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State budget fights fire up unions; Obama involved (Wisconsin to Lay off Thousands!)
Times of India ^ | 2/20/11

Posted on 02/19/2011 7:37:26 PM PST by Libloather

State budget fights fire up unions; Obama involved
AP, Feb 20, 2011, 06.53am IST

WASHINGTON: Organized labor is trying to re-energize in the United States and take advantage of the growing backlash from the anti-union sentiment in Wisconsin and more than a dozen other states.

And President Barack Obama and his political machine are offering tactical support, eager to repair strained relations with some union leaders upset over his recent overtures to business.

The potent combination has helped fan the huge protests in Wisconsin against a measure that would strip collective bargaining rights from state workers. The alliance also is sending a warning to other states that are considering the same tactic.

"I think it's a clear message," said AFL-CIO political director Karen Ackerman. "If you take on middle-class people and try to solve the budget crises on their backs, there's a price to pay. Many thousands of people will be energized to fight back."

For Obama, stepping into a confrontation with a governor has its risks. The president is in a struggle of his own to tame spending, and siding with unions may cast him as a partisan even as he talks about setting a new tone in Washington.

For the labor movement, which suffered a bitter split in 2005, the brash moves by Republicans such as Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker have brought unions together in a way unthinkable a few years ago.

Nearly every major union leader, both public and private sector, has united behind an ambitious $30 million plan to stop anti-labor measures in Wisconsin and 10 other states.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofindia.indiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: articleivsection4; budget; obama; unions; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
Wisconsin to Lay off Thousands if Dems do Not Return to Work
1 posted on 02/19/2011 7:37:28 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Do it, Obomba, DO IT!


2 posted on 02/19/2011 7:40:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (I'm not a great man....I just believe in great ideas! Ronald Reagan)
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To: Libloather

Governor Walker and the Republicans absolutely MUST NOT CAVE to the greedy scumbags.


3 posted on 02/19/2011 7:41:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Why Wisconsin matters for President Obama
4 posted on 02/19/2011 7:41:54 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

IMO, Zero’s siding with Union thugs and going against the American people will backfire on his RAT party and his re-election.


5 posted on 02/19/2011 7:42:18 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Libloather

If making over 100 thousand a year is “middle class”, then I must be one of the “hardworking poor”.


6 posted on 02/19/2011 7:43:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican." - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Their miscalculation is that they’ve been getting away with this crap for decades, during most of which the taxpayers have been prosperous and apathetic.

The taxpayer is completely tapped out now. And, after almost three years of recession, he’s in no mood to be jerked around anymore.


7 posted on 02/19/2011 7:47:57 PM PST by kevao (I)
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To: Libloather
Getting major money from unions is NOT a valid reason for a President to place his ugly face into a State issue involving bringing fiscal sanity and security ( in a State desparate to balance its budget ).

For a President to inflict his power of office and incite people for whatever purpose, the money, the votes, WHATEVER, is just plain wrong.

uhbama is sick. And he is abusing his office. No wonder people cannot stand him. He is wrong to do what he is doing and if he is as smart as some say, then he has to know this. Shame on him.

For sure, he does not know the job of a President. Nor does he have the integrity to lead a nation. He sees those who resent their tax dollars being used to prop up and gift unions who have blown their own money on political clout as being selfish. You know-as deserving seats in the back of the bus.

Uhbama is pitiful.

He has a wife that goes off skiing, yet ANOTHER vacation, when so many are suffering and he, himself, makes it clear everyday that he is out of control and unable to make leadership decisions, including those that demand he shut up and and keep his dirty tentacles at home.

8 posted on 02/19/2011 7:49:05 PM PST by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Libloather
Getting major money from unions is NOT a valid reason for a President to place his ugly face into a State issue involving bringing fiscal sanity and security ( in a State desparate to balance its budget ).

For a President to inflict his power of office and incite people for whatever purpose, the money, the votes, WHATEVER, is just plain wrong.

uhbama is sick. And he is abusing his office. No wonder people cannot stand him. He is wrong to do what he is doing and if he is as smart as some say, then he has to know this. Shame on him.

For sure, he does not know the job of a President. Nor does he have the integrity to lead a nation. He sees those who resent their tax dollars being used to prop up and gift unions who have blown their own money on political clout as being selfish. You know-as deserving seats in the back of the bus.

Uhbama is pitiful.

He has a wife that goes off skiing, yet ANOTHER vacation, when so many are suffering and he, himself, makes it clear everyday that he is out of control and unable to make leadership decisions, including those that demand he shut up and and keep his dirty tentacles at home.

9 posted on 02/19/2011 7:49:13 PM PST by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Libloather
Besides lobbying and public demonstrations, the unions are considering ballot initiatives, costly legal fights and even launching recalls against newly elected Republican lawmakers. They are planning to seek help from like-minded progressive groups, immigration activists, environmentalists and religious leaders. They expect momentum from the protests to spill into the 2012 election cycle, when they can try to punish Republicans they accuse of overreaching. Got more info in this article than our own media.
10 posted on 02/19/2011 7:49:53 PM PST by ColdOne (2012 the END of an ERROR!)
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To: Libloather

I would not be surprised to see Obama hop on Air Force One and pay Gov. Walker a visit on Monday, since it’s a furlough day and the legislature won’t meet until Tuesday.


11 posted on 02/19/2011 7:59:22 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: Libloather

Go check out my comment at your link......


12 posted on 02/19/2011 8:02:30 PM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Republic

And I thought Clinton was a punk... Obama the PUNK, eat your heart out Bill...


13 posted on 02/19/2011 8:05:44 PM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Republic

The can’t hide who he really is. Looks like a fool.


14 posted on 02/19/2011 8:08:19 PM PST by opentalk
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To: bigbob

If Zero did that it would be political suicide.....


15 posted on 02/19/2011 8:12:31 PM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Republic

We can thank Obama for killing affirmative action, it obviously is a failure.


16 posted on 02/19/2011 8:15:36 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: rolling_stone

lol! And Michelle has helped to seal the deal.


17 posted on 02/19/2011 8:19:00 PM PST by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Libloather

I’m all for compromise.

Pass the law AND lay off thousands.


18 posted on 02/19/2011 8:21:31 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Red Badger
Go check out my comment at your link......

Well, Reg Badger, it looks like you have a fan!

19 posted on 02/19/2011 8:23:00 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: BuddhaBrown
Pass the law AND lay off thousands.

A natural born negotiator. Can't agree more. Start with the union leaders.

20 posted on 02/19/2011 8:28:21 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Republic

Exactly. This guy is a jackass and a jerk. Openly undermining a sitting governor. Nothing but a lowlife gutter thug.


21 posted on 02/19/2011 8:28:37 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Libloather

Reg?

Must be short for Regal...


22 posted on 02/19/2011 8:38:41 PM PST by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name. Want to have fun? Google your friend's names.....)
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To: Libloather

Bit by bit, the greedy government unions at the state and federal level are finding out what the rest of the populations who pays their bloated salaries and perks are feeling. IMO, a 30% rollback of their salaries and benefits would be a start.

The joy ride is over for now,folks. You’ll have to get out and push if you want to keep the ship of state moving.


23 posted on 02/19/2011 8:40:38 PM PST by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

the $100K is “total compensation” but your basic point
holds.


24 posted on 02/19/2011 9:01:08 PM PST by cycjec
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To: Libloather

“Start with the union leaders.”

Yes, and everyone who shows up with one of those phony doctor slips gets handed a pink slip.

Then put high res photos of each weekday’s crowd onto the Guv’s website. On the leftist-hand side of each photo will be a long, scrolling list of those who’ve called in sick that day. Then, by executive decree, any student who is out of school because of AWOL faculty can log-in to the site and play “Wheres Waldo’s ‘Sick’ Teacher?”. Puzzle solvers get a “A” in civics for the quarter.

The “new normal” in attrition.


25 posted on 02/19/2011 9:06:09 PM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: DustyMoment
Blogcritics.org is projecting 5,500-6,000 state union workers will be laid off if the AWOL Donkey Senator and union rent-a-mob activities continue. Time to raise the ante. If the AWOL Senators do not return to the Senate and union mob action does not cease by Tuesday, 22 February 2011, 6,000 state union workers will be permanently laid off. Every day the Dem Senators are AWOL or unions rampage at the Capitol will cost the jobs of 1,000 additional union workers. Layoffs will continue until the AWOL Senators and union thugs “get it”. Dismissed or laid off workers will not be rehired by the state.

Effective immediately, The Governor shall order that all Republican Representatives and Senators will be provided WI State Police bodyguards. All funds used to pay these police officers standard and overtime pay will be paid from the salaries of the AWOL Senators and their office budgets. Any and all transportation, fuel, food, beverages or lodging purchased using WI state-issued credit cards will not be reimbursed to the AWOL Senators or their staffs for the period of this illegal attempt to hamstring and delay necessary budget reforms.

26 posted on 02/19/2011 9:21:05 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01

You’re off to a good start. Unfortunately, as we know, some liberal judge will declare all of this to be unconstitutional and strike it all down.

After all, it doesn’t matter what the people who are PAYING for all of this want, it’s just what the left wants . . . . . . and we KNOW what the left wants.


27 posted on 02/20/2011 10:33:04 AM PST by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: MasterGunner01

Many, if not most of the actual state workers know this and are at work.

Teachers are all employees of local districts, which are facing terrible budget problems due to the failure of the democrats to take any action to solve the fundamental problems of school funding and teacher compensation in the state.

For example, I looked up the wife of a friend on a teacher salary database. She has been getting 12% raises each of the past two years. $6500 raise from 09 to 10 and a similar raise from 08 to 09. During that time, I had my pay cut, then was laid off and spent months looking for a new job.

Her husband is on facebook complaining about all the sacrifices teachers like his wife have had to make. It’s all I can do to not tell him to ESAD.


28 posted on 02/20/2011 10:47:04 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: DustyMoment

The the Gov and WI government can ignore the judge.

That NEEDS to start happening. Leftist judges make decisions that have nothing to do with the Constitution or state Constitutions but in fact subvert them. Leftists judges’ illegal decisions should be ignored. Who died and appointed them God and King and Emperor?


29 posted on 02/20/2011 12:41:34 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Libloather
I would start with the teachers who skipped school to protest and left their classrooms understaffed.
30 posted on 02/20/2011 12:47:03 PM PST by kcvl
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To: little jeremiah
The Judge has rendered his decision. Now, let him ENFORCE it. Good luck with that, Judgie Poo.

Better, the legislature could impeach and remove this scum sucker for trying to usurp his authority.

31 posted on 02/20/2011 3:34:49 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: bigbob
I would not be surprised to see Obama hop on Air Force One and pay Gov. Walker a visit on Monday, since it’s a furlough day and the legislature won’t meet until Tuesday.

I would.

32 posted on 02/20/2011 3:42:30 PM PST by K-Stater
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To: MasterGunner01

Can you tell the details about the judge?? I hope Walker has the guts to stand up to the scum sucker!


33 posted on 02/20/2011 4:13:54 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
The the Gov and WI government can ignore the judge. That NEEDS to start happening. Leftist judges make decisions that have nothing to do with the Constitution or state Constitutions but in fact subvert them. Leftists judges’ illegal decisions should be ignored. Who died and appointed them God and King and Emperor?

Idealism is great, I like to indulge in it myself. But, the conept of subverting the Constitution and corrupting the law began occurring in Congress long before leftist judges.

34 posted on 02/20/2011 10:52:08 PM PST by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Of course, it’s a disease that’s been going on for decades and decades. But the patient is now on the death bed practically.


35 posted on 02/20/2011 11:22:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
But the patient is now on the death bed practically.

The death of liberalism has been proclaimed many times, and yet . . . . the patient still LIVES!!!

Liberalism will still be with us as long as there is one person who believes that all wealth is controlled by the government, that rights flow from the government, that we are our brother's keeper and "it takes a village". Eliminate those concepts and you begin to eliminate liberalism. Then you have to start on the flawed philosophy of Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, Mao . . . . . . .

36 posted on 02/21/2011 6:58:02 AM PST by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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