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Why all the sudden disclaiming and piling on "birthers" by O'Reilly, Hannity, Boortz?? (vanity)

Posted on 02/19/2011 10:58:58 AM PST by cycle of discernment

And this sudden warfare against those that 'ask that which shall not be asked', is without any new information or evidence.

It is almost as if the 'order' has come down to squash any conversation--and the talking heads, legislators and radio yaks are being directed to systematically work to discredit and ridicule as 'crazy' those that rightfully wonder what in the h*** in going on with this BC cover-up crap?

Is this some last gasp preemptive damage control prior to Corsi's expose' book due out in May, "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

Do you suppose a hush mandate has come down from 'on high' (like the CIA) that exposing the 'truth" is a threat to our national security?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barrysoetoro; certifigate; eligibiity; msm; naturalborncitizen; thebiglie
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1 posted on 02/19/2011 10:59:01 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Obama needs to be impeached, tried for treason and brought to justice for the harm he has intentionally caused America.


2 posted on 02/19/2011 11:01:10 AM PST by thethirddegree (Islam is a vile, barbaric, perverted, depraved,seditious cult invented by a murdering pedophile)
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To: cycle of discernment

The CIA currently appears to be toothless as far as providing intel to the US.


3 posted on 02/19/2011 11:01:16 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: cycle of discernment

The book’s on pre-order at Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Birth-Certificate-Eligible-President/dp/1936488299/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1298141760&sr=1-4


4 posted on 02/19/2011 11:01:31 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: cycle of discernment

I hope it is not something like that, national security.

One thing to consider is everyone sees how the media lamblasts and denigrates anyone who questions 0dumbo’s lack of BC not to mention all the other hinky gaps.
So perhaps the people we would want to dive into this simply don’t want the crap they know they’d get.

I am encouraged by the number of states who have already passed laws requiring a presidential candidate to produce a BC


5 posted on 02/19/2011 11:02:24 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: cycle of discernment

Never trust TV people.

Beck won’t be far behind. WAIT & SEE.


6 posted on 02/19/2011 11:02:53 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge, MA grad student. Any potential conservative Christian FReepmail-FRiends out there?)
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To: cycle of discernment; All

Jack Cashill’s book, which also delves into conflicting details of his past, is out now

http://www.amazon.com/Deconstructing-Obama-Americas-Postmodern-President/dp/1451611110/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1298141858&sr=1-1


7 posted on 02/19/2011 11:02:55 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: thethirddegree

I suspect they are, to a one, afraid to be associated with World Net Daily, which in the case of at least O’Reilly, was a singularly powerful fuel for their propulsion to stardom.


8 posted on 02/19/2011 11:04:10 AM PST by golux
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Beck won’t be far behind with what?

In the past, he’s sat with O’Reilly on his show while they ridiculed “birthers”.

You think he will actually take the issue on?


9 posted on 02/19/2011 11:04:59 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Almost like a dying rabid animal using it’s last full breath to let out a blood curdling scream of anger just prior to going totally limp.


10 posted on 02/19/2011 11:05:13 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: cycle of discernment

I noticed that too.. somehow the “birthers” are the enemy of the Republican party ...


11 posted on 02/19/2011 11:06:17 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: cycle of discernment

They’re upset because they didn’t come up with it first; Hannity keeps on about his Freedom Tours, O’Realy is just into himself, and Boortz is a big Libertarian.


12 posted on 02/19/2011 11:07:07 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: cycle of discernment
I don't know, but I'll be interested to read about some of the theories other people have about this.

The dam may well not be able to hold back the water any longer, and that stuff hitting the fan could be imminent.

13 posted on 02/19/2011 11:07:35 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher)
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To: cycle of discernment

With O’Reilly, it’s payback. Part of the deal to get the Superbowl interview with Obama was to go easy on him.

Weeks later, it’s all O’Reilly talks about, even though no hardball questions were asked of Ozo. O’Reilly is hoping to get another interview with Obama to push up his ratings, so he isn’t going to jeopardize that.


14 posted on 02/19/2011 11:08:30 AM PST by oldbill
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To: STARWISE

I just finished that book today. It is great. I am now absolutely convinced that Obama did not personally write either one of the books that bear his name. Ayers wrote the first one and that boy Favreau wrote the second one. We should expect to see lots of diversions right now. Obama’s whole life story is a great big lie. (IMO)


15 posted on 02/19/2011 11:09:08 AM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: RWGinger

“I am encouraged by the number of states who have already passed laws requiring a presidential candidate to produce a BC”

Those states are more than likely states Obama lost last time out. Obama could just cede those states and concede the electoral vote rather than show his BC.

And what would that say about the guy if he would rather keep his BC secret than put his name on the ballot of those states demanding BC proof ?

But, you are right, it is a disgrace that states do not exercise this basic requisite of determining eligibility, and that laws to that effect have to be passed.


16 posted on 02/19/2011 11:10:02 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: cycle of discernment
There are many gate keepers of O’s background including closing down any discussion. This just adds to the lack of trust. It confirms the need to demand transparency, and laws to prove eligibility of candidates in 2012.
17 posted on 02/19/2011 11:10:08 AM PST by opentalk
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To: cycle of discernment
I never really cared for Boortz, Hannity or O'Reilly. They've all come across as pretty shallow, and I'm truly disappointed in Beck.

Rush has tweaked the BC issue and given his profile that's probably been the best way to approach it; I've never heard him ridicule "birthers." Savage, Bill Cunningham and Rusty Humphries have really pulled their share of the weight and then some on this issue, and have never been afraid to ask, "Why won't he just show the d@mn thing?"

18 posted on 02/19/2011 11:10:28 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: cycle of discernment

OK, so they won’t deal with his birth. Will they deal with the missing paper trail for the entire remainder of his life? School in Indonesia, passports, college applications and financial records, grades etc.?

If not, why not?


19 posted on 02/19/2011 11:11:55 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: cycle of discernment
Right OK. I don't watch Fox - it's only there so conservatives think that everything is OK.

You see my point though. They're playing as if Beck's this great guy, when in fact he's just another BOR.

The one time I saw that show, every other statement was something like "I've got a crazy show for you today"/"this is crazy"
20 posted on 02/19/2011 11:13:45 AM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge, MA grad student. Any potential conservative Christian FReepmail-FRiends out there?)
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To: cycle of discernment

Or maybe its a sly way to keep it in the news without being accused of being a nut.

Who would have ever thought we would see the day when Chris Mathews on MSNBC would hold up a copy of a long form birth certificate to show the difference between that and what Obama released.

Who would have ever thought that the NYTimes, (after pundit after pundit after pundit said that Obama “already released his birth certificate”) would come out and admit he did no such thing and backed up Mathews point.

Getting the MSM to move from “he already released it” to “no he did not, here is what an original long form birth certificate looks like” was a major achievement of the “birthers”.

The big thing the MSM are all hanging onto now to immediately pooh-pooh any questions is the birth announcements in those 2 Hawaiian newspapers. The challenge for “birthers” is to come up with (and publicize beyond fringe blogs) a US citizen’s birth announcement in those same papers who was actually born in another country.

IMHO, shooting down the MSM’s birth announcement defense is the next large step that must be accomplished for more people to take this seriously.


21 posted on 02/19/2011 11:15:19 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: oldbill
With O’Reilly, it’s payback. Part of the deal to get the Superbowl interview with Obama was to go easy on him.

Weeks later, it’s all O’Reilly talks about, even though no hardball questions were asked of Ozo. O’Reilly is hoping to get another interview with Obama to push up his ratings, so he isn’t going to jeopardize that.

You've nailed. Boycott O'Reilly. He is a sell-out.


22 posted on 02/19/2011 11:17:09 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: STARWISE
I think we need to chill on this matter because we do not want this all to come down on Obummer now. Right now the Rats would have time to put someone New and fairly clean(for a Democrat) in there to replace him.

Think of all the constitutional problems that can jump out at us because of every bill he signed, and every single minor thing that keeps the Government running without chaos that he has signed.

It is very scary what this Kenyan born British Subject man Child has so far destroyed, but cooler heads have to prevail and in due time.

23 posted on 02/19/2011 11:18:03 AM PST by samantha (Sarah has our back,and we sure have hers.. America the Beautiful...)
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To: cycle of discernment

Even though it is becoming quite obvious that Barry was never eligible for the presidency, saying so is beneath the feigned dignity of our media whores and political pop stars. ...They will be the ones with egg on their face when the truth finally comes out, not the people who have expressed legitimate concerns about the constitutionality of Barry’s presidency.


24 posted on 02/19/2011 11:20:40 AM PST by pallis
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To: RWGinger

“I am encouraged by the number of states who have already passed laws requiring a presidential candidate to produce a BC
“ .... I am unaware of any state that has passed such a law. Last I heard, there were about a dozen that introduced legislation, but none had passed as of yet. If I am incorrect, please advise. (Link, please)


25 posted on 02/19/2011 11:22:53 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: cycle of discernment

Bush II was just awarded the Medal of Freedom by Obama. They’re buds. Either you’re with’em or agin’ them.

YeeHaw!


26 posted on 02/19/2011 11:25:27 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Everything you need to know is known unknowns)
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To: cycle of discernment

I am a birther.

Want to end the birther movement? Show me the Kenyan’s birth certificate. Simple.


27 posted on 02/19/2011 11:26:26 AM PST by y6162
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To: cycle of discernment

The Dumbocrats and Valerie Jarrett are scared to death over this issue leading to the run up to 2012. Just like crooks, they are trying to get all their opponents dirty along with them by pushing them to sign on to the criminal cover up. The more they can get to state that they know Obama was born in Hawaii, the fewer there will be in a position to later raise the issue. The BC wild card creates shear desperation over whether Obama could get tagged just before the 2012 elections when it would be too late to get someone else on the ticket. There are a number of libs who know about this vulnerability and it is driving them crazy. When you are sitting on a secret of this type, you have no way of knowing whether your opponent is holding back with the proofs until the last minute to destroy you.


28 posted on 02/19/2011 11:30:45 AM PST by iontheball
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To: RWGinger
I am encouraged by the number of states who have already passed laws requiring a presidential candidate to produce a BC

Sorry, don't think you are correct in asserting this. I have been watching this closely and I don't believe any state has passed such a law. They have been proposed in many, and have failed to move out of committee in all that have got that far. I'd say it's a longshot than any state will manage to get this done. Not sure why, should be a no-brainer!

I'd love to be proven wrong, but so far it's just been preliminaries. Realistically it can probably only pass in a state with strong GOP/Tea Party majority in House and Senate and a GOP Governor. And many GOP governors, looking at a future POTUS run, probably won't sign such a law as they won't want to align the entire Obama-supporting media against them.

So, run the states through that filter and you see it's just not going to happen. I know it failed in Arizona, which I considered the top possibility.

29 posted on 02/19/2011 11:32:06 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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Let me recommend the excelent new book by Jack Cashill: Deconstructing Obama. It is a truly excellent book, written by a great writer, who slowly painstakingly goes through the steps on his journey to understanding who Obama really is, and how much of "the narrative" about him is a fabrication.

Every Freeper interested in the fraud that has taken place needs to read this book. Consider it a pre-quil to the upcoming Corsi book.

31 posted on 02/19/2011 11:38:54 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: cycle of discernment

All it takes is one Alexander Butterfield, Jeb McGruder or even a John Dean to blow the BirtherGate scandal of Barry’s Kenyan birth sky high.[Think a special Senate BirtherGate Committee with Bob Bauer as the first witness with the FBI having a genuine copy of Barry’s Kenyan Birth Certificate.
Even Nixon couldn’t get the CIA to ‘turn off’ the FBI with respect to the Watergate burglary.]

This, in conjunction with a March 4, 2011 unanimous United States Supreme Court decision 7-0 [with Sotomayer and Kagan recusing themselves] the High Court ruling that the Barry/Biden Democratic Party ticket did NOT QUALIFY for the Office of the Presidency or Vice-Presidency of the United States in the 2008 Presidential Election due to false statements made knowingly and willingly under oath, namely, that one Barrack Hussein Obama II perjured himself on an Arizona Presidential Election Candidate Nomination Paper signed by Obama on November 30, 2007 which stated Obama was a natural born citizen of the United States of America when in fact he was NOT.

Barry and Biden resign the Office of the Presidency and the Office of the Vice-Presidency of the United States. Speaker of the House of Representatives John Boehner upon his resignation as Speaker and from the House, acts as President [i.e. Acting President].

No Presidential Oath is administered.

Acting President Boehner nominates Condoleezza Rice to serve as the new Vice-President of the United States subject to Congressional confirmation.

Film at 11.


32 posted on 02/19/2011 11:39:00 AM PST by bigoil
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To: STARWISE
I am a fan of the Jimi Hendrix as the baby-daddy Cashill theory...

Was Obama's Hendrix Reference Freudian?

33 posted on 02/19/2011 11:41:49 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: SvenMagnussen

The Medal of Freedom went to Bush I, not II. I don’t think it’s uncommon to give to a former POTUS with GHWB’s extensive record of public service. I wish the Bush Family weren’t so friendly with Clinton and Obama, but that’s the way they are.


34 posted on 02/19/2011 11:42:55 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Ted Baxter doesn’t even know he is considered a joke by both sides.


35 posted on 02/19/2011 11:46:22 AM PST by scooby321
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To: Tex-Con-Man
You know, if Obama had a great big afro and a guitar, I could totally see the resemblance.
36 posted on 02/19/2011 11:46:56 AM PST by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: shooter223

He outright admitted it declaring that he is a “Citizen of the World.”

To be so, there would have to be a World Government.

This man has severe mental problems beginning with his birth illegitimacy and lack of a clear ethnic identity. Hence his gravitation to the Mohammedan idea that race does not matter - a truly false assumption in Mohammedan.

To compensate for his inferiority complex, he corrupts all that is good with the intention of bringing everyone who is more accomplished (America as a whole) down to his level.

He is not deserving of any honor of office due to all the fraud that will become apparent. Any superiority that he shows to the public is a front act.

He knows the truth. We know the truth. One day all the fools and freeloaders that voted for him will know the truth.


37 posted on 02/19/2011 11:47:33 AM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: cycle of discernment

I have said it before that I think this is part of BO’s plan to keep a segement of the population distracted from what he is really doing. He may very well be not born here which would disqualify him from holding the office. But it has to be proven. However his current actions to date should be enough to have him go down in a humiliating defeat in 2012.


38 posted on 02/19/2011 11:47:59 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: Jack Black

I think you are correct that no state has passed such a law. (Post 25) I also agree with you in wondering why. I was kinda thinking Texas might do so. It would only take one. If he refused to provide proof to just one state, the whole country would wonder why.


39 posted on 02/19/2011 11:49:51 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: cycle of discernment; LucyT; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...

Ping..................

They are running scared!


40 posted on 02/19/2011 11:51:46 AM PST by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: shooter223
Just do a search on “Obama + Sukarno + CIA” and you might have an answer as to why there are no records showing up.
Ask yourself, Who can create or eliminate a trail?
41 posted on 02/19/2011 11:55:27 AM PST by tbird-james
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To: RWGinger

As far as I know, no state has passed a law requiring a BC to be shown in order to be placed on the ballot. We’re working on it in Nebraska, with a committee hearing scheduled for March 10th. But the chair of the committee is most probably opposed to the whole idea because it would jeopardize Obama’s re-election.

The one radio interview that I heard regarding the issue was followed by a lot of disinformation. I normally respect the opinions of Roger Olson, Scott Voorhees, Lucy Chapman, and Gary Saddlemeyer. Roger was on track but misinformed on the NBC issue, and Voorhees was TOTALLY out to lunch.

I sent an e-mail to the Morning Show to let them know some facts. Asked them to e-mail me back so I would know they got my e-mail; they didn’t. It’s the same response I got from Voorhees a different time when I e-mailed him after he railed on “birthers” and gave totally wrong “facts”.

They’re a Fox station and may well have been told by the higher-ups that they can’t deal fairly with the issue. Fox was one of the companies that was threatened in mid-October 2008 with FCC annihilation if they allowed anybody on-air to discuss the eligibility issue.

What it says to me is that we the people are entirely on our own. People that have been trustworthy on other issues are not necessarily free to be trustworthy on this one. That being the case, I think that even at the state level, the politicians fear the media too much to go against them. I’m still going to push at the state level, but I’m beginning to think that the only way we will EVER get anything done on this is when we bypass the media altogether and go directly to the people who don’t care what the media says about them.

I’m thinking what we need to push for in every state that has any sense at all among the populace is a simple ballot initiative that would grant legal standing (complete with subpoena power) to any registered voter who challenges the eligibility of any candidate whose name is on the state ballot.

The only issue that puts on the table is whether it is anybody’s business whether a candidate is eligible, whether voters should have the ability to find out whether a candidate is eligible. The courts have consistently said it is none of our stinkin’ business. If the law says it is our business, then it is and the courts have to abide by it.

So this kind of initiative would totally be about giving the people the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances - the ability to hold government accountable.

I think this battle is going to come down to that level because of the treasonous media. They have all politicians scared of them. Only we the people are free to buck the media crap - which we have done all along, as they ridiculed but more and more people are being informed through websites that have documentation.

We absolutely MUST NOT think that the issue is taken care of. It is not, and the Obama/Soros thugs may well have done another round of threats to the media in order to bring on this onslaught. Right after Abercrombie’s statements to Mike Evans were on Drudge, Rush, etc.... the media went into full CYA mode, totally ignoring what had just been revealed - Abercrombie saying they have no BC for Obama in Hawaii. Unbelievable that this could come out and within days the media is attacking those who question whether Obama has a BC in HI as crazy, as if that revelation had never happened.

Obviously SOMETHING got to the media again, to try to do damage control on Abercrombie’s revelations. Nobody in the world should have any questions remaining as to how far up Obama’s rear end the so-called “mainstream media” is - including Fox. Anybody in the media who not only DROPPED the stunning revelations from Abercrombie but actually went on the attack against “birthers” after that revelation is obviously either anti-American themselves or threatened into acting just like somebody anti-American.

That’s what we’re up against. It’s crunch time for we the people.


42 posted on 02/19/2011 11:56:20 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: ReverendJames

I listened to Hannity’s radio program yesterday for the first time in a long while. The guy is so annoying. I don’t know why Levin doesn’t count him a back-bencher. He can’t debate callers, he just interrupts. When he is not doing that he is telling you how humble and/or non-materialist he is. I can’t take him seriously.


43 posted on 02/19/2011 11:56:51 AM PST by chickenlips (Karl Rove- the repugnant RINO , striking fear in donuts everywhere)
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To: cycle of discernment
This question was posed by George Stephanopoulos to Michelle Bachmann:

You know, a sizable number of GOP primary voters still are questioning President Obama’s faith and citizenship. Can you just state very clearly that President Obama is a Christian and he is a citizen of the United States?"

Bachmann: "I think we should take the president at his word . . . You know what I focus on today, today is the two-year anniversary of the stimulus program where we spent a trillion dollars to make sure that unemployment wouldn’t go above eight percent. That’s what I’m worried about because the people in the 6th district of Minnesota are very concerned about job creation."

I think most of the talking heads want to keep the focus on what can be proven, and not on what is impossible to prove without that birth certificate.

If the states adopt rules that candidates must provide birth certificates to be on any ballot, you will see the birther issue resolved quickly.

44 posted on 02/19/2011 11:59:24 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: cycle of discernment

It’ll be used as a reason to impose martial law and shut down the internet.


45 posted on 02/19/2011 11:59:35 AM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: cycle of discernment

It’ll be used as a reason to impose martial law and shut down the internet.


46 posted on 02/19/2011 11:59:39 AM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: icwhatudo; cycle of discernment
Or maybe its a sly way to keep it in the news without being accused of being a nut.

From another thread:

"There is no silver buried here."

47 posted on 02/19/2011 12:01:50 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Surrounded_too

I just hope that once the truth does come out, he doesn’t skate. What would be the appropriate charges? Treason? Probably not provable in court. Impersonating a govt. official seems kinda weak. Must be something in between.


48 posted on 02/19/2011 12:01:53 PM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Jack Black
many GOP governors, looking at a future POTUS run, probably won't sign such a law as they won't want to align the entire Obama-supporting media against them.

The entire communist media will align against them anyway. You just have to be a Republican/Conservative running against 0h0m0llah to trigger the normal foaming-at-the-mouth media wrath.

Of course if 0b0z0 runs. I don't believe he'll dare!

49 posted on 02/19/2011 12:03:21 PM PST by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: nolongerademocrat

yes, he’s a manufactured manchurian candidate. With whos ever behind him and with CIA help, nothing will ever be revealed until he accomplishes his mission.


50 posted on 02/19/2011 12:04:13 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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