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Montana House votes to nullify Endangered Species Act
ap ^ | February 19, 2011

Posted on 02/19/2011 6:56:54 PM PST by george76

The Montana House has overwhelmingly endorsed a plan to disregard the federal law protecting endangered and threatened species. Republicans enthused by Gov. Brian Schweitzer's recent tough talk on wolves led a 61-39 vote Saturday to nullify the federal Endangered Species Act in Montana.

Tea party politics in the Legislature have spawned increasing belief in an 18th-century doctrine that purported to give states the ultimate say in constitutional matters...

(Excerpt) Read more at billingsgazette.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: 10a; 10thamendment; animalrights; ar; epa; esa; madison; marbury; marburyvmadison; statesrights
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1 posted on 02/19/2011 6:56:56 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

This is going to be fun to watch. The Enviro - Nutties are going to scream.


2 posted on 02/19/2011 6:59:34 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: george76
I sure will be nice to see states giving real push back on the federal regulations.
3 posted on 02/19/2011 7:00:45 PM PST by BRL
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To: jazusamo; Flycatcher; tubebender; Carry_Okie; LucyT; Candor7; Seadog Bytes; editor-surveyor; ...

an 18th-century doctrine that purported to give states the ultimate say in constitutional matters...


4 posted on 02/19/2011 7:01:22 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SandRat

Next, they should declare Zer0 a non-natural American.


5 posted on 02/19/2011 7:01:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: george76

The doctrine is only obscure because journalists and most Americans are historically illiterate. Jefferson and Madison were quite clear that nullification was part of the deal....part of the checks and balances. Up until the War Between the States the New England states and others resorted to nullification (and claimed the right to secede).


6 posted on 02/19/2011 7:02:09 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: george76

I’m not trying to hijack this thread but did anyone else watch that show (Nat Geo?) last night about the three coyotes stalking and killing that female folk singer up in Nova Scotia? That was some scary stuff. We all might want to dump that goofy “endangered species” crap.


7 posted on 02/19/2011 7:03:52 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: george76

I can smell fresh air.... it’s coming from every direction and it’s coming fast.

WE WON!!!!!


8 posted on 02/19/2011 7:05:38 PM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: george76

“Tea party politics in the Legislature have spawned increasing belief in an 18th-century doctrine that purported to give states the ultimate say in constitutional matters”

Hey, AP, try reading the Constitution for once! Start with the 10th Amendment!

(AP= “A#$%^&* Progressives”.....mutter, mutter, mutter....)


9 posted on 02/19/2011 7:05:44 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: george76

Endangered species, immigration, health care, gun control, union busting — many states are just choosing to ignore the federal government and go their own way. That’s how it’s supposed to be. But Obama be hatin’ it.


10 posted on 02/19/2011 7:07:32 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The world is aflame with revolution. The year 2011 will be like 1848. Be not afraid.)
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To: george76

Now they need to nullify the spotted owl designation.

Pray for America


11 posted on 02/19/2011 7:08:10 PM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: george76
...belief in an 18th-century doctrine...

At least they got the century right. The nullification doctrine dates to the time of the adoption of the constitution and was not invented by southerners to protect slavery as is often asserted.

12 posted on 02/19/2011 7:09:09 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

LOL ping!


13 posted on 02/19/2011 7:09:55 PM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: BwanaNdege

I had the same thought. Next the AP will be disparaging conservatives for “valuing the contents of a primitive, unjust ancient document known as the ‘U.S. Constitution.’”


14 posted on 02/19/2011 7:12:38 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Thanking God for many blessings :-))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

too many people have a Disney World view of wildlife


15 posted on 02/19/2011 7:16:56 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Ping!


16 posted on 02/19/2011 7:17:26 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I agree about dumping the Endangered Species Act.

However, it does not cover coyotes. They are no more endangered than are Opossums, Rabbits, Armadillos or Kudzu.


17 posted on 02/19/2011 7:17:59 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: george76
Damn, the states just keep rolling out the punches one right after the other, if this keeps up we might actually take this country back

This is also proof that the time and effort spent on the state and local levels of the elections last year were well spent. The Federal government maybe a Leviathan, but the states are not.

18 posted on 02/19/2011 7:19:17 PM PST by KC_Lion (America is on the Brink of War with its self, and no one seams to notice or care)
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To: george76

Apropos of my posting a couple days ago about MT and wolves, here’s our new GOP governor in Wyoming on the issue:

http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_be59f6cc-baf7-50b9-b0da-45a1cb3682ae.html


19 posted on 02/19/2011 7:21:21 PM PST by NVDave
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To: george76
Hehehehe

I am sincerely loving this 10th Amendment resurgence!

20 posted on 02/19/2011 7:23:10 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: george76

Yes. I have a cousin who is among them. She thinks that wolves are pretty and, therefore, cannot do any harm to anyone.


21 posted on 02/19/2011 7:23:11 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: george76
Now this is the type of civil disobedience I can support.

There must be something good in the water up there. Montana's neighbor -- Idaho -- also became the first state to officially "nullify" Obamacare.

Way to go, Northwest!

Thanks for the ping!

22 posted on 02/19/2011 7:25:03 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: george76
Tea party politics in the Legislature have spawned increasing belief in an 18th-century doctrine that purported to give states the ultimate say in constitutional matters...


23 posted on 02/19/2011 7:26:50 PM PST by jimjohn
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To: george76

Scientists say they can now use DNA to make a Woolly Mammoth.

No species can go extinct.


24 posted on 02/19/2011 7:29:18 PM PST by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama. Then try him for treason.)
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To: george76

Yea...Hear Hear!!!


25 posted on 02/19/2011 7:31:30 PM PST by tubebender (The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in Eureka...)
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To: Flycatcher

Marbury v. Madison


26 posted on 02/19/2011 7:38:48 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Army Air Corps
Thanks AAC! For additional discussion of this issue, a PREVIOUS THREAD on FR.
27 posted on 02/19/2011 7:47:22 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have only two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!!!)
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To: george76

It seems there are many that are getting fed up with enviro nazis, some judges on the federal bench that support them, leftist unions that represent both private and public employees, etc.

It also seems that those fed up people are going to give it their best shot in taking our country back.


28 posted on 02/19/2011 7:48:05 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: george76

Now if California just ignored the little fishes and opened up the Central Valley to irrigation again.

California dreamin’.


29 posted on 02/19/2011 7:52:40 PM PST by lurk
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I loved the one that showcased some idiot that was living amongst the bears photographing them. This moron convinced his girlfriend to live with him in this environment.

They both ended up as bear crap!


30 posted on 02/19/2011 8:11:56 PM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: 23 Everest

Saw that. She wasn’t very bright to allow him to talk her into doing camping out with the grizzlies. There is a reason they call them animals.


31 posted on 02/19/2011 8:15:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: george76

the drive by liberal media can’t concentrate on everybody at once. this action in MT is just one result of their cover-up of so many things their progressive politician friends have been doing to this country. normal people are just pissed off (if i may speak for conservatives in an aggregate way). too much consolidation in the newspaper industry and news media has led to what basically amounts to official propaganda in the mainstream press.

our country has so many problems i can’t even begin to name them. and so much of those problems come from the media refusing to tell the truth to the people. and people feeling intimidated to speak out against it.

this post is rambling and incoherent. sorry. :)


32 posted on 02/19/2011 8:16:53 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: Danae

“The 10th Amendment Movement is an effort to push back against unconstitutional federal laws and regulations on a state level. The principle is known as “nullification,” and was advised by many prominent founders.”

Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/spl/10th-amendment-movement.html

Info on history and more. Interesting.

God bless America.


33 posted on 02/19/2011 8:20:12 PM PST by capecodder
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To: Army Air Corps

Yes, and someone posted to me a few days back that dogs would not kill and eat a person. Sure!!!!


34 posted on 02/19/2011 8:32:47 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: NVDave

hey Dave...your new guy is a piece of federalist crap isn’t he?

I saw that story too and shook my head.

Your old guy, the Dem, he was more conservative than this punk and he had a pair too.

What a letdown.


35 posted on 02/19/2011 8:38:47 PM PST by dblup
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To: george76

When we visit our land in Montana, we always get an earful about wolves from the local ranchers. They are just beside themselves about losing their calves and sheep to these predators. A little bit west, in Bozeman, we were told people are afraid to let their dogs and kids play outside because of the wolves. Next summer, they may be selling wolf skins at the craft fairs.


36 posted on 02/19/2011 9:07:58 PM PST by Montanabound
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To: 23 Everest

I didn’t “love” it. I was horrified by the results of the delusions of the idiot that thought that the bears were his “friends”.

That he ended up as bear food was terrible enough, but that his GF also ended up as part of the total of 30 lbs of recognizable human remains (other than what was inside the two bears the rangers had to kill) was the real tragedy.

To make light of the huge error in judgement that led to the deaths of two PEOPLE is beneath contempt.

He was an idiot, no doubt.

She was a fool to believe him, no doubt.

To celebrate and laugh at their huge mistake is unutterbly disgusting.


37 posted on 02/19/2011 10:52:34 PM PST by Don W (I wish stupidity was painful for the stupid, rather than for the rest of us.)
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To: achilles2000
The true question therefore is whether there be a constitutional right in a single state to nullify a law of the U.S. We have seen the absurdity of such a claim in its naked and suicidal form.

James Madison

To view the doctrine in its true character, it must be recollected that it asserts, a right in a single State, to stop the execution of a Federal law, altho’ in effect stopping the law everywhere, until a Convention of the States could be brought about by a process requiring an uncertain time; and finally in the Convention when formed a vote of 7 States, if in favor of the veto, to give it a prevalence over the vast majority of 17 States. For this preposterous & anarchical pretension there is not a shadow of countenance in the Constitn.

James Madison

It is remarkable how closely the nullifiers who make the name of Mr. Jefferson the pedestal for their colossal heresy, shut their eyes and lips, whenever his authority is ever so clearly and emphatically against them. You have noticed what he says in his letters to Monroe & Carrington Pages 43 & 203, vol. 2,1 with respect to the powers of the old Congress to coerce delinquent States, and his reasons for preferring for the purpose a naval to a military force; and moreover that it was not necessary to find a right to coerce in the Federal Articles, that being inherent in the nature of a compact. It is high time that the claim to secede at will should be put down by the public opinion; and I shall be glad to see the task commenced by one who understands the subject.

James Madison

38 posted on 02/19/2011 11:40:30 PM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: Huck
It would seem that Mr. Madison did not agree with the above listed smoke blowers.
39 posted on 02/20/2011 1:19:33 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..

If you’d like to be on or off this Upper Midwest/outdoors/rural list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


40 posted on 02/20/2011 5:37:04 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Don W

Don, spare me.

My wife of 23 years is dying from tumors at the base of her skull. That is tragic and of no making of her own. She has struggled for the past 11 years. We have exhausted all known treatment and appear to be close to the end.

The two bleeding heart fools romping in the woods with ANIMALS deserve everything they got and I laugh at fools.


41 posted on 02/20/2011 7:23:25 AM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I’m not trying to hijack this thread but did anyone else watch that show (Nat Geo?) last night about the three coyotes stalking and killing that female folk singer up in Nova Scotia?

If it was the one I'm thinking of that went from Nova Scotia to Orange County, CA, it was an Animal Planet show. My brother was the California biologist discussing coyotes.

42 posted on 02/20/2011 7:24:29 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (If every person were like Sarah Palin, this world would be a peaceful, beautiful world to live in.)
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To: Don W
PS Don, your tagline says it all for those two. I bet it was painful and terrifying as well.
43 posted on 02/20/2011 7:27:33 AM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

No kidding. There were two different coyote experts. I was telling my wife yesterday how great the show was because they had some experts who knew what they were talking about. Tell him that this FReeper said he did an outstanding job. Great show.


44 posted on 02/20/2011 7:28:29 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: BwanaNdege

I sometimes think if coyotes had opposable thumbs they would eventually take over the world. I may be wrong about the opposable thumbs thing, but I’m probably right about them eventually taking over the world. Based on what I’ve seen, anyway.


45 posted on 02/20/2011 8:32:35 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Timmy Snackwell was his name, the friendly bears that ate him is his fame.
46 posted on 02/20/2011 8:38:20 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

LOL!


47 posted on 02/20/2011 8:40:53 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Endangered species, immigration, health care, gun control, union busting — many states are just choosing to ignore the federal government and go their own way. That’s how it’s supposed to be. But Obama be hatin’ it.

Montana is 2500 miles and a world away from Washington DC. Why should they be taking orders from a semi-Kenyan, semi-Muslim idiot and his people?

48 posted on 02/20/2011 8:45:14 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: george76

Next, let’s bring back paint that lasts, quality oil based paint with, OH NO, lead in it.


49 posted on 02/20/2011 8:51:12 AM PST by wizr (Keep the Faith! Even when it gets tough! Nothing else will do.)
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To: george76

I suspect and trust we will see much more of state’s nullifying the totalitarian attempts by the federal government to control the populace. Thanks for taking the lead, Montana. Well done.

JoMa


50 posted on 02/20/2011 10:28:43 AM PST by joma89
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