posted on 02/18/2011 3:34:52 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Once again the republicans missed a chance because they can’t think on their feet. All that had to be said was “I’m sorry for you loss. Did the taxpayers pay for it?”


7 posted on 02/18/2011 3:36:45 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a SECOND party.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This killer holds herself out to be a Roman Catholic.


8 posted on 02/18/2011 3:37:18 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

From Wikipedia:

Speier approves legal abortion. When she took the National Political Awareness Test in 2002, she answered, “Abortions should always be legally available.”[20] The organization NARAL Pro-Choice America rated Jackie Speier as 100% on interest group ratings because she supported the choice of abortion in her voting for legislation.[21] Also, in 2008 the Planned Parenthood Organization gave Jackie a 100% on her actions regarding Abortion.[20] In a speech on the House floor on February 17, 2011, Speier proclaimed that she herself had undergone an abortion.[22]

Wiki also says that she is “Catholic.” Her parents named her after Jackie Kennedy.


9 posted on 02/18/2011 3:41:01 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

After reading what she went through, that wasn’t an abortion. It was a miscarriage. The baby had to be removed. I’ve had 3 miscarriages. One in which my body never expelled the baby, so I had to have the baby removed. It had been dead several weeks. She’s trying to invoke sympathy to use for abortion. Just like they use rape, incest and the life of the mother. Which is about 3% of all abortions. Anyone who knows anything about miscarriages will tell you that’s what she had. She didn’t have an abortion. It’s just stupid. They called my first miscarriage a missed abortion. Don’t know why they call it that.


10 posted on 02/18/2011 3:43:31 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MissesBush
And that's the ball game!!!
11 posted on 02/18/2011 3:45:09 PM PST by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What BS. These past weeks we’ve al read about the crimes committed in the abortion mill in PA, I think, where “doctors” and staff severed the spines of living children with sissors. Abortion is murder, duh.


12 posted on 02/18/2011 3:45:34 PM PST by Floribama
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To: MsLady
Having several myself, the ones before twelve weeks were called spontaneous abortions after twelve weeks plus one day were called miscarriages.
Regardless they were babies, who I still grieve for.
The way Speire described the event it did sound like a miscarriage, she also sounds confused about what happened.
13 posted on 02/18/2011 3:49:35 PM PST by svcw (God in His own time not ours)
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To: MsLady

Actually they used to call a miscarriage “a spontaneous abortion”


14 posted on 02/18/2011 3:53:48 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: MsLady

Sorry to hear of your lost children...


15 posted on 02/18/2011 3:55:20 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Floribama

She was named after Jackie Kennedy? Let’s see: if she’s 60 years old then she would have been born in 1950-thereabouts. Jackie Kennedy became 1st lady in 1960-probably unknown b4 that. Unless her parents knew Jackie at the time I think they should have named her after Hillary.


16 posted on 02/18/2011 3:55:30 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh, I’d purely love to see a congressperson talk about her own abortion. What that actually was was her having her own child aborted, which is not precisely the same thing.


17 posted on 02/18/2011 3:56:30 PM PST by RichInOC ("Mom! [fweet!] Yo, Mom! You're not wolfin' down jalapenos again, are ya?")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m not buying it. If she had truly “lost” a baby, she would be outraged at the millions of women who so cavalierly have theirs sucked down a sink for no treason except convenience. While we pay for it.


18 posted on 02/18/2011 3:57:21 PM PST by T Minus Four ("If Mormonism were a cult, I would know it and I would not be in it")
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To: MsLady

A “missed abortion”?? That is very strange.


19 posted on 02/18/2011 4:01:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php for FR backup site!)
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To: Fido969

Ugh. Great. Anyone know who’s parish she attends?


20 posted on 02/18/2011 4:08:56 PM PST by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
She's a democrat.

She's lying.


21 posted on 02/18/2011 4:09:52 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: Fido969
It wasn’t her abortion, it was her baby’s.

Funny how people view death....the victim is usually marginalized while the bystander makes it all about them.

22 posted on 02/18/2011 4:10:13 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

LOL - I was born in 1944, and have often been asked if I was named after Jackie Kennedy. I always reply, “When I was born, nobody had ever HEARD of Jackie Kennedy”!


23 posted on 02/18/2011 4:30:32 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: MsLady

“After reading what she went through, that wasn’t an abortion...”

The way she described how the baby slipped from the uterus into the vagina, it sounds like a miscarriage. Unless, the baby was yanked from the uterus then it would be an abortion. Personally, I think she is doing some truth twisting here (usually called lying) to support Planned Parenthood.


24 posted on 02/18/2011 4:45:25 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Talk about cheap f*ing theatrics-- this sociopathic skank needs a drano enema..
25 posted on 02/18/2011 4:57:28 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: svcw
she also sounds confused about what happened,

You can take that to the bank.

26 posted on 02/18/2011 5:00:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: FlingWingFlyer
AMERICANS JUST DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR IT!

It has nothing to do with "Americans" not wanting to pay for it, but everything to do with the fact that God said "Thous Shalt Not Commit Murder". Please get a clue.

27 posted on 02/18/2011 5:04:07 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Actually (per that same Wiki article) she took Jacqueline as her confirmation name (which would have been around 1962), then adopted Jackie as her ‘called by’ name. Her given name was “Karen Lorraine.”


28 posted on 02/18/2011 5:10:43 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Soothesayer9
I've got "a clue". Apparently, it is you who do not. Until we can get the SCOTUS to overturn Roe vs. Wade, infanticide will remain "legal" in this ****hole. However, taxpayers like myself don't want to pay for it. Those two bimbos on the SCOTUS with their "compelling life stories" can pay for it.

Have a nice evening.

29 posted on 02/18/2011 5:11:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Tennessee Nana
The medical term for miscarriage is still "spontaneous abortion." Medically, the term "abortion" simply means the termination of a pregnancy when the baby is expelled (or removed) from the uterus, usually following the baby's death. "Spontaneous" means that it just happened, without any apparent cause. A "missed abortion" is when the baby has died but the body for whatever reason did not expel it. In both cases, the baby died a natural death. Sometimes a procedure has to be done to remove the baby, to prevent harm to the mother, but the procedure is not what most of us consider an "abortion" because it is not the killing of a live baby, it's the removal of one that has died.

What most of us call an abortion is, medically, an "elective abortion."

In the case of miscarriages, those terms are used up until about 22 weeks.

30 posted on 02/18/2011 5:23:07 PM PST by susannah59
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To: MsLady

Because all miscarriages in medical terms are abotions the different is between spontanious and surgical the first being a natural one the later not.Her baby was not dead it was just not developing right and she was told they did not think it would survive but it was not already dead.


31 posted on 02/18/2011 5:23:26 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: MsLady

Because all miscarriages in medical terms are abortions the different is between spontaneous and surgical the first being a natural one the later not.Her baby was not dead it was just not developing right and she was told they did not think it would survive but it was not already dead.


32 posted on 02/18/2011 5:24:28 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Tennessee Nana

God was gracious and merciful enough to give me a vision of my 3 babies, one day while I was praying in the mid 90’s. It gave me a lot of peace, comfort and it broke the grieving that I had suffered with for so many years. I knew they were in heaven but, to actually see them there was a great comfort and such a blessing. God is good all the time.


33 posted on 02/18/2011 5:31:41 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: GeronL

Someone just explained to me what that means. A missed abortion simply means that what should have naturally occurred didn’t —missed.


34 posted on 02/18/2011 5:34:01 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: momtothree

I totally agree. It was like what the docs called my miscarriage. They called it a missed abortion. Which simply means my body never miscarried my dead baby naturally, the doctors had to go in and take it. I carried my baby like that for almost 3 months. Ironically the doctor said the reason he didn’t do this earlier is because it’s safer for a woman to naturally miscarry then for the doctor to have to go in and take it.


35 posted on 02/18/2011 5:37:31 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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36 posted on 02/18/2011 5:41:01 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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Planned Parenthood needs to disband. The party is over. Idiots and worse. God is watching.


37 posted on 02/18/2011 11:08:33 PM PST by NoRedTape
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Does “Planned Parenthood” not feel the shame of heavy karma? It’s coming. They magnetized it.


38 posted on 02/18/2011 11:10:03 PM PST by NoRedTape
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